Who regrets buying a Tron pin?

[metahugh]

I think the music in Tron is awesome (I bought the movie soundtrack BTW if that tells you anything). I have to admit when I first stepped up to Tron LE I was not impressed, I felt that the plastic ramps stood out too much for being plastic... they were plasticy... hmmm that's not making much sense

They felt cheap quality and construction wise. I walked away and came back to the game and I enjoyed it much more the second go around. I think when the lights are bright in the room the game looks cheaper but with them dimmed a bit it looks better. I think the cheapness factor comes in when the light tubes are not lit, once they are lit is changes the appearance of the ramps and it looks much better.

Tron, like Avatar and Iron Man I could see owning but not for the prices they command today. Sub $3500 pricing, sure.

 

[Rob T]

I think the music in Tron is awesome (I bought the movie soundtrack BTW if that tells you anything). I have to admit when I first stepped up to Tron LE I was not impressed, I felt that the plastic ramps stood out too much for being plastic... they were plasticy... hmmm that's not making much sense

They felt cheap quality and construction wise. I walked away and came back to the game and I enjoyed it much more the second go around. I think when the lights are bright in the room the game looks cheaper but with them dimmed a bit it looks better. I think the cheapness factor comes in when the light tubes are not lit, once they are lit is changes the appearance of the ramps and it looks much better.

Tron, like Avatar and Iron Man I could see owning but not for the prices they command today. Sub $3500 pricing, sure.

Good luck with that.

 

[metahugh]

Good luck with that.

I knew that would elicit a response from you

 

[KillerKades]

So.....a lot of regret if I read correctly?
I will move on and not do a trade. Thanks for the opinions!

I think your misreading it. Your reading the comments of ones who do not have the game or have only played one a couple times and maybe not even the LE. I think that most owners of them would certainly disagree with your statement.

I can tell you this, my LE is not leaving my collection anytime soon. It always has my full attention and keeps me coming back. It does not get boring. I guess I'm addicted as I find myself quoting the sound bites from the pin, but I do that with movies too.

So... "Libations for Everybody!!"

 

[jonathan1138]

So.....a lot of regret if I read correctly?
I will move on and not do a trade. Thanks for the opinions!

Krajker,

I like posts to offer / get opinions - helps to decide.

Ultimately though, play it to find out if its right for you.


Have you played the game? Whats your take?

 

[metahugh]

Krajker,

I like posts to offer / get opinions - helps to decide.

Ultimately though, play it to find out if its right for you.


Have you played the game? Whats your take?

I agree you need to play it.

Krajkerjac, what would you be trading?

 

[Les Manley]

I agree you need to play it.

Krajkerjac, what would you be trading?

Definitely comes down to what you are trading. Tron isn't a horrible game, it just isn't as good as I think it should have been. There are plenty of worse games out there you could be trading for a Tron and end up on the best end of the deal IMHO.

 

[quses]

For example, TSPP, LOTR, TAF, HS2, RFM and many others all lasted < 3 months. Space is scarce, need to keep games that get attention.

Different strokes for different folks for sure. To trash RFM or TSPP in favor of Tron means me and you have dramatically different priorities in terms of what we think makes a machine a "keeper" that "gets attention".

 

[RareHero]

Different strokes for different folks for sure. To trash RFM or TSPP in favor of Tron means me and you have dramatically different priorities in terms of what we think makes a machine a "keeper" that "gets attention".

...and what's wrong with that? OPINIONS! OMG!

 

[quses]

...and what's wrong with that? OPINIONS! OMG!

It just makes me realize that I need to further pursue this project I've been thinking of, on how to rate and rank pinball machines by identifying the different "styles" of players. It's a lot like music. Yea, some people love Justin Bieber and Yanni and hate Black Sabbath and the Beatles. You just have to distinguish which people fall into which groups when asking for their opinions. That way when someone says, "Zepplin IV didn't last on my turntable.. but David Hasslehoff? That's a keeper!" you can put it in perspective.

 

[RareHero]

It just makes me realize that I need to further pursue this project I've been thinking of, on how to rate and rank pinball machines by identifying the different "styles" of players. It's a lot like music. Yea, some people love Justin Bieber and Yanni and hate Black Sabbath and the Beatles. You just have to distinguish which people fall into which groups when asking for their opinions. That way when someone says, "Zepplin IV didn't last on my turntable.. but David Hasslehoff? That's a keeper!" you can put it in perspective.

What if one likes all styles of games? Sometimes I like a deep game (LOTR, TSPP), sometimes I like a "modes" game (Family Guy, Addams) sometimes I like a fast/shooters game (BSD, Avatar, BK2K), sometimes I like a funny "experience" game (RFM, Road Show, CV)

All games don't need to be "this" or "that" to be "good" ...I think if a game works well within its own context and it's software "gels" with the playfield design, it can be good and fun no matter what the style of design is like.

 

[quses]

What if one likes all styles of games? Sometimes I like a deep game (LOTR, TSPP), sometimes I like a "modes" game (Family Guy, Addams) sometimes I like a fast/shooters game (BSD, Avatar, BK2K), sometimes I like a funny "experience" game (RFM, Road Show, CV)

Of course, but everybody has preferences. Some people like linear games that last a long time; other people prefer more intense, small-ball-time games. And that also depends upon a person's mood, but the thing I'm thinking about is how to best categorize games so that when someone says this is a game they like or hate, what that really means? To some people the theme is everything and to others it's mostly about gameplay. Everybody has different tastes, so when someone says, "I don't like xxx" it doesn't reveal that much unless you know what types of games they prefer.

