WTB - 1942 - Williams - Sideart, Bezel, CPO

[7146aaron]

Art

Good news. I got one side of the side art and the bezel half removed in one piece. No tears or streched spots. And honestly, my fingers hurt a little bit. LOL It is all about the games. When this gets to you, please make the scans available for others.

 

[andykmv]

man on man that is so good! great work!

how is the other piece of side art ? if it tore or stretched during removal, no problem send it anyway!
is the side the same on both sides or are they sort of mirror image ?

i should get them both scanned at the same time as my tp bezel at a commercial graphics joint i think.

and i'll post the files for everyone to access

thanks aaron!

 

[7146aaron]

Side art.

The other side is exactly the same. Not even mirrored. It has about 15% of it missing and some scrapes. I was going to keep that one for myself since it is the same or if yours gets lost in shipping, I will have it scanned and send that to you. It is easy to scan since it is off now. Hope thats ok.

 

[andykmv]

The other side is exactly the same. Not even mirrored. It has about 15% of it missing and some scrapes. I was going to keep that one for myself since it is the same or if yours gets lost in shipping, I will have it scanned and send that to you. It is easy to scan since it is off now. Hope thats ok.

thank aaron thats cool! and a good risk mitigation strategy.

so my williams 1942 obsession is now almost a reality! whoo hoo!

 

[andykmv]

williams conversion kit packaging question...

ok now for the $63 question. does anyone have some photos of or actual examples of the packaging for a williams conversion kit ? not necessarily 1942, could be any williams conversion kit....

 

[Reava]

Well, if a scans available, I'd be prepared to vector the sideart... I couldnt scan my nos ones as they have a premask on. That bit of the cpo will be a bitch tho but would love to at least get a close up look before saying no

I'll scan and vector the control panel extra stickers I have too and the marquee so we can go for a complete "set"... Just hope one day the full cpo and bezel show...

 

[andykmv]

Well, if a scans available, I'd be prepared to vector the sideart... I couldnt scan my nos ones as they have a premask on. .......

cool! 600dpi scan ok for that ?

That bit of the cpo will be a bitch tho but would love to at least get a close up look before saying no .......

zabadozer has offered to scan his CPO - it is on a pacman cp by the look of it so it is mostly there...with the exception of a few mm of the edge, and possibly the lower portion of the CPO that would otherwise wrap around the williams wood control panels

......I'll scan and vector the control panel extra stickers I have too and the marquee so we can go for a complete "set"....

fantastic!

........ Just hope one day the full cpo and bezel show...

if you look back a couple of posts you will see that one half of the bezel artwork is there on 7146aaron's conversion cab kick panel, stuck on horizontally! the news article link referred to above depicts the same artwork mirrored on both sides of the bezel, with the exception of the instructon card area on the RHS of the bezel.

so reproing the full bezel is feasible - just need a suitable instruction card, and instruction card position details/location so we can repro the RHS of the bezel art (otherwise a mirror image of the LHS bezel art) and therefore make a complete bezel image!

this package of artwork is really starting to look achievable!

 

[andykmv]

I picked up a Williams 1942 this weekend. It was a converted Pac Man cabinet.

It has the Williams CPO, Marquee, PCB and Sideart (1 side only).

The CPO has some nice details, but mine is unfortunately cracked at the angle.

Note that the PCB has a Capcom label + Williams label that reads: ("Aeroboto" T.M. Computer Program Copyright 1984 Williams Electronics, Inc.). Maybe "Aeroboto" was Williams original name for the game?

I really like the detail in the sideart. The commentary from the pilot is reminiscent of a vintage comic strip.

is the instruction card on your cpo a stick on item?

 

[andykmv]

I started to reconstruct the cpo artwork from the rough pictures etc that i have and from the above pic of the artwork that we have identified as the LHS of the bezel, and, from my hackings so far, i think the above pic also represents most of the top portion of the CPO! (yes you were right aaron!)

the clincher ? the circles with the three smaller circles in a half moon (bottom edge, 1/4 of the way along from the lh edge) and the angled rectangular plate that crosses under it and the pipe next door such that a triagular bit pokes out on the other side of the neighboring pipe. i'll hack up a comparison pic and circle the relevant bits.
see here: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/n_ZV23j1Xsve7CYLRbvg9nR6VKXLGWMT6YqzdBiACoc?feat=directlink

 

[YellowDog]

Hi Andy,

Just wanted to pass on that there is a Williams 1942 manual for sale on Ebay right now: http://cgi.ebay.com/Williams-Electr...tem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a5bd468a6

It's not mine or I'd have just sent it to you. Let me know if the seller has shipping locked to the US and I'll bid for you or have him ship it to me and I'll reship it to you.

ken

 

[andykmv]

Hi,

The kit did exist. The website owner you got the pic from is a friend of mine and he has some of the bits. He has the marquee and the sideart. He's still looking for the CPO and bezel.

