You're right you did make a mistake. you're mistake is the reason the board probably doesn't work and that's why you should work something out with the guy. Instead you pretend you did nothing wrong and are not responsible for nothing.
Your help rating seller
- Thread starter Token420
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You're right you did make a mistake. you're mistake is the reason the board probably doesn't work and that's why you should work something out with the guy. Instead you pretend you did nothing wrong and are not responsible for nothing.
Knowing both sides of the story... my opinion stands. You should work something out with the guy. If you didn't sell an incomplete (therefore non-working) PCB in place of a working and complete PCB, there would have been no chance the guy MAY have stuck the chip in wrong.
If you were worried he may stick the chip in wrong, once you realized you sent an incomplete PCB set you could have offered to take the whole thing back or send the chip with the understanding that the PCB is now AS-IS being it wasn't what you thought you were sending in the first place.
Now as for threatening to sue... that was a huge douchebag maneuver in of itself...
If you were worried he may stick the chip in wrong, once you realized you sent an incomplete PCB set you could have offered to take the whole thing back or send the chip with the understanding that the PCB is now AS-IS being it wasn't what you thought you were sending in the first place.
Now as for threatening to sue... that was a huge douchebag maneuver in of itself...
acejedi
New member
Me pulling the chip out did not break or damage the board. No pins were bent and I sent the chip secured in a styrofoam block, if I wanted to sell stuff on ebay and didn't give a shit I wouldn't even have sent the chip or gave a crap. I worked with ken when he didn't paypal me right away, I didn't sell it out from under him.remember from the time I sent the chip to the time he actually tested the board was at least a month. What if the board got damaged that way, nobody knows what happened once the board arrived. I'm not blaming anybody, ill I'm saying is I pulled the board working yrs ago, I sent it it doesn't work, I never implied refund if it didn't once it left me I was done.I've bought boards that had no way of being tested that were pulled working and didn't work I didn't go back to the seller and complain I just said ok it was a gamble and I'm on my own,got them fixed and moved on. I'm over this, I'm not refunding the money sorry I don't feel I did anything wrong. So hate me, don't sell to me, I don't sell much on the boards anyways so whatever. I'm done and am over petty crap like this. I'm going outside to enjoy the sunshine.
Joe(acejedi)
Joe(acejedi)
skibobo61
Active member
showthread.php?t=115653
Ill bet Wodnad is feeling pretty lucky to not have to go through this. I love slac's comment "Wodnad: I've seen some boards around the $100 mark on ebay. But I guess buying here at a premium comes with a guarantee that it will work. Sorry if I'm stealing your thread. Free bump anyway."
Wish I knew how to link threads.
Ill bet Wodnad is feeling pretty lucky to not have to go through this. I love slac's comment "Wodnad: I've seen some boards around the $100 mark on ebay. But I guess buying here at a premium comes with a guarantee that it will work. Sorry if I'm stealing your thread. Free bump anyway."
Wish I knew how to link threads.
The post that got my attention:
http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?p=1011902#post1011902
The first emails:
Date: Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 5:48 PM
Joe,
I just picked up an Outrun cab with no PCB so I am interested in that
and maybe some other parts. I have not had a chance to go over it yet
to find out what all it needs. What other parts do you have?
Ken (Token420)
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Date: Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 6:20 PM
I have everything ken! Complete CP with shaker motor working, pedal assembly, wiring etc etc turbo bezal etc etc.
Joe
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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Date: Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 6:30 PM
Joe,
How much for the PCB shipped to Macon,Georgia? I will probably start
with that and then see what else I will need.
Ken
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Date: Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 6:32 PM
I quoted you 150.00 including shipping if you want me to dig it out and snap a pic I can do that also
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Date: Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 6:51 PM
How about $120 shipped?
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Date: Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM
Ill do 130.00 shipped best I can do
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Date: Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 7:00 PM
Sold! Can you wait until Monday for payment?
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Date: Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 7:04 PM
No problem its not going anywhere its yours! I have to go up into my attic to get it. Its in a static bag and was pulled 100% working. I would rather have a check than Paypal as that way I avoid paypal fees.
Just send it to and make check payable to
xxxxx
I will need your shipping info also.
