West Coast WA to OR to No. CAL to So. Cal arcade transport pipeline?!

Nice! Looks like it's in better shape than the ones Fonty and I got.

Karl, you just gotta figure out how much to charge to make it worth your while. If someone is too cheap then screw 'em. It's up to them to decide whether the overall cost is worth it, and if it's not, then it's not up to you to make it worthwhile to them.

I haven't been in this hobby that long, but it's been long enough to realize that in areas like mine you have to be willing to travel if you want to build up the size of your game room. And traveling ain't cheap. A trailer with 6 or more games is going to be much more efficient cost wise than someone making a trip for a single game. Although to me there's something fun about a road trip to pick up a game I'm dying to get.

As for detours, I think they ought to be minimized as much as possible. It'd be great if sellers are willing to drop games off at central locations but at the very least buyers should not have an expectation of having games dropped off at their door. Maybe a meet up close to I-5 if they're not close to one of the "warehouses".

Just my brainstorming - not like I'm some kind of shipping expert! Seems like it needs to be kept as simple as possible to work in the long run.
 
TheShanMan said:
It'd be great if sellers are willing to drop games off at central locations but at the very least buyers should not have an expectation of having games dropped off at their door. Maybe a meet up close to I-5 if they're not close to one of the "warehouses".
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I agree with TheShanMan , Thats the part of the plan I don't think will work . Most sellers are not going to want to drop a game off at a central location .

Lets say I'm selling a game and I have two buyers , one local , one in LA . If I wanna sell to the guy in LA , that means I gotta drive 4 hours round trip to drop it off in Sacramento at the drop off location . I'm out the gas money and the time to take it there , or I can sell it to a local guy and he can come pick it up . Makes sense to sell local then having the hassle to drop it off and have to spend money on gas and time .

I can understand the buyers having to pick up .

Lets say I buy a game off Craigslist or Ebay in LA . The seller is not gonna want to drive a few hours to drop it off somewhere .
 
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I think you missed my point. I understand sellers are less likely to do that. However, if it's a klov brother who has bought into this idea and is benefiting by selling a game that they're having some trouble selling, and also perhaps buying a game that isn't plentiful in their area then maybe dropping off makes sense to the seller.

Or an agreement with the buyer to pay an extra fee to the seller to deliver it to the pipeline.

Or if there are a few bay area folk who have lined up buyers along the pipeline and one of them is making a trip to Sac anyway, then they can get a cut of the delivery fee. In other words, strategic tributaries.
 
TheShanMan said:
I think you missed my point. I understand sellers are less likely to do that. However, if it's a klov brother who has bought into this idea and is benefiting by selling a game that they're having some trouble selling, and also perhaps buying a game that isn't plentiful in their area then maybe dropping off makes sense to the seller.

Or an agreement with the buyer to pay an extra fee to the seller to deliver it to the pipeline.

Or if there are a few bay area folk who have lined up buyers along the pipeline and one of them is making a trip to Sac anyway, then they can get a cut of the delivery fee. In other words, strategic tributaries.
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Yeah , I was agreeing with you on the points you brought out in my earlier post . I edited it ,


I don't mind driving to Sac to pick up a game I'm buying , its the sellers end that needs to be figured out .
 
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Yeah there is a juke in LA I'm eyeing but have no way to get there. I'd pay to have it delivered. Anyone want to snatch it for me before its gone? :)
 
Great idea, sorry I didnt check back into the other thread.

Anyways, with NAVL charging upwards of $400 to ship a game, any KLOVer should be happy to pay $200 or so to get a game they really want.

I envision a network of members in the various areas, who are able to help in various ways.

Maybe some guys with shops can store games and drive short legs to pick up games, while others who happen to drive up and down I-5 alot would be able to help out with longer legs of driving. Those involved could make it clear what they want to get out of it and the price could be figured out that way.

For example, I am in Portland. I have a shop, I can store a few games temporarily. I dont drive much, and my rig only carries one game at a time. If someone in Sac. sees a game in Portland they want, I could pick it up for them and store it for a small fee. $10 per month or so, just so I am not stuck storing games for the millenium.

Now maybe Fullthrottle is coming through in a month or so to head down south, he has a big trailer, and the guy in Sac says, "hey man I will give you $100 to bring that game down for me". Now maybe there are other deals that have also happened, games sitting in Seattle, Eugene, Medford etc.. They can all get picked up along the way. Of course then you could have games in CA that are waiting to come to collectors up north, it could all work out pretty sweet.

People would need to be patient, and just let each other know what it is they are capabale of doing, where they are located, and what they need to get to make it worthwhile to them. If we can consolidate alot of purchaes at once, it could be very efficient.

