Whitch mod?twilight zone

[ballytablewiz]

Player 2 is up

I'm so glad you brought up the clearcoating, because I think it needs elaboration. It does not "protect" anything. Quite the contrary, it destroys it forever. Pinball is a game of metal and wood, acrylic clearcoats are plastic. Now you're playing with metal and plastic, it's no longer pinball. Might as well play a video game, or a Stern The pinball cannot ROLL properly on plastic, instead it SLIDES across the surface, greatly altering it's kinetics and physics. That telltale rumble of the ball rolling across the grains and grooves in the wood is gone, and the thrill of the game becomes cold and dead. Organics.

WAX protects your playfield.

i agree with most of what you said, but i disagree with your stance on clearcoating and led's

clearing your playfield protects it!, i think mylar is does more damage to value(and art)

led's arent only nice to look at(when done tastefully) but also reduce heat, which also saves connectors and components

preservation is the goal

 

[pinman123]

I'm so glad you brought up the clearcoating, because I think it needs elaboration. It does not "protect" anything. Quite the contrary, it destroys it forever. Pinball is a game of metal and wood, acrylic clearcoats are plastic. Now you're playing with metal and plastic, it's no longer pinball. Might as well play a video game, or a Stern The pinball cannot ROLL properly on plastic, instead it SLIDES across the surface, greatly altering it's kinetics and physics. That telltale rumble of the ball rolling across the grains and grooves in the wood is gone, and the thrill of the game becomes cold and dead. Organics.

WAX protects your playfield.

Have tried LEDS in your machine?

 

[ballytablewiz]

Not an ordinary day, not an ordinary player.

Have tried LEDS in your machine?

Negative. Not a fan in general, although I will concede that they have their uses. Like heat reduction in trouble-prone areas, like the clock housing on Twilight Zone. Generally though, they're just too damn bright and concentrated/direct. LED flashers are the worst, it's like sitting inside an ambulance light bar.

 

[pinman123]

Negative. Not a fan in general, although I will concede that they have their uses. Like heat reduction in trouble-prone areas, like the clock housing on Twilight Zone. Generally though, they're just too damn bright and concentrated/direct. LED flashers are the worst, it's like sitting inside an ambulance light bar.

Ambulance light bar,HAHAHAHA!! i like that one your a real funny guy.I see where your coming from you just like everything to be original and i respect that

 

[dc2010]

I'm so glad you brought up the clearcoating, because I think it needs elaboration. It does not "protect" anything. Quite the contrary, it destroys it forever. Pinball is a game of metal and wood, acrylic clearcoats are plastic. Now you're playing with metal and plastic, it's no longer pinball. Might as well play a video game, or a Stern The pinball cannot ROLL properly on plastic, instead it SLIDES across the surface, greatly altering it's kinetics and physics. That telltale rumble of the ball rolling across the grains and grooves in the wood is gone, and the thrill of the game becomes cold and dead. Organics.

WAX protects your playfield.

wax cant permanetly seal or protect inserts,out holes, entances , infact with cc you dont need wax , a terry cloth once in a while is about all

it slides? how does it damage? , http://autodetailingnetwork.squares...uld-know-about-clear-coat-paint-finishes.html

let me be clear, you are a purist , thats fine

but just because you dont want to use something that isnt original doesn't make it bad

there a NUMEROUS advantages to clearing a pf, but i recognize you wont listen so ill save us both the wasted breath and time

 

[metahugh]

As a dedicated Twilight Zone player and aficionado, it's my duty to chime in and tell you (and anyone else) to NOT drill holes in your playfield.

A "mod" that you bolt, sticker, or otherwise apply without permanent modification is one thing - the third magnet is another. If your playfield did not come with one, don't f*ck with it. Buy a spare playfield that already has it and keep your original, ORIGINAL. Yes, it's neat and all (a proto I play has it), but it's not worth destroying an original that didn't come with it. There are plenty of folks, me being one, that view your machine as considerably devalued when modified from it's factory state. Keep your machines factory stock!

I'm also against aftermarket clearcoating, LED's, and even bolt-on mods - but I'm sick like that.

