Who has Phoenix Arcades multi Williams films? Marquee and bezel interest?

Sounds like someone needs to buy them from tanman to get the ball rolling again. Are you suyre they are for sale? I've PM'd him a few times on MW stuff but never got a response. I'd consider buying them, but I 'd have to check with darin on how much a run would cost to see if its feasible.
 
you know, it would be nice if someone with a bigger financial backing like arcadeshop would take this up. nothing against their current product, but it really isn't the greatest quality, and i'm sure they'd sell a lot of the phoenix arcade design.
 
you know, it would be nice if someone with a bigger financial backing like arcadeshop would take this up. nothing against their current product, but it really isn't the greatest quality, and i'm sure they'd sell a lot of the phoenix arcade design.

Especially since he abandoned his multi board.
 
The market for any reproduction or multi-game artwork is going to fluctuate as the interest level in the games themselves does. This level is going to rise though as the availability or production run of a multi-boardset comes on the market. People buying the boardset will likely also be the market for the artwork (unless they squirreled away some from a previous run).

When a thread or multiple threads show up with people clamoring for artwork that was produced at some point and is now scarce or non-available, that's a prime opportunity for either the person who made it before or someone else with skills to pick it up and seize on that market opportunity.

Like others have done with custom runs of artwork or control panels, offer a run with pre-payment to ensure you get a return on your investment. Then the person making them makes just a few extras for people who didn't get in on the pre-payment option and those handful will likely disappear fairly shortly. As long as the pre-payment total will cover the costs of production with a reasonable profit margin, then that's a good business move.

Of course, that's only my opinion... :)
 
The market for any reproduction or multi-game artwork is going to fluctuate as the interest level in the games themselves does. This level is going to rise though as the availability or production run of a multi-boardset comes on the market. People buying the boardset will likely also be the market for the artwork (unless they squirreled away some from a previous run).

When a thread or multiple threads show up with people clamoring for artwork that was produced at some point and is now scarce or non-available, that's a prime opportunity for either the person who made it before or someone else with skills to pick it up and seize on that market opportunity.

Like others have done with custom runs of artwork or control panels, offer a run with pre-payment to ensure you get a return on your investment. Then the person making them makes just a few extras for people who didn't get in on the pre-payment option and those handful will likely disappear fairly shortly. As long as the pre-payment total will cover the costs of production with a reasonable profit margin, then that's a good business move.

Of course, that's only my opinion... :)

that's about what Tanman did and he still got stuck. the only difference was he was a nice guy and didn't force prepayment or even a deposit. he never ran the marquees or CPOs since he couldn't even get rid of the bezels.

i agree that this would need to be taken on by someone with a warehouse that they can carry inventory in and enough of a financial backing to be able sit on that inventory for a while.
 
Yes I still have the art files (as they are my designs) to make new film from, but I prefer not to go that route.
Darin

Boy, now i would say that this would be unethical, i would assume (which im good at my an ass of myself so i know its possible) but i highly doubt that whoever paid money for the films would have paid for them knowing that you MAY rerun the art at some point. It would be idiotic to pay for a set of films and then you run them, Why would anyone invest in the films then, the rights to produce the art is what make the films valuable, not just having them.
 
I can say that when Darin offered his CP up to make a production run again it worked out well for all of us who wanted one or two of these. I did just what gregbl suggested and it worked out just fine, I still have a few left to sell too. With about 40+ new MW CP and CPO owners out there right now someone could make a small run and probably do well. AND if Jrok would offer to make some more boards soon it would only help.
 
james did a pretty big run recently and has said he's doing another run after the first of the year. quite frankly, if he were to sell them directly on a website with a point of sale setup where non-board specific people could buy them, they could make money. or even if he were to sell them through arcadeshop at his price with a markup for AS. there's always gonna be a market for this board, and i don't think the demand's gonna die down anytime soon.
 
i'm trying to gert in touch with tanman to buy the films and currently getting a quote for an initial run to see if its feasible. Hopefully we'll make progress soon.
 
