Williams Defender Players Unite facebook

Can I vent here about Williams getting out of the videogame business just to go into slots. And then dying anyway. That was cool. It annoys me to see replica Williams stuff with Midway branding, despite the fact that both are dead and during the early 80s Williams was arguably the best of the best with Jarvis and co as designers. Hell even pre-Narc I would much rather play Joust 2 than fuckin Spy Hunter 2 jesus.

I'm also going to vent about Midway gambling and losing on PC/Console. Sure they might have been too big for arcades to be sustainable, but shit they died anyway who knows what the landscape would have been like if they gunned it to say 2003 instead of closing up Atari after Dark Legacy.

Shit, Jarvis managed to outlive all three companies. Crazy shit.
I throw up in my mouth every time I see "MIDWAY CLASSIC ARCADE". after Williams bought Midway in 1988 though, they resurrected the brand as a Delaware company and made money off it. someone at the top in WMS decided that Midway's brand had more recognition than Williams, which made zero sense to me, and that's why they rebranded the video game division to Midway and they rolled out the Bally name (under Midway Manufacturing) as an alternate brand in pinball. (sidenote: there's serious pinball people that don't realize that Bally = Williams). about like 1996-1997 or so though I think, WMS had Williams pinball, Midway video games, Bally pinball, and Atari under their umbrella and they started shuffling the IPs between pinball and video... Midway wound up with all the Williams video games (see: Defender, Robotron) and Williams got all the pinball. I don't remember when they spun Midway off as its own thing, but it may have been in 2001 when Happ bought out the coin-op division and Midway became focused entirely on console games. WMS of course went into gaming exclusively by that point with pinball and video gone.

old Midway caught lightning in a bottle twice with Space Invaders and Pac-Man. they repaid Taito and Namco with Gorf, which ripped off both of their IPs, and prostituted Pac-Man out an absurd amount just to cash in on something that didn't even belong to them. that was Midway's entire model, Pac-Man. once Pac-Man stopped being a thing they hit on like Rampage... and what else really? anyone that's sad Midway went under either worked for them or completely missed the point they had nothing outside Pac-Man. Williams had the foresight to drop out and retool video in 1986 once they obliterated the rest of the pinball industry with System 11 and they came back with NARC. Midway in their dying days were still using MCR derivatives. it's honestly sad.

as for Eugene Jarvis, I went to his seminar about Raw Thrills at MGC 2019 and it's pretty epic how they started that company from nothing and have grown it as big as they have. he proceeded to hang out with me and we drank beer the rest of the day. I haven't talked to him in months, I should do so soon.
 
Hi all

The original Williams Defender Players Unite group is very active and only requires that you answer a few simple questions to join, and that you refrain from trash-talking to other members.

It's a worldwide group, and everyone who can abide by the simple rules above is welcome.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/WilliamsDefenderPlayersUnite/
 
New open group just getting started. No childish games. No god complexes
Williams Defenders Players Unite was initially open. It got locked down when a-holes started showing up.
 
Must have been some serious problems. The group was ghosted in search. I tried to become a member. When that failed I started a new open group. In thinking about it before starting the group. I thought that Stargate should be part of the group and not the redheaded stepchild. When the two machines are sitting side by side Stargate would always get my quarters.
 
Must have been some serious problems. The group was ghosted in search. I tried to become a member. When that failed I started a new open group. In thinking about it before starting the group. I thought that Stargate should be part of the group and not the redheaded stepchild. When the two machines are sitting side by side Stargate would always get my quarters.
The emphasis has always been on creating a welcoming environment and on encouraging camaraderie between like-minded individuals. Of course, there's always going to be one or two bad apples that sneak in through the side door. Any problems that arise from these are dealt with quickly and fairly by the small team of admins, who have everyone's best interests at heart.

The group's always been called 'Williams Defender Players Unite' (WDPU), but it's often just referred to as 'Williams Players Unite'. Over the years it's evolved to include the other Vid Kidz games (Stargate, Robotron: 2084 and Blaster), and discussions and points of interest regarding other classic Williams games (Joust, etc.) are also actively encouraged! We're honoured to have many of the best players in the world, not to mention the games' developers, as active members.

As for the 'readheaded stepchild' (I like that! :D), there's a good deal of friendly banter between players who prefer one game over the other (the inclusion of Robotron on the group's cover image is the continuation of a running joke) - though to be fair, most people in the group love everything 'Williams', anyway!

(And everyone knows that ROBOTRON is the best game ever created. ;))

It's great to see that a few of you have joined the group. Enjoy!
 
I'm no longer the ambassador to inviting people to this group. I invited everyone that asked, whether you got it or not isn't my problem.
 
Hi all

The original Williams Defender Players Unite group is very active and only requires that you answer a few simple questions to join, and that you refrain from trash-talking to other members.

It's a worldwide group, and everyone who can abide by the simple rules above is welcome.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/WilliamsDefenderPlayersUnite/

Thanks for the link !!!

After all these years I finally found the hidden group on facebook !!

Isn't NARC the best Williams game ever made ???:D
 
The emphasis has always been on creating a welcoming environment and on encouraging camaraderie between like-minded individuals. Of course, there's always going to be one or two bad apples that sneak in through the side door. Any problems that arise from these are dealt with quickly and fairly by the small team of admins, who have everyone's best interests at heart.

The group's always been called 'Williams Defender Players Unite' (WDPU), but it's often just referred to as 'Williams Players Unite'. Over the years it's evolved to include the other Vid Kidz games (Stargate, Robotron: 2084 and Blaster), and discussions and points of interest regarding other classic Williams games (Joust, etc.) are also actively encouraged! We're honoured to have many of the best players in the world, not to mention the games' developers, as active members.

As for the 'readheaded stepchild' (I like that! :D), there's a good deal of friendly banter between players who prefer one game over the other (the inclusion of Robotron on the group's cover image is the continuation of a running joke) - though to be fair, most people in the group love everything 'Williams', anyway!

(And everyone knows that ROBOTRON is the best game ever created. ;))

It's great to see that a few of you have joined the group. Enjoy!
I bailed on facebook last year but I do miss certain groups and WDPU is absolutely one of them. Plenty of old Williams folks chime in on threads and share some pretty fantastic stuff. And there are some completely ass-kicking players on there. Generally free of the typical facebook bullshit in my experience.
 
Ive cut back my Facebook use this year, but just read that Ken Graham is in hospice care after fighting cancer. (As of Dec 13th) I love the recordings of his Williams talks at conventions.
I hope Ken pulls through, but "hospice care" is not an optimistic term. 😔

 
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Ugh, that's crap news. Thanks for sharing though Rob.
 
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