Any California guys willing to pick up games and store them for northerers?
 
karl I think this would be easier if it just applied to Klov brothers so you dont have to hassel with misc.sellers. Also all pickups should be allong I-5. maybe at a mcDonalds,a gas station,Starbucks or something.That way your not wasting time and gas making pickups and drop offs.There's a game in Cali I want and if it made it to your house Hell I wouldnt mind picking up my game from your garage.Best of luck....dave
 
simpsons99 said:
Soooo how much is this going too cost me if this happens?
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Don't set anything up! This is an idea that I'm bouncing around, but no logistics have been figured out. Hell, I don't even know who would pick it up, store it, or bring it to the Oregon border... Couldn't even guess when this would be a possibility of happening. But for a change machine which is 2 feet by 3 feet you'd be looking at a guesstimate of $150 plus the legwork cost in CA to get it to my house, which legwork could run $50 all in itself. Getting it from my house would be on your dollar, or even more if I had to drive that biatch all the way up to you!

At this point I'm just seeing if there is enough interest and if its even logistically possible.

Dave, great suggestions! It would be a "collector" kinda thing, not exclusive, but its alot easier to figure out machine pickups when you have a solid location to start doing the math from. Also the arcade brothers are alot easier to negotiate and work with than some random craigslister, which in most cases by the time you could figure it out would be already sold.

Next year for the CAX trip I will NOT be doing a trailer... too much time, money and headache. I will have about 5 spots going down and coming back, but since I don't know whats even going on or what month or what I'm trying to find down there I can't even start thinking of return trip pickups until next springtime.
 
Seems to me that Brick Top has developed a key point if this is to work:

"If we can consolidate alot of purchases at once, it could be very efficient."

In order to realize the potential cost savings if this "KLOV Hauler" proposal comes together I think that Brick Top's point means that buyers might have to wait longer than normal for a shipment to arrive. For economies of scale to work I also suggest that multiple machines need to be involved, and sometimes that would mean waiting until making a trip makes sense. "Consolidating alot of purchases at once" might take days or weeks depending on many factors. Or am I off base here?

BTW, I am in the Phoenix area and might be able to do runs where I could meet/swap with someone willing to meet up either in Blythe or maybe Palm Springs.
 
I think that's a given. Actually I think Karl even mentioned it as a "once every 3 months" kind of thing.
 
hauling

Yes i know about not setting anything up but how are we going too know if anyone going too do this then. Just getting all my ducks in a row! Heck if someone has one here in washington i will buy it.

Really you get all these people lined up too do these trips then no one wants too pay 150.00 or more. *Cheap KLOV Buyers*

I don'nt have a problem with it !! I think it would be alot safer then having them shipped.
 
Yes, as I mentioned a few times this would be a truck load of machines per leg, and it would happen every couple of months as the storage was filled and ready to goto the next zone. It would be even cooler if the trucks could swap games so no truck leaves empty, more bang for the buck.

I have a change machine Simpsons99, not the same brand like the Rowe that you have pictured but its supposed to work (haven't tried it yet) and is the fullsize floor model. Its in good shape and the lock has been drilled ready for replacement... I haven't decided what to do with it, I've been thinking about putting one in my house but unsure if I'd go quarter or token and not looking forward to messing around with dozens of mechs to get 'em all working.
 
simpsons99 said:
Yes i know about not setting anything up but how are we going too know if anyone going too do this then. Just getting all my ducks in a row! Heck if someone has one here in washington i will buy it.

Really you get all these people lined up too do these trips then no one wants too pay 150.00 or more. *Cheap KLOV Buyers*

I don'nt have a problem with it !! I think it would be alot safer then having them shipped.
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How I'd start is by first getting all of the legs/drivers/trucks covered with their known locations. Then you put the word out that its available... I'm for sure going down next Summer but no point in starting with one machine before I even know if there is volunteers to make this happen. There are people willing to pay for shipping, but its only about 1/4th of the general klov public from my experience.
 
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Karl I would be interested in it but i was really looking for the brown one lol. Thats the one i used too put my money in too get those Tokens !

Wondering how much you would want for yours? Is it the Big 3 Hopper one? Send me pics !
Yes i have the same problem as you. Half of my games either the tokens don'nt fit in the coin door or it rejects them.

Plus this thing can safely hold thousands of tokens! Nothing like hearing the tokens coming out of this thing!
 
This is pretty exciting news. I have to say there is a game or two I'm looking for and never popup in this area but always seems to be readily available in Cali for what ever reason. Would like to jump on this service when it becomes available.
 
Well, as far as progress there is none... Its an idea and a pipe dream at this point.
I will keep it in mind and maybe start up the thread in the future...
But the plan is full of holes and not enough interest to start it off right now.
I've been plotting city distances and figuring percentages, but the California leg is a big grey area...
 
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