World Cup soccer vs Stargate

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Okay guys, If you can only have 1 which would you pick?

Stargate guy is asking 1700. Looks like it is in reasonably good shape he claims to have fixed it up.

World Cup Soccer is 1200 and about a 8 hour drive each way. But in NICE shape.


What would you do?
 
A bit high on the stargate price I think. Stargate is a fun game, and I enjoy it more than WCS but I hate sport themed pins. ;)
 
Okay guys, If you can only have 1 which would you pick?

Stargate guy is asking 1700. Looks like it is in reasonably good shape he claims to have fixed it up.

World Cup Soccer is 1200 and about a 8 hour drive each way. But in NICE shape.


What would you do?

I've played both. WCS94 extensively and bought one. I've also played SG but no where near as much as WCS94. IMHO these two are just too different pins to say which is better/most fun. They're both affordable.
I will say price wise WCS is reasonable and if not on the cheaper side if it's that nice. SG is over priced by a WHOLE lot. I wouldn't pay more than $1300 for an extremely nice SG.

Most people are quick to say how easy WCS94 is - but I highly disagree. The TV award hole is a complete bitch to hit which starts most modes and ultimately the World Cup (wizard mode). Also, the sling shots are lightning ass fast. If you have a failed shot to the Striker hole (which is kind of difficult as well), the way the RAISED stars buttons are laid out on the pf you have a high chance of a SDTM drain.
I love mine. I think it's very fun. SG is a dark themed pin and in a dark lit room kind of sucks to play.
I also think girls like the soccer theme and boys like the monsters/aliens themes.

My .02
 
Easy isn't a worry for me. I stink! I feel the stargate is overpriced but the guy has dug in his heels. I just sucks because I have been looking all over for a good stargate and one shows up super close But he says it is totally "refurbished" but it still looks dirty and lines in the DMD are out. Really that is your refurbished? lol.
 
I have played both. I own world cup. Stargate is fun, but I enjoy world cup more.

Price for wcs94 seems low.
Price for stargate seems high.
(by a few hundred)

But condition is always key. Unless you know the guy, best to define what "nice" means.

... Altan
 
Easy isn't a worry for me. I stink! I feel the stargate is overpriced but the guy has dug in his heels. I just sucks because I have been looking all over for a good stargate and one shows up super close But he says it is totally "refurbished" but it still looks dirty and lines in the DMD are out. Really that is your refurbished? lol.


Those conditions, I wouldn't pay much over $1000
 
Okay guys, If you can only have 1 which would you pick?

Stargate guy is asking 1700. Looks like it is in reasonably good shape he claims to have fixed it up.

World Cup Soccer is 1200 and about a 8 hour drive each way. But in NICE shape.

What would you do?

For the price I would definitely choose the World Cup Soccer but the drive would kill it for me.

The Stargate sounds high but it really depends on condition, what the guy did to "fix it up" and what kind of work he does. Even on the high end it's probably high. Gottlieb System 3 games don't get a lot of love in general, though Stargate is an exception.
 
WCS is AWESOME. Never played a Stargate, but it better be amazing to have to decide between the two.
 
Nice WCS at $1200 vs. beat Stargate for $1700, no question go with the WCS. If they were priced equally though, I'd go Stargate. Most people have never played a Stargate, or can't get over the Gottlieb 'feel'. But if you can get past those things, you'll find one of the best games of the 90's. Most games have a 'mode' wizard mode or an 'objective' based wizard mode. Like AFM is objective based, and games like Addams Family are mode based. Stargate has BOTH, which makes it (I think), the only game in the 90's that has both. So in addition to the 2 wizard modes + a 3rd mini wizard mode, there's also an jackpot that can be increased through objectives or quartz, 8 different multiballs, varying hurry up awards, multiballs that you can 'add a ball' to, 5 stage combos, etc.

In summary, in terms of rules, it's better than almost every other game in the 90's--and in fact, it might be the best (it has deeper rules than TZ, which most people talk about as having the deepest Williams ruleset). It's a very stop and go game, but when 4 of the 6 modes are multiball, you don't notice it very much. Probably also has the coolest mode start shot of any game outside of Lord of the Rings.

One thing most people don't understand is the 'quartz' aspect of the game. As you acquire 'quartz', you can do all kinds of cool things with it (double the jackpot, extra ball lit, 50 million, acquire the 7th symbol, award super jackpot, etc). So it becomes a strategy to get quartz to get things like the extra ball and double the jackpot.

If you can't tell, I really like the game. :)
 
If I HAD to have a Gottlieb, it would probably be a Stargate.

I have a WCS (well, my father-in-law does) and it's great fun. I wish I had kept it myself. Ours was $1050 and is really nice as well. $1200 is a good price too, I have seen them go $1600 and more.


Chris
 
WCS: seems low in price, but a fun game.

SG: lately the price on this seems right if there is no PF wear and it's in really nice shape. I have been watching SG's for the past year *I really want one* and the cheapest I have found for one with wear only in the ball drops was 1500 and it was an 8 hour drive one way.

Unfortunately SG has a lot of spots that tend to be prone to wear so expect to pay for one without hardly any.
 
WCS ALL THE WAY, classic dmd bally. Lots of fun.

Stargate is a looker, but that's about it imo, gottliebs are not all that fun

Thanks, James
 
Stargate is a looker, but that's about it imo, gottliebs are not all that fun

Sorry you feel that way..... Have you played alot of Gottliebs or is that a generaliziation you made?

If it was the same price I would easily pick Stargate over WCS. But the details you provided, I would go with latter.
 
Just repeating that 1200 for WCS is a pretty good price. It's one of those games that seems to command at least 1500 every time I see it.

Haven't played SG either, but WCS is a fun little game with some cool design ideas. It would help if you were at least a little bit into soccer.
 
I own a WCS94 and it gets lots of love over my Demolition Man when friends come over and hang out in my game room.

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Based on what you have mentioned I would go WCS94 and even if you aren't a fan of sport theme tables WCS94 did an excellent example of theme execution. Also gotta love Popadiuk's designs.
 
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