Boy, now i would say that this would be unethical, i would assume (which im good at my an ass of myself so i know its possible) but i highly doubt that whoever paid money for the films would have paid for them knowing that you MAY rerun the art at some point. It would be idiotic to pay for a set of films and then you run them, Why would anyone invest in the films then, the rights to produce the art is what make the films valuable, not just having them.

You're entitled to your opinion and not taking my comments in full. Im asking for the current owner to step forward so it wouldn't come to this. My post said multiple times I have no interest in running these. Im willing to help someone at no charge like I did with jim.

When I sold the films to don I specifically told him as long as he owned the films I wouldn't rerun them and if he ever got rid of them then I retain the right to reprint. I don't know what he said to the person he sold them to. They have since passed hands multiple times. Those were the terms if you agree with them or not.

Im told tanman still owns them and he wants$200 for them. If he is reading this he has my email and I will buy them to remove any potential conflicts.
 
If there is anything that I can help with regarding the funding to get the films rightfully, I would gladly do it. I am fairly new to these forums as I have only been acquiring games since March. But I understand the need to do things right around here. If the films can be found I would gladly purchase them for use to others.
 
So does this mean your going to run them......

well Ive been contacted by someone else in this forum who has a desire to buy the films and run them, depending on cost.

not sure which direction this will end up, but if he doesnt want to then by all means Id be willing to buy the films back for tanmans selling price of $200 even though I could output all new film. then I could run them and inventory them.

I want to be fair to tanman and I dont have his contact info but he has mine because he emailed me about 6 months (?) ago. so lets see how this plays out.
 
i don't want to throw any fuel on the fire, but if it helps anyone, i ordered this cpo resized to fit the shorter width of my sinistar control panel, and the quality of the cpo and print is the same as a tron CPO i have that came from phoenixarcadeand also other cpo's i've gotten. not trying to take business away from anyone but just trying to help anyone with a narrower williams cab.

http://www.arcadeoverlays.com/store...il.aspx?sid=1&sfid=17232&c=383928&i=250009922
 
Artwork is wrong and the holes probably won't register with Jim's CP. Just saying...
 
Here's an update...

I've been in touch with Tanman and purchased the MW films. They just shipped out and should be here in a couple weeks (coming from canada.. customs).

I am working with multiple printers to get quotes to do a run of MW bezels and marquees on plexi. As soon as I get those quotes back and determine if its cost effective I'll take preorders and do a run. Hopefully near/right after xmas.

I'll update everyone when I know more.

Malice95
 
Here's an update...

I've been in touch with Tanman and purchased the MW films. They just shipped out and should be here in a couple weeks (coming from canada.. customs).

I am working with multiple printers to get quotes to do a run of MW bezels and marquees on plexi. As soon as I get those quotes back and determine if its cost effective I'll take preorders and do a run. Hopefully near/right after xmas.

I'll update everyone when I know more.

Malice95

WOO HOO! I'll be all over that like "insert your favorite simile here"... :)
 
Artwork is wrong and the holes probably won't register with Jim's CP. Just saying...

what do you mean by that, as far as the artwork is wrong? i like it. i'm gonna go with arcadeshop's blank cp and punch the holes out myself, so as far as that goes i'm not gonna have any issues there. i've got a sinistar, so my control panel is almost two inches shorter than the robotron/joust style, so that disqualifies me from any of the phoenixarcade or most other cpo's go.
 
what do you mean by that, as far as the artwork is wrong? i like it. i'm gonna go with arcadeshop's blank cp and punch the holes out myself, so as far as that goes i'm not gonna have any issues there. i've got a sinistar, so my control panel is almost two inches shorter than the robotron/joust style, so that disqualifies me from any of the phoenixarcade or most other cpo's go.

If you going to go through all the trouble of drilling out holes....... Why don't you buy mine and just cut off 2" ???
 
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