Rod is watching you...

For the most part I'd agree with you. I of course disagree about the doing the third magnet It was removed for cost cutting reasons only so why not put it back? You aren't alone though, many people feel the same way about cabinet decals devaluing a game. That's cool with me I'm not modifying my game to satisfy anyone but myself . My game is close to proto, it was only missing the third magnet. I have the green lock insert so I thought why not since I was getting the playfield worked on anyways.

I'm so glad you brought up the clearcoating, because I think it needs elaboration. It does not "protect" anything.

If you have a playfield that is damaged and needs to be repaired then yes it definitely does protect it. Mine was severely damaged in several spots, how else would you protect it? You seem knowledgeable on the subject so you know these playfields were clearcoated from the factory right? That being said putting clearcoat on the playfield is no different than what the factory did as long as you keep it thin like the factory.

Have you played a clearcoated playfield before? I'd agree its faster at first because the clear is new. Once you get some plays the speed dies down. It doesn't last forever. Trust me wax wouldn't have protected this:

If it weren't for those issues and a few others I would have kept it original. I like original, but in certain cases its worth making the modification.

 

[gweempose]

I have a proto TZ with the hole already drilled. I've been debating whether or not to add the third magnet, which would obviously be relatively easy on my machine. Is it really worth it? Does it improve the gameplay or add anything particularly cool to the playing experience? How often is the third magnet actually used?

 

[DeLoreanRide]

I dont think it's worth it. The only time it is used is in starting multiball. Once the powerball is used and the machine learns the location of the powerball, then the third magnet can be used. The only time I know of it being used is if you have one ball locked, you start the multiball, the autolauncher launches one ball to the left magnet, one ball to the third magnet, then the lock spits it out to the right magnet, they all hold on the magnets for a second, then they all release; and that's it. It's no wonder it didn't make it into production. At least the main 2 magnets actually have a function; like setting up your shot into the piano or the camera.

The only mods I like are LED's, the Subwoofer kit, The piano, and The clock housing. Otherwise I think mods just make the playfield crowded. I have a rocket on my machine just because it was on it when I bought it.

 

[dc2010]

For the most part I'd agree with you. I of course disagree about the doing the third magnet It was removed for cost cutting reasons only so why not put it back? You aren't alone though, many people feel the same way about cabinet decals devaluing a game. That's cool with me I'm not modifying my game to satisfy anyone but myself . My game is close to proto, it was only missing the third magnet. I have the green lock insert so I thought why not since I was getting the playfield worked on anyways.




If you have a playfield that is damaged and needs to be repaired then yes it definitely does protect it. Mine was severely damaged in several spots, how else would you protect it? You seem knowledgeable on the subject so you know these playfields were clearcoated from the factory right? That being said putting clearcoat on the playfield is no different than what the factory did as long as you keep it thin like the factory.

Have you played a clearcoated playfield before? I'd agree its faster at first because the clear is new. Once you get some plays the speed dies down. It doesn't last forever. Trust me wax wouldn't have protected this:

If it weren't for those issues and a few others I would have kept it original. I like original, but in certain cases its worth making the modification.

very well said!

i would never c.c a playfield just for the hell of it, but if you have a damaged pf that isnt reproed or cost effective to buy new, and you repair it ...why wouldnt you c.c to protect it?, again very well stated!

 

[vicjw66]

The robot mod that attaches over the main ramp definitly gives a cluttered feel. Plus you lose sight of the ball as it first goes up the ramp and under the robot. Don't like it.

 

[Lindsey]

I guess anyone who doesn't like clear coated playfields must not like games from the early/mid nineties to today (like TZ). "Diamond plate" playfields are not that much different than the clears being shot on playfields today as far as how they will play. No one said you have to shoot 20 coats of clear on a playfield.

 

[dc2010]

I guess anyone who doesn't like clear coated playfields must not like games from the early/mid nineties to today (like TZ). "Diamond plate" playfields are not that much different than the clears being shot on playfields today as far as how they will play. No one said you have to shoot 20 coats of clear on a playfield.

exactly.....