Vs. to Playchoice to Vs. I'll explain.

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I'll be short. As i'm usally long winded.

Put two Playchoice 10 Single Monitor PCB's into a Dual Monitor System, Like a Red Tent.
Download .Nes Files of Vs.Games. Use a .Nes File extractor, to break it down to the CHR and PRG. Burn the right chips, then put them on PC-10 Game PCB's. Booom, you have a Red Tent Populated with 10 Vs. Games on each Playchoice mainboard. 2 player only.

I have no clue if this will work, just a concept idea. Currently I have a burnner and a eraser coming in the mail, plus some used chips. I hope to have the time to test my experiment by the start of Sept.

If this is an idea that has already been tried, please let me know. Any tips would be apperciated.

Edit: Forgot to add that most of these games normally on a Nes Emulator require Game Genie Codes to work, due to the lack of a coin mech. Plus I have no clue how it would function on a PC-10 on free play. Even if it will work at all, as it wasn't intended to work on this hardware in the first place.
 
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Really sounds like an overly expensive and less functional alternative to just installing a Nes emulator on each side of a red tent.
 
Well, the red tent already has the means of running a pc-10 board and my guess is he wants to run original hardware and not emulation.
 
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Well, the red tent already has the means of running a pc-10 board and my guess is he wants to run original hardware and not emulation.

Prity much on the nose. Plus I want to do a Proof of Concept. Its really not expensize, I was buying everything that I need anyways. If it doesn't work, then i'm not out. But if it does work, it opens it up to other people that can't or don't want to buy a Vs System/Cabinet but already have a playchoice 10.

Plus, I never really liked Mame system or emulation in the broad sence.
 
You could also get several of 2600's NES cart adapters for you PC-10 and install these in each:

http://www.retrousb.com/product_info.php?cPath=29&products_id=94
http://www.retrousb.com/product_info.php?cPath=29&products_id=98
http://www.retrousb.com/product_info.php?cPath=29&products_id=96
http://www.retrousb.com/product_info.php?cPath=29&products_id=99
http://www.retrousb.com/product_info.php?cPath=29&products_id=97

What I am confused about, I have this PC board (currently in a upright):

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Is this the same pinout as my Red Tent? Can I just plug it in? I am guessing no. I have asked this before but I was always confused by the answer, I know there was a kit that added a huge tumor to the bottom of the RT for the PC board, but it looks like it would fit right in my cabinet without such tumor.
 
I don't have a straight answer for you on the whole Vs Harness and Single Monitor Harness compatiablity. I would assume that you could plug them in, yet the issue you would have is the harness is flipped. Meanning the pins for power etc, would be going to the wrong connection. I'm probly wrong, its just a guess.

Yeah, i've seen those on Retrozone before, but If I can say take an extra PC-10 TMNT's and turn it into a Vs Game. I'm only out the cost of the Vs. Game eproms. Vs buying a adapter and then buying the Retrozone Repro. I do admit it is an alternative, just a expensive one.

In the end there is always a way to MacGuyver it.
 
The kit does add the little box on the bottom. Pretty much the way mine is setup, I have the box on the bottom, an extra power supply mounted in the tent itself, and then an extra harness running through. This way, when I switch to PC-10 I just swap the connections to the monitor and the control panel and that is all. The PC-10 is running all the time as I have it connected to power on with the system, regardless if i am using the PC-10 or both sides as Vs.
 
The kit does add the little box on the bottom. Pretty much the way mine is setup, I have the box on the bottom, an extra power supply mounted in the tent itself, and then an extra harness running through. This way, when I switch to PC-10 I just swap the connections to the monitor and the control panel and that is all. The PC-10 is running all the time as I have it connected to power on with the system, regardless if i am using the PC-10 or both sides as Vs.

OK, but still doesn't answer my question, can you plug the PC10 board into the VS harness? My PC10 upright was a DKjr that was conveted to a Unisystem then PC10. Was this a simple board swap, or did the harness need to be completely replaced.
 
it kinda works on a single monitor vs wiring harness. if you look at the pinout sheets you will see that the 2nd side controls are a little different. to make a vs harness work, one side of the harness for the control side is just cut. check out the pinouts of the two and you will quickly see what i am talking about here. the control side of the harness on the dual vs system has both sides filled in order to control the 2nd screen. the control side of the pc10 single monitor harness takes that side for the timer and reset button. the timer has a bunch of (5v) voltage going to it.

as for it fitting in the red tent slot. yes it will fit but the harness has to be turned upside down and the last game or maybe two (slot 9-10) will hit the flyback cage. also the pc10 single monitor board connectors are on different sides when compared to the vs motherboards. this makes it impossible to plug in without adjusting the wiring slack. i guess they made it that way to make sure no one plugged in a pc10 board to the red tent?

does that answer your question?
 
OK, so you would have to cut some of the wires to plug it in. I think that it would be pretty straight forward to make and adapter so you wouldn't have to deal with that. Also, you could put the