Warning The Pinball Company AKA Nic Parks

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TLDR: Nic put down a 300 dollar deposit via paypal and agrees to pay the rest in cash. Sends his employee out with a check. Chews me out / yells at me over the phone when I try to get him to paypal the rest. I relented and took the check. Nic wrote the check for the wrong amount and then demands I paypal the rest back. Issues chargeback. Threatens that if I posted this publicly and I quote *If you post there, it will only affect your ability to post there ever again.*

I hate bullies. I hate when people do not hold up their end of the bargain. I am not here to argue with anyone over what they feel is right or wrong, but I do want people who may encounter Nic to know what kind of person they are dealing with.

Nic contacted me via Mr. Pinball about my Airborne. He saw the pictures, liked the price and we looked at various options for him to get the machine. At first he was going to paypal me the whole amount and ship it, but he decides that he will pick it up instead. I explicitly asked via email for 10 percent via paypal (300), that the rest be paid in cash on pickup, and that he had six weeks to pick it up. I very clearly wrote no checks and cash on pickup. There is no ambiguity on this matter.

Two weeks later Nic sent his employee out. Guy calls at the scheduled time to say he is an hour and half away, but ok things happens. He gets here, looks over the game and hands me an envelope, with a check. I explain that I do not take checks. I have a friend who has dealt with this company, but before Nic emailed me I had never heard of them. I say call your boss and half him paypal me what he owes. Guy calls his boss and hands me the phone, and I got ripped a new one. *How dare I, the seller, not want to take a check from a company that does 1 million in sales.* Nic also seemed to be under the impression that as a collector I am automatically tuned into retail companies, even though I have never bought retail.

So, after getting reamed Nic says the deal is off and that I am to refund the deposit. I never agreed to that, I had pulled my ad, rearranged my day, and frankly the screw up is very clearly his fault. Still, the guy is here, drives a large company van, and my friend is saying its safe so I relented and take the check. I tell the employee I never want to hear from them again and he leaves. I head straight to the bank and deposit the check.

Game is gone, check is cashed, done right? Wrong, Nic wrote the check for 3000 and I get this very apologetic email explaining that he chewed me out because he was having problems with his kid. That I am to send the deposit back when the check clears. No. I never agreed to any of this and I just got reamed by someone who screwed up. An honest mistake is one thing, but this guy doubled down and tried to brow beat me.

He opened a dispute with paypal. Neither of us are going to sweat the money. He sees it that he agreed to pay 3000. I see it that he agreed to pay cash, failed, chewed me out, but worse lied. You see, Nic never had any intention of paying cash. "We are a legit company and can't use cash to purchase items. Our accountant requires check or credit card so it can be documented. " He had no business agreeing to my terms and flat out lied.

I informed him that i responded to his paypal dispute and that I would just be posting the entire matter publicly. I invited him to refute anything I post as incorrect. His response "The people who run the Facebook pages and Pinside are my friends. If you post there, it will only affect your ability to post there ever again."

At this point my last communication from him is simply "F*** off!" (Edited due to his swearing) And it seems he isn't feeling very confident with paypal since he issued a chargeback. As I said, I don't care about the money, but next time someone is making a deal with The Pinball Company you might want to consider how he conducts business.
 
So, confusing post aside, it doesn't matter if someone was an idiot or not if they over paid intentionally or accidentally you owe them the money back. It's really hard to tell by your words if you got a check for 3000 on top of a deposit and he wants the deposit back or not. If that's what happened then you got your 3k and owe him any balance back.
 
If it was me, I would not load a 3k game until I had payment in hand... And the fact that a check was sent when you said you required cash IS messed up... But you made the deal AND you took more than was agreed... Two wrongs don't make a right... It is also foolish to post here and not expect people to weigh in...
 
He sounds unpleasant.

But, if he gave you a down payment of 300 plus a check for 3000 and you agreed on a price of 3000, you owe him 300. Him not honoring what you discussed as far as the terms for that payment doesn't qualify you for a bonus. Pay him the money back and move on.
 
Is that the tax a douche collects?

I propose that we institute this as a general KLOV policy. Don't like the transaction you've had with another KLOVer? Hit them with a 10% douche tax!

OP, what the others are saying is correct. If the bill was supposed to be $3000, don't keep anything beyond $3000. Yeah, sounds like the other guy was a jerk but that doesn't mean you get to keep more money than what was agreed to.
 
I propose that we institute this as a general KLOV policy. Don't like the transaction you've had with another KLOVer? Hit them with a 10% douche tax!

OP, what the others are saying is correct. If the bill was supposed to be $3000, don't keep anything beyond $3000. Yeah, sounds like the other guy was a jerk but that doesn't mean you get to keep more money than what was agreed to.

"Douche Tax" and "Bro Pricing" - those go well together... I think we have a new KLOV term...
 
You would be doing him a favor in the long run keeping the extra $300; maybe he will think twice before he bitches the next person out for HIS mistake.
 
You would be doing him a favor in the long run keeping the extra $300; maybe he will think twice before he bitches the next person out for HIS mistake.

Man, I disagree with you.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to hit you with a $10 "douche tax" made payable to Tombo.

Hey, what if the mods here were allowed to charge "douche taxes" to members that post stupid things?
 
Man, I disagree with you.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to hit you with a $10 "douche tax" made payable to Tombo.

Hey, what if the mods here were allowed to charge "douche taxes" to members that post stupid things?

A few members would go broke... the rest would leave...
 
This post could of omitted the buyer, you owe the guy $300 after the check clears, don't be a douche. The buyer may have been a pain, but no reason to call him out. You were paid, game is gone.

Also, you could of just wrote him back a check for the overpayment.
 
This post could of omitted the buyer, you owe the guy $300 after the check clears, don't be a douche. The buyer may have been a pain, but no reason to call him out. You were paid, game is gone.

Also, you could of just wrote him back a check for the overpayment.

Just like the Nigerian Prince asked me to do! Can't wait until I get that extra 19 million from the lottery i don't remember entering!
 
it's not worth keeping the $300 for the long-term drama that could ensure (regardless of who's right or wrong). the last thing you need is that turd coming back to clog the toilet and flood dookie water all over your nice, marble floors (so to speak, of course)

get him the $300, flush that turd, and move on
 
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