Thanks again
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Date: Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 7:07 PM
I can do a Paypal gift, that way I get the fee. It is not much so I don't mind.
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Date: Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 7:08 PM
Ok paypal is my email
Joe
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Date: Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 7:17 PM
Ok, will send it on Monday. Thanks! Once I get it I will let you know
what elseI may need.
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Date: Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 7:42 PM
Ok
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Date: Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:39 PM
Joe,
I promised you a payment for the Outrun PCB today but my paycheck has
not gone through yet an may not until midnight eastern. I will send
you a paypal as soon as I get paid.
Ken
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Date: Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:48 PM
Ok no worries Ken, its yours I had 2 other people contact me via KLOV PM for it but I told them it was pending payment and promised to you. Thanks for keeping in contact. Joe
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Date: Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:47 PM
Joe,
I forgot to put my address on the paypal. Please send to:
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Date: Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:49 PM
I was just gonna email u about that, I'm just waiting on the funds to transfer into my bank account from my PayPal account and it will ship out, I've been busy at work but its all wrapped and ready to go. Joe
http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?p=1011902#post1011902
The first emails:
Date: Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 5:48 PM
Joe,
I just picked up an Outrun cab with no PCB so I am interested in that
and maybe some other parts. I have not had a chance to go over it yet
to find out what all it needs. What other parts do you have?
Ken (Token420)
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Date: Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 6:20 PM
I have everything ken! Complete CP with shaker motor working, pedal assembly, wiring etc etc turbo bezal etc etc.
Joe
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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Date: Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 6:30 PM
Joe,
How much for the PCB shipped to Macon,Georgia? I will probably start
with that and then see what else I will need.
Ken
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Date: Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 6:32 PM
I quoted you 150.00 including shipping if you want me to dig it out and snap a pic I can do that also
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Date: Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 6:51 PM
How about $120 shipped?
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Date: Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM
Ill do 130.00 shipped best I can do
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Date: Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 7:00 PM
Sold! Can you wait until Monday for payment?
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Date: Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 7:04 PM
No problem its not going anywhere its yours! I have to go up into my attic to get it. Its in a static bag and was pulled 100% working. I would rather have a check than Paypal as that way I avoid paypal fees.
Just send it to and make check payable to
xxxxx
I will need your shipping info also.
Thanks again
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Date: Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 7:07 PM
I can do a Paypal gift, that way I get the fee. It is not much so I don't mind.
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Date: Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 7:08 PM
Ok paypal is my email
Joe
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Date: Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 7:17 PM
Ok, will send it on Monday. Thanks! Once I get it I will let you know
what elseI may need.
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Date: Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 7:42 PM
Ok
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Date: Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:39 PM
Joe,
I promised you a payment for the Outrun PCB today but my paycheck has
not gone through yet an may not until midnight eastern. I will send
you a paypal as soon as I get paid.
Ken
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Date: Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:48 PM
Ok no worries Ken, its yours I had 2 other people contact me via KLOV PM for it but I told them it was pending payment and promised to you. Thanks for keeping in contact. Joe
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Date: Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:47 PM
Joe,
I forgot to put my address on the paypal. Please send to:
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Date: Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:49 PM
I was just gonna email u about that, I'm just waiting on the funds to transfer into my bank account from my PayPal account and it will ship out, I've been busy at work but its all wrapped and ready to go. Joe
acejedi
New member
Love the pick I'm filling it up right now! Ill PM pic results to you! LOL Kisses I love you too!
Joe(acejedi)
Joe(acejedi)
The rest of the emails up to today:
Date: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 6:51 PM
Hey Ken its Joe the guy that sold you the outrun Pcb, I'm sure you got it by now but I never heard back from you. Did it arrive ok, have you tested it etc?
I wanted to tell you on the main top board there is a long processor chip and next to that a sockted spot for a second processor, in cleaning up around here I found another sega procesor chip in the same box as that outrun boardset was stored in. I don't know if it goes into that empty socket on that boardset? If you fire up that boardset and it works perfect great than don't worry about this chip but if it does nothing when u fire it up its missing this processor and ill send it off to you no charge on shipping as I didn't know it went to that boardset, ill also send u a pic of the chip. Hope to hear back from you soon. Joe
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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Date: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:21 PM
Joe,
Yeah I got the board but did not yet have a chance to test it. Been
loaded down at work and the Outrun cab is at my rental house. I will
try to get to it this weekend. Thanks for letting me know about the
chip.
