Why do I have a Deco Boardset in my Midway Burgertime?

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Why do I have a Deco Boardset in my Midway Burgertime?

I finally went to install Matt Osborn's HSS and freeplay ROMs in to my Burgertime boardset. At first I couldn't find ROMs at the sites that Matt's labels named, so I wondered what was wrong with me, going blind? Then I undid the standoffs, flipped the top board over and low and behold I see a big black Deco box. WTF? Was this common? Is mine a hack? How disappointing. Now I have to drop another $30 for the deco roms. Or find someone with a Midway board set who wants to swap me for this deco board. Weird. If anyone knows if Bally/Midway Burgertimes ever came with Deco boards from the factory, let me know.
 
Yes, that is common. The PCB may have "DECO" silkscreened on it as well. That doesn't mean it is running the DECO ROM version (very few are). To know which ROM version it is, take a look at the attract mode. If you see "BALLY MIDWAY" appear then the high score save kit you purchased is correct. If not, I can send you the DECO version of the score save. Or you can switch the entire ROM set over to Bally/Midway (all the boardset variations I've seen are all hardware equivalent, excluding the cassette version of course).

To complicate things a bit more, there is also a fairly rare early Bally/Midway version (not documented in MAME). I've only seen that one a couple times. I've just had those people convert to the newer rev to get the score save working.

http://www.scoresaves.com/BurgerTimeHS.html
 
Yeah it says "Bally Midway" on the title screen. It also says "licensed from Data East" or something. So do I swap you roms Matt? I had no idea I had the Deco version before I ordered. Never even thought to check as I had the Bally Midway cabinet.
 
Yeah it says "Bally Midway" on the title screen. It also says "licensed from Data East" or something. So do I swap you roms Matt? I had no idea I had the Deco version before I ordered. Never even thought to check as I had the Bally Midway cabinet.

Sounds like you have the normal Bally/Midway version, so you should be fine. If you'd like to try it out before you install the NVRAM, you can just swap the two EPROMs in and set dipswitch 8 to ON (that forces a high score table reset on boot, which is necessary if you still have the normal RAM in). The game will have freeplay and should play normally. If it doesn't play correctly then there is a mismatch in the ROM set and we'll have to figure that out. Note: The new default high score table reset values are different from the original... this is normal. There wasn't enough available code space to do anything fancy... so it's a barebones reset that is not terribly pretty. It just gets the job done, and uses score values that are unmistakable (impossible, that is).
If all is well, you can install the NVRAM and start saving those scores. Remember to boot the game once with dip 8 still ON to initialize the high score table properly, then turn dip 8 OFF before booting again.
 
Sounds like you have the normal Bally/Midway version, so you should be fine. If you'd like to try it out before you install the NVRAM, you can just swap the two EPROMs in and set dipswitch 8 to ON (that forces a high score table reset on boot, which is necessary if you still have the normal RAM in). The game will have freeplay and should play normally. If it doesn't play correctly then there is a mismatch in the ROM set and we'll have to figure that out. Note: The new default high score table reset values are different from the original... this is normal. There wasn't enough available code space to do anything fancy... so it's a barebones reset that is not terribly pretty. It just gets the job done, and uses score values that are unmistakable (impossible, that is).
If all is well, you can install the NVRAM and start saving those scores. Remember to boot the game once with dip 8 still ON to initialize the high score table properly, then turn dip 8 OFF before booting again.


You sent me 4 chips. Could you tell me where each installs? The locations on your labels don't correspond with any of my larger rom chips unless I am reading them wrong. I could snap you a pic of my board if it would help.
 
You sent me 4 chips. Could you tell me where each installs? The locations on your labels don't correspond with any of my larger rom chips unless I am reading them wrong. I could snap you a pic of my board if it would help.

I hope I sent you the right thing....
There should be two EPROMs (2732's), for positions 9B and 13B on the top board. Then there is the NVRAM chip which goes in position 14D on the bottom board (next to the CPU pack). Also included is a socket to install at 14D if there isn't one there already. The installation instructions have pictures. If your board is markedly different, please post a pic.
If I sent you something other than stated above please send a pic to me so I can figure it out. :eek:
 
i havent looked at my bump n jump boardset, but in attract mode it says deco bump n jump ...but its a midway cab...
 
I hope I sent you the right thing....
There should be two EPROMs (2732's), for positions 9B and 13B on the top board. Then there is the NVRAM chip which goes in position 14D on the bottom board (next to the CPU pack). Also included is a socket to install at 14D if there isn't one there already. The installation instructions have pictures. If your board is markedly different, please post a pic.
If I sent you something other than stated above please send a pic to me so I can figure it out. :eek:

I will look closer at everything tonight. I do remember seeing a label marked 14D on one of your chips, but I didn't even have a chip-much less a socket at that location that I could find. I may have been drunk when I looked, so I will sober up and look again before I say anything else damning.
 
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