For me personally, I care mostly about gameplay. So when Stern announces their newest title, "The World According to Garp" I'm not like, "OH MY GAWD I LOVE ROBIN WILLIAMS AND HAVE TO PRE-ORDER TEH AW3S0ME!!!!" But I recognize, some people are like that. Some kind of survey might be helpful in identifying the different types of players -- and even if they all cross boundaries of taste, they still have certain areas they gravitate towards.

 

[Les Manley]

Of course, but everybody has preferences. Some people like linear games that last a long time; other people prefer more intense, small-ball-time games. And that also depends upon a person's mood, but the thing I'm thinking about is how to best categorize games so that when someone says this is a game they like or hate, what that really means? To some people the theme is everything and to others it's mostly about gameplay. Everybody has different tastes, so when someone says, "I don't like xxx" it doesn't reveal that much unless you know what types of games they prefer.

For me personally, I care mostly about gameplay. So when Stern announces their newest title, "The World According to Garp" I'm not like, "OH MY GAWD I LOVE ROBIN WILLIAMS AND HAVE TO PRE-ORDER TEH AW3S0ME!!!!" But I recognize, some people are like that. Some kind of survey might be helpful in identifying the different types of players -- and even if they all cross boundaries of taste, they still have certain areas they gravitate towards.

I don't think you can categorize like that. It isn't all objective, some people are going hate just to hate. The best way to do it IMHO is to include how many times you have played a game. I have found that many times, when someone doesn't like a game, it is because they played it 3 or 4 times, did poorly on it, so now it sucks. Usually how one performs on a game has a lot to do with their opinion on it. Take Star Trek: Next Generation. For me, the best pin ever made. General consensus is that it is a very good pin. Some don't like it, and I have found that is almost always that is because they are not good at it, but no one wants to admit that. The only other reason I have heard is they don't like the theme, which I will never stop me from liking a great game. IMHO, the opinion of someone who has barely played a game and may be seriously lacking in the skill department, really has little merit.

 

[VectorInvadr]

I love my Tron, no regrets here...... over 1,000 plays now, so you no where I stand

 

[quses]

I don't think you can categorize like that. It isn't all objective, some people are going hate just to hate. The best way to do it IMHO is to include how many times you have played a game. I have found that many times, when someone doesn't like a game, it is because they played it 3 or 4 times, did poorly on it, so now it sucks. Usually how one performs on a game has a lot to do with their opinion on it. Take Star Trek: Next Generation. For me, the best pin ever made. General consensus is that it is a very good pin. Some don't like it, and I have found that is almost always that is because they are not good at it, but no one wants to admit that. The only other reason I have heard is they don't like the theme, which I will never stop me from liking a great game. IMHO, the opinion of someone who has barely played a game and may be seriously lacking in the skill department, really has little merit.

See, but you bring up another dimension to the rating game: whether the pin has to have immediate appeal (without having to play a ton of times). You act as if that's not that important a criteria to judge pins on, but in actuality, historically that's been one of the most critical elements upon which a successful pin was judged. Remember, these games have primarily been designed to be placed on commercial locations, where people don't have the luxury to play 20 games in a row in order to figure out the ruleset. So again, this exemplifies the importance of qualifying what a person's individual preferences are and taking that into account when they recommend or pan a game.

As far as haters hating, well there's always a reason for that. Stern certainly has done a lot in the last few years to give people cause to not be excited about their products. But in contrast, JJP hasn't even put out a title yet and there are already people dissing their effort... something else you have to take into account.

Regarding STTNG, it's funny you bring that up as an example. I played that game on location and I HATED IT. Even though I like short ball time games, in STTNG, unless you know the game well, you can bounce the ball around, have it drain very quickly and not feel like you did anything more than waste your money. Even though I was a huge STTNG fan, I hated playing the game. I thought its design as a commercial game was seriously flawed. Now that I own the game, I can appreciate the nuances and depth of the ruleset, but it's still a very annoying game that has to be perfectly tuned to be fun to play. That to me is not the definition of the greatest game of them all.

I think what this comes down to is that all of us enthusiasts are many shades of different colors in terms of likes and dislikes. It's important to know as much about the reviewer as it is the product being reviewed.

 

[Rob T]

I knew that would elicit a response from you

Actually your price point isn't nearly as far off as I was thinking. For some reason I thought you were referring to the LE models of Avatar and Tron when I made my post, but in re-reading your post, I don't believe that you were.

 

[ENDOFLINE]

im also still loving my tron le. no regrets here.

although im more of a newb when it comes to pins... i too love the tron pin. first and foremost i love the theme, the music is also great. its def a challenging pin (getting to the portal mode can be tough). when i have friends/family over they love it too. havent had any issues yet, but still diggin it and this pin will mos def be staying in the collection.

now just need to get pin #2!! the hard part is picking my next pin. so many good titles out there, just trying to figure out what i want next since my WANT list is constantly changing chris

 

[pudluther]

just noticed this thread as i was searching for something else on here....



my TRON LE has between 600-700 plays on it now. i do not regret purchasing it. it's fun to play and a beauty to look at/listen to.

 

[TOK]

just noticed this thread as i was searching for something else on here....



my TRON LE has between 600-700 plays on it now. i do not regret purchasing it. it's fun to play and a beauty to look at/listen to.

Even if you regretted the purchase, it could still make you happy. LE's are selling for more now than they did new!
Before now, I don't think I ever remember something game related not depreciate for a few years before the value climbed back up (and any appreciation at all is rare).

 

[pudluther]

Even if you regretted the purchase, it could still make you happy. LE's are selling for more now than they did new!
Before now, I don't think I ever remember something game related not depreciate for a few years before the value climbed back up (and any appreciation at all is rare).

yeah...i've seen those asking prices. $8K+. jeez. not sure if they're selling for that, but damn, even though i love the pin if someone offered me $8K cash i think i'd have to let her go...

that's a lot of bank.