What you are looking for is very very very rare indeed.

Oliver

gidday oliver -i'm having trouble getting to the images on the retrokade site - just wondering if your friend who runs the site would email me copies of the 1942 cab pics? please pm me if he can do...

it was ok back when i posted this thread, for some reason not now! getting a ms vbscript runtime error '800a0009' subscropt out of range '1942' /showpics/imgthumbs/_imgthumbs.asp, line 121 ) (scuse the typos)

 

[andykmv]

Hi Andy,

Just wanted to pass on that there is a Williams 1942 manual for sale on Ebay right now: http://cgi.ebay.com/Williams-Electr...tem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a5bd468a6

It's not mine or I'd have just sent it to you. Let me know if the seller has shipping locked to the US and I'll bid for you or have him ship it to me and I'll reship it to you.

ken

thanks ken! im checking it out now.

 

[andykmv]

The following links are some reconstructions of the Williams 1942 bezel as best as i can reconstruct it.

http://picasaweb.google.com.au/lh/photo/-8ju3qnpCzxlzbWg7wNIQQ?feat=directlink
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/1HNGc0RbZtrFr7-xnnyBHA?feat=directlink

If you want to compare it to the original news article, as posted on the retrokade site, then open the following link and compare it to those two above.

http://www.retrokade.com/temp/1942-williams.jpg

Tell what you think - did i get it right ? do i need to change anything ?

Almost forgot - instruction card sample from zabadozers cpo photo...

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Z25ZldXjWlEB-vaIKuTGjw?feat=directlink

When the artwork arrives in a week or two, i will scan it and construct a much better one that an artist out there can touch up for printing!

Also, is the cab pictured in the article posted at http://www.retrokade.com/temp/1942-williams.jpg a Joust cab or something else ?

 

[andykmv]

The following link is a reconstruction (a WIP) of the Williams 1942 cpo from some good photos and some low res web images.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/EOkzNP1Cg-T2ws0mVhWwjQ?feat=directlink

 

[TheShanMan]

I am buying zabadozer's williams 1942 tomorrow! So keep me in the loop on any work being done for repro artwork, and let me know if there's anything I can do to help!

 

[andykmv]

I am buying zabadozer's williams 1942 tomorrow! So keep me in the loop on any work being done for repro artwork, and let me know if there's anything I can do to help!

zabadozer mentioned that you had purchased it and i was hoping you could scan the CPO. if you look at the wip on the cpo i am at the moment trying to identify the elements of the cpo image so i can pull together a reasonable simile of the cpo - the middle chunk is a challenge but i am getting a good feel for what should be there.

would you be willing the scan the cpo ? ie strip the clear plastic cover, buttons and js off the panel, clean, and scan as is ? (top and front edge) i can use that to fill in/replace the fuzzy/distorted elements of the cpo (ie the section zabadozer had taken the initial photo of).

in the meantime would you be willing to take some good photos of the cp in small sections and make them available so i can continue the cpo wip ?

i will also need measurements of the cpo and elements of the graphics so i can correctly size it. if you could do 2 pics for me to start, one of the top of the cpo from above (whole CP) and one of the front edge (whole edge) i can mark up the measurements i would like to get.

edit: and i forgot to ask: are the instruction card, button surrounds and joystick surround all stick on elements ?

lastly, what do you think of the bezel reconstruction ?

thank you!

 

[andykmv]

I am buying zabadozer's williams 1942 tomorrow! So keep me in the loop on any work being done for repro artwork, and let me know if there's anything I can do to help!

and i just realised that the front edge of your 1942 cpo will actually fill in 90-98% of the missing gap in the middle if the cpo WIP ! (ie the pink fuzzy section)

whoo hoo! that means that about 90% of the whole cpo is available - with 10% is covered up by the instruction, loop, fire, joystick, p1 and p2 stickers! and i can reconstruct some of that quite easily....

 

[TheShanMan]

I'm happy to do all of that. I'm probably just as excited as you are to get repro artwork so I can get it looking as nice as possible - particularly the cpo and bezel.

On a related note, a little research seems to indicate that no schematics were produced for 1942 (I gather the boards from both companies are identical electronically). Is that true? I like to get schematics for all my games so this is disappointing.

 

[andykmv]

Updated CPO WIP

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/lYZOSg3MLPi5sWDp1xgNsQ?feat=directlink

 

[TheShanMan]

Got the Wms 1942 from zabadozer just now. Hooked it up to the monitor in my mousetrap and it appears I have a little work to do beyond just rebuilding the monitor chassis. Sure wish there were schematics for 1942 available (capcom or williams). I'll get it figured out though. This will be fun!