what kind of primer (type / color) are you using?

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i'm getting ready to repaint my joust 2 cab, but before i start with the BLACK base color, i'd like to put some wood primer underneath. the cab had some serious water damage and i had to use a lot of wood filler to restore it, so i don't want those spots / areas to shine through the base color.

for my previous projects i have always used white wood primer, but now i've read somewhere (don't remember where though) that you shouldn't be putting white primer underneath a black base color. is that correct?

over here in germany we only have two types of wood primer, transparent wood impregnation and the white wood primer.

my questions:
- what type of wood primer are you using before painting your cab (if any at all)?
- is it ok to use white wood primer underneath the black color?

looking forward to your answers, this is my first complete paint job (cab is stripped down) and i don't want to take any chances.

THX
 
Just mix some black in with the white primer. Assuming both primer and paint are the same type for a compatible mix.
 
nope, the primer is water-based, the color oil-based. don't even know if it's a good idea to use water-based primer when the cab had some water damage. could that become a problem?


Ouch. Can you get an oil-based primer? That's the most important one to have in oil.
 
First off, it's the first contact your bare wood/mdf/part board has to paint. Water-based primers can cause swelling and raised wood grain. I also find latex/ water based primers don't seal as well as oil, which is the goal here. Seal and stain block. I also wouldn't recommend painting oil over latex, though the other way works quite well.
 
well, the white wood primer i'm using is specially designed to provide protection for stuff like garden furniture. this is not just a normal primer, this is WOOD primer, so i guess it can't be that wrong after all, can it?

i primed my WoW with it and applied oil-based paint on top - the cab's still standing after one week. ask me again next week ... ;)

man, this is difficult to decide. there aren't that many options!
 
well, the white wood primer i'm using is specially designed to provide protection for stuff like garden furniture. this is not just a normal primer, this is WOOD primer, so i guess it can't be that wrong after all, can it?

i primed my WoW with it and applied oil-based paint on top - the cab's still standing after one week. ask me again next week ... ;)

man, this is difficult to decide. there aren't that many options!

Well then, buy some water-based black and mix it with your primer. If you wanna put oil over latex, be my guest. If it worked once, it should work again.
 
i just got done primering my cut corner cab i use kilz primer/stain blocker and use water base (im to impatient to wait for the dam oil based stuff to dry )
i have done like 10 cabs so far and no problems (well excpt for one that i didnt prime and used laytex paint on top of laminate didnt work to well )
 
It would be ok to use white primer under a dark color, but it would take more effort to color. A proper finish will probably have enough coats that it will be irrelevant though..

I did a lot of research into whether to use latex/water or oil based paint. Common sense dictates that oil based is more durable, etc.. but latex finishes have come a LONG ways. The general consensus I got from RGP, and these guys tend to be PICKY when repainting a $2000 Fathom pin, is to go with premium latex. It's MUCH easier to apply and much easier to clean up the gun afterwards.

I've done 2 jobs in a row that went flawlessly. The mixture I used, which I found on a woodworking forum (experience) is 85% latex paint, 10% water, and 5% Floetrol (flowing agent). It could probably be thinned a bit more without running, and I have more experimentation to do, but it worked.

Here's a link to a few pics of me repainting the backbox of a Stern - Dracula, and a DK Jr. cabinet. In both cases, I used white Valspar or Krylon rattle can primer. The finish will only be as smooth as the prep work. The paint will NOT make a rough surface smooth, it will only cover up some of the issues.

http://joeysgameroom.blogspot.com/

If spraying black, I highly recommend you use a darker primer, though a light grey would be sufficient. For the above examples, I ended up spraying 4 or 5 coats. Sounds like a lot, but they were very thin coats and thinner when they dried and flowed out.

I used Olympic premium latex, semi-gloss, from Lowes. I think, that even for a Pac, WMS cabinet, or pin cabinet, the gloss would end up looking TOO shiny.

Joey
 
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