Ken
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Date: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:25 PM
No problem Ken I got the chip packed in styrofoam and ready to ship to u if its missing and the board doesn't come up. Just keep me posted
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Date: Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 9:16 PM
Joe,
Got the chip in the board but it did not work. My monitor is not
working either so I could not see if anything was showing up but the
sounds were definitely not right. Pulled and reseat the chip and
tested again with the same results and then tested with a newer power
supply. Same results. When I get a chance I will go back with a
working monitor and see what I get. Just wanted to let you know.
Ken
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Date: Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 10:18 PM
That sucks I pulled it out working 100% I'm sorry if it doesn't work but the fix can't be too hard as it was working. Keep me posted! Joe
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Date: Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 10:27 PM
Will do. Just curious, why did you pull the chip out?
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Date: Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 10:28 PM
To count pins for a fellow KLOV member if memory serves me right. Its been a long time.
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Date: Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:24 PM
Joey,
Just an FYI, I have not yet got the board working. I am looking for
someone local with a working Outrun that will let me test it.
Ken
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Date: Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:54 PM
Keep me posted ken, not much I can do on this end but if there is just ask, it really is strange that its not working right as it was working 100% when pulled. Make sure your switcher voltages are correct also.
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Date: Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:03 AM
Joe,
After a month, and a two hour drive one way I finally found someone
"local" with a working Outrun to test the board in and......Fail! The
board does the same thing in their cab as it does it mine, which is
not work. So, what you want to do?
Ken
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Date: Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 2:34 PM
What does it do? You told me u didn't have a monitor, so how can u compare the 2? When u go into test mode do u get bad rom or ram? What image do u get onscreen? Not much I can do, I pulled it working, it sat in a box in my attic then u bought it, I told u all of this before u purchased it there was no way for me to test it. Try to reseat the chips! Have you done that yet? I'm sorry it doesn't work but there is really not much I can do. I sold it to u in as is condition, stored working but unable to test before u bought it, I made u aware of that. Sorry it didn't work out.
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Date: Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 2:19 PM
It just flashes an image momentarily then does nothing, and I did get
a monitor as I am trying to restore a cab. I drove two hours to a guy
that has a working Outrun and we swapped his board with the one you
sold me. It does the same thing in his cab as it does in mine, ie bad
board.
Btw, you did not specify in any message (I have a copy of all PM's &
email) that it was "as is" but you did say "pulled 100% working". Now
you are saying it sat in your attic but obviously you did something to
it after you pulled it because you sent it to me with a missing chip.
There is something you can do if you want. You can offer to refund my money.
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Date: Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 3:31 PM
I told u it was working when pulled and no way for me to test it. I told you I pulled the chip to count pins for a friend of mine long after my outrun was gone and all I had was parts, I even sent u that in a message which I too have every PM and email. I told you it was pulled working but I had no way to test that would translate into AS IS. Boards can go bad just sitting Ken. Rom and Ram can Corrupt over time do some research and u will find this true. Sorry no Refunds on anything I sell, I've bought things that were pulled working and didn't work after years of working and didn't get refunded. Did you seperate the video portion from the two boards and test that seperate? I can't see how the entire board would go bad? It sounds like perhaps you have one component that may have gone bad. Sorry it didn't work out like you expected but these games and parts are old and when u can't test its defently a gamble. Sorry again but that's all I can say, everything I told you was 100% truthful. I even found the chip and sent it too you which a lot of sellers wouldn't have even done and said oh well! I went above and beyond for you.
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Date: Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 4:08 PM
Sorry dude, but what you are saying now is not 100% truthful. Looking
through the PM's, posts, & emails you never said anything about not
being able to test it or it being as-is. Just "pulled 100% working"
and "150.00 complete and shipped".
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Date: Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 5:54 PM
Whatever ken I told u I had just the board and no cab and I pulled it working that's it! I'm done with this. I sent it as Is,with no way to test it, there is nothing more nothing less, I told u about the chip, I was honest, I sent it on my own dollar. It sounds like u didn't check individual boards, processors etc, it sounds like u plugged it in said oh it doesn't work oh well. I don't know what you did when u got it? I don't know if your voltage was set too high on your switcher and u blew something, I don't know if you plugged something in backwards? I pulled it working 100% and u got it and now it doesn't work. NO REFUNDS! Wanna call me a liar go ahead, wanna file a paypal claim go ahead I've got plenty of evidence to prove my case. Wanna go on the boards and slam me go ahead, enough people know me and no I'm legit and my story will stand up! I pulled it working and had no way to test it, that would constitute AS IS! In the Arcade world when you deal with old componets that have no way of being tested you Gamble, I held this board for you as I had 2 other offers and you didn't even pay me when u said you would and I was cool and waited. I went above and beyond what a good seller does. You gambled and lost and now are trying to do whaterver u can to get refunded, life doesn't work like that. If u wanted a guaranteed working board u should have spent another 50-75 dollars from someone who had a cab to test a board in and could have sent u screen shots and video of it working. If a sell a tested working board that's what I do. This board was NOT tested working when sent to you. It was pulled tested and that was yrs ago and I told u this and that I had no way to test it. I have all the emails. I'm sure its something minor and u could get it fixed cheap. I'm done with this subject, its your board. Stop with the harassing emails, continue and this is gonna end up in small claims court with a harassment case against u. I have all your contact info to file a claim against you. Slam my name anywhere and I will, I did nothing wrong and your gamble didn't pay off for whatever reason and now your trying to throw it back on me. Please move on, find someone to fix ur board and enjoy life and stop harassing me.
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Date: Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 5:34 PM
http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=127291&page=2
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Date: Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 6:36 PM
Don't care good luck!
Date: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 6:51 PM
Hey Ken its Joe the guy that sold you the outrun Pcb, I'm sure you got it by now but I never heard back from you. Did it arrive ok, have you tested it etc?
I wanted to tell you on the main top board there is a long processor chip and next to that a sockted spot for a second processor, in cleaning up around here I found another sega procesor chip in the same box as that outrun boardset was stored in. I don't know if it goes into that empty socket on that boardset? If you fire up that boardset and it works perfect great than don't worry about this chip but if it does nothing when u fire it up its missing this processor and ill send it off to you no charge on shipping as I didn't know it went to that boardset, ill also send u a pic of the chip. Hope to hear back from you soon. Joe
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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Date: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:21 PM
Joe,
Yeah I got the board but did not yet have a chance to test it. Been
loaded down at work and the Outrun cab is at my rental house. I will
try to get to it this weekend. Thanks for letting me know about the
chip.
Ken
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Date: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:25 PM
No problem Ken I got the chip packed in styrofoam and ready to ship to u if its missing and the board doesn't come up. Just keep me posted
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Date: Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 9:16 PM
Joe,
Got the chip in the board but it did not work. My monitor is not
working either so I could not see if anything was showing up but the
sounds were definitely not right. Pulled and reseat the chip and
tested again with the same results and then tested with a newer power
supply. Same results. When I get a chance I will go back with a
working monitor and see what I get. Just wanted to let you know.
Ken
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Date: Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 10:18 PM
That sucks I pulled it out working 100% I'm sorry if it doesn't work but the fix can't be too hard as it was working. Keep me posted! Joe
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Date: Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 10:27 PM
Will do. Just curious, why did you pull the chip out?
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Date: Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 10:28 PM
To count pins for a fellow KLOV member if memory serves me right. Its been a long time.
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Date: Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:24 PM
Joey,
Just an FYI, I have not yet got the board working. I am looking for
someone local with a working Outrun that will let me test it.
Ken
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Date: Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:54 PM
Keep me posted ken, not much I can do on this end but if there is just ask, it really is strange that its not working right as it was working 100% when pulled. Make sure your switcher voltages are correct also.
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Date: Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:03 AM
Joe,
After a month, and a two hour drive one way I finally found someone
"local" with a working Outrun to test the board in and......Fail! The
board does the same thing in their cab as it does it mine, which is
not work. So, what you want to do?
