Warning to all buyers: PayPal Gift = Caution!

[shardian]

As a seller, the thing that irritates me about gift payments is that I then can't use the one button shipping label generator.

Without that, for some reason I always get lazy and just go to the post office and lose out on my online postage discount. It all comes out in the wash on small items. For bigger items, paypal fees can be quite intrusive. At that point I don't like to absorb them or expect the buyer to pay them. I usually ask for a money order so I don't have to pay the fees. If the buyer wants to do gift, then that's fine with me. I don't ask for it though, that's just weird.

 

[MmSadda]

So round up to the an even dollar amount... guestimate... it's not that hard. You want $100? Fees will be 6.38297? Ask for $110.

Why is it CRAP that you should do your work as a seller and calculate the fees, for the service you're using, into your asking price?

Orrrr I could just try to avoid giving 6% of everything I buy or sell to Paypal. I think that works just fine, in fact.

 

[Alpha1]

Im guilty of that, Ive asked buyers to send it as a gift because paypal and ebay rape you. Never actually thought about the buyer not having any recourse. But then again ive never screwed or have been screwed by anyone on these forums as of yet, and ive done business with quite a few of you on here for the last i dont know how many years ive been on here. But yes you are right, I guess im a little too trusting sometimes. better safe than sorry.

I ask for Paypal GIFT, or Paypal + 4% to cover fees. If they use the latter they are protected and gives first time buyers assurance their money isn't lost.

Oliver

 

[shilmover]

i ask for it as a gift or money owed, it's a big chunk out of profit on a 300+ dollar cabinet. I always deliver when people order, so it's no big deal, and i give out my phone and adress freely.

I'm guilty of this too, but I hope my reputation speaks for itself.

 

[MmSadda]

I'm guilty of this too, but I hope my reputation speaks for itself.

You're not guilty of anything. You and the guy you quoted sound like stand-up guys, and if you do what you say you do, the only thing you're "guilty" of is cutting into Paypal's profits.

 

[shilmover]

You're not guilty of anything. You and the guy you quoted sound like stand-up guys, and if you do what you say you do, the only thing you're "guilty" of is cutting into Paypal's profits.

Believe me, Paypal has gotten a ton of $ from me...

 

[YellowDog]

Trust me, for those of you that did not try doing mail order or EBay before Paypal was an option, the little bit of a hit that Paypal takes for the limited useage is worth it. Ask anybody on here that maintains a mechant account with a credit card processor. Paypal is tame compared to the sliding fees, percentages and chargebacks the CC processors charge. Especially when you fall below their minimum usages.

Also, everyone bitches about the amount of fraud that occurs now. It was at least as bad 10 years ago when you would get washed money orders, bad checks and when you were the buyer, you had to wait forever before somebody would ship anything, while they waited for your check or MO to clear.

I'm not saying that Paypal is good, just that it is a necessary evil in the current marketplace. If I can find something local and work out a cash and carry on it, I'm all over that. And I have done that long distance a couple of times, as long as it fits in the overhead bin. But let's face it, saving $3 or $6 on a $100 item doesn't buy much gas these days.

ken

 

[saturnkk]

When I use my credit card at the store they don't tack on the credit card fee... It is either the cost of doing business or factored into the sale price.

As a seller it is your responsibility to ask a price that takes into account what you need for the item and the cost of doing business. The only exception to this is shipping as this is a variable that can have a large range.

Everyone who is a crooked seller said they were honest when you started dealing with them. Hell, even some "honest" dealers have screwed customers over from time to time.

Bottom line, unless I have a personal relationship with you, have been doing business for years, or it is an amount that I can risk to lose, why should I TRUST anyone anywhere as a buyer and give-up any recourse that I may have.

Pay Pal has competitors and they'll have more if they piss-off enough people. How much more business can you, do you, do because Pay Pal exists?!? Without them you would have a hard time selling from your garage to people you never met over the internet.

 

[shilmover]

When I use my credit card at the store they don't tack on the credit card fee... It is either the cost of doing business or factored into the sale price.

As a seller it is your responsibility to ask a price that takes into account what you need for the item and the cost of doing business. The only exception to this is shipping as this is a variable that can have a large range.

Everyone who is a crooked seller said they were honest when you started dealing with them. Hell, even some "honest" dealers have screwed customers over from time to time.

Bottom line, unless I have a personal relationship with you, have been doing business for years, or it is an amount that I can risk to lose, why should I TRUST anyone anywhere as a buyer and give-up any recourse that I may have.

Pay Pal has competitors and they'll have more if they piss-off enough people. How much more business can you, do you, do because Pay Pal exists?!? Without them you would have a hard time selling from your garage to people you never met over the internet.

I agree.

I have never "killed" a deal because I did not get the Paypal payment as a "gift". I simply ask if the buyer minds doing it. 99% of the time they agree, the other 1% either add some $ to cover the fees or we split the difference or I pay the fees.