Ken
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Date: Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 2:34 PM
What does it do? You told me u didn't have a monitor, so how can u compare the 2? When u go into test mode do u get bad rom or ram? What image do u get onscreen? Not much I can do, I pulled it working, it sat in a box in my attic then u bought it, I told u all of this before u purchased it there was no way for me to test it. Try to reseat the chips! Have you done that yet? I'm sorry it doesn't work but there is really not much I can do. I sold it to u in as is condition, stored working but unable to test before u bought it, I made u aware of that. Sorry it didn't work out.
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Date: Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 2:19 PM
It just flashes an image momentarily then does nothing, and I did get
a monitor as I am trying to restore a cab. I drove two hours to a guy
that has a working Outrun and we swapped his board with the one you
sold me. It does the same thing in his cab as it does in mine, ie bad
board.
Btw, you did not specify in any message (I have a copy of all PM's &
email) that it was "as is" but you did say "pulled 100% working". Now
you are saying it sat in your attic but obviously you did something to
it after you pulled it because you sent it to me with a missing chip.
There is something you can do if you want. You can offer to refund my money.
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Date: Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 3:31 PM
I told u it was working when pulled and no way for me to test it. I told you I pulled the chip to count pins for a friend of mine long after my outrun was gone and all I had was parts, I even sent u that in a message which I too have every PM and email. I told you it was pulled working but I had no way to test that would translate into AS IS. Boards can go bad just sitting Ken. Rom and Ram can Corrupt over time do some research and u will find this true. Sorry no Refunds on anything I sell, I've bought things that were pulled working and didn't work after years of working and didn't get refunded. Did you seperate the video portion from the two boards and test that seperate? I can't see how the entire board would go bad? It sounds like perhaps you have one component that may have gone bad. Sorry it didn't work out like you expected but these games and parts are old and when u can't test its defently a gamble. Sorry again but that's all I can say, everything I told you was 100% truthful. I even found the chip and sent it too you which a lot of sellers wouldn't have even done and said oh well! I went above and beyond for you.
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Date: Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 4:08 PM
Sorry dude, but what you are saying now is not 100% truthful. Looking
through the PM's, posts, & emails you never said anything about not
being able to test it or it being as-is. Just "pulled 100% working"
and "150.00 complete and shipped".
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Date: Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 5:54 PM
Whatever ken I told u I had just the board and no cab and I pulled it working that's it! I'm done with this. I sent it as Is,with no way to test it, there is nothing more nothing less, I told u about the chip, I was honest, I sent it on my own dollar. It sounds like u didn't check individual boards, processors etc, it sounds like u plugged it in said oh it doesn't work oh well. I don't know what you did when u got it? I don't know if your voltage was set too high on your switcher and u blew something, I don't know if you plugged something in backwards? I pulled it working 100% and u got it and now it doesn't work. NO REFUNDS! Wanna call me a liar go ahead, wanna file a paypal claim go ahead I've got plenty of evidence to prove my case. Wanna go on the boards and slam me go ahead, enough people know me and no I'm legit and my story will stand up! I pulled it working and had no way to test it, that would constitute AS IS! In the Arcade world when you deal with old componets that have no way of being tested you Gamble, I held this board for you as I had 2 other offers and you didn't even pay me when u said you would and I was cool and waited. I went above and beyond what a good seller does. You gambled and lost and now are trying to do whaterver u can to get refunded, life doesn't work like that. If u wanted a guaranteed working board u should have spent another 50-75 dollars from someone who had a cab to test a board in and could have sent u screen shots and video of it working. If a sell a tested working board that's what I do. This board was NOT tested working when sent to you. It was pulled tested and that was yrs ago and I told u this and that I had no way to test it. I have all the emails. I'm sure its something minor and u could get it fixed cheap. I'm done with this subject, its your board. Stop with the harassing emails, continue and this is gonna end up in small claims court with a harassment case against u. I have all your contact info to file a claim against you. Slam my name anywhere and I will, I did nothing wrong and your gamble didn't pay off for whatever reason and now your trying to throw it back on me. Please move on, find someone to fix ur board and enjoy life and stop harassing me.
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Date: Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 5:34 PM
http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=127291&page=2
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Date: Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 6:36 PM
Don't care good luck!
If that is all of the communication between the two of you, I would have expected a 100%% working board as well. I am guessing a non working board is about $30, so the price alone should have been enough for him to know you were buying a working board.
Definitely deserves a negative rating. Joe is always friendly until something doesn't happen the way he wanted it to. You can see in the later emails how he responds after that. I figured out who the seller was in your original post before I got to the name, so this is not an uncommon response.
Definitely deserves a negative rating. Joe is always friendly until something doesn't happen the way he wanted it to. You can see in the later emails how he responds after that. I figured out who the seller was in your original post before I got to the name, so this is not an uncommon response.
Well at least you got a sense of humor. now if only you would be a stand up guy and offer to pay for the repair........ come on!
ArcRevival
Well-known member
I think an AWFUL long time went by before the buyer contacted the seller. We are talking months. I could see if the buyer came back the first week or two and said there is a problem but months ? Not Joe's fault it took months to test it.
savit4l8r
Well-known member
It seems to me like there was never a meeting of the minds on the condition of this board in the first place. While the seller certainly never guaranteed it worked, $130 sounds steep for an "untested" board that the buyer assumed worked.
EVB
Well-known member
Looks to me like the mistake was selling an obviously non-working board as tested working sometime in the distant past. Major selling error. Could have sold it as untested and probably would have either not gotten the same $$ or gotten a lot less. Just refund the guy, learn from the shitty experience and move on. By continually talking smack you will just hurt yourself. Seriously... is it really worth it?
Looks like 3 weeks after initial contact is when he first tested it on his non-working monitor cab and indicated it didn't sound right... which was the same day he received the processor Joe sent...
Now, I know how hard it is to find someone with a cab to test things on... so the delay between the initial test when he said it didn't sound right and the test when he was able to find someone with a working cab is certainly acceptable.
Now, I know how hard it is to find someone with a cab to test things on... so the delay between the initial test when he said it didn't sound right and the test when he was able to find someone with a working cab is certainly acceptable.
skibobo61
Active member
He stores the boards in the ATTIC??? Attic Temperatures in this part of California are well over 160F in the summer What the Fu**.
Reading Joe's (acejedi) response you would get that impression and maybe a few other impressions that are not really accurate or truthful but the truth is in the emails.
For example, in his post today he says "so Ken tells me that hes gonna Pay Pal me I think the Next day or Following day and to hold it for him, I do and a few days go by and I recieve no payment"
Truth is we made the deal Sat night at 7 PM, I told him I could pay Mon, Paypal payment was confirmed on Tues morn at 10:21 AM. So I was 10 & a half hours late on payment. I never asked for him to hold it for me, I asked if he could wait for payment. His reply then "No problem its not going anywhere its yours!"
And also today he said "I get a email a month or so later telling me he tested in his cab and it doesnt have a monitor but game sounds dont sound right"
It was actually, 17 days later on Jan 23 that I sent him an email, as soon as I got the missing chip and tested it. Not an AWFUL long time and not a "month or so".
And more from today - "I dont hear anything back for 2 months and today I get a email telling me he drove 2 hours to get it tested it doesnt work and he wants a refund!"
Again, not really truthful or accurate as I did email him on Feb 25th to which he requested that I keep him posted.
And when I emailed him today I did not tell him I wanted a refund. In reply to his comment "I'm sorry it doesn't work but there is really not much I can do" I suggested that "There is something you can do if you want. You can offer to refund my money."
Anyway, up until pondering his misleading explanations I thought this could turn out to be a positive transaction, but it is now definitely getting a negative.
I would not have made an offer for the board if I knew it was pulled years ago, sat it an attic all that time, was missing a chip, and as I found out today, the seller is a liar.
The more I read, the more lies of yours I find, and the more pissed off I get about this whole thing. Let me know where EXACTLY you stated what the board came from and that you had no way to test it. If you told me before some of the things I found out today I would not have offered you anything for the board.
Maybe the next time I am out your way we can meet up for a few drinks, on me. Let me know.
gutsman004
New member
Drama drama drama.....come on. All of this can be worked out,if everyone is willing to do so.
nuckinfuts68
Member
i say give the guy 50% refund minus shipping costs....( $130 minus say $20 for shipping so that leaves $110..... give him $55 )... done, over.
slots
Active member
That was what I was thinking. Three years in the attic in California with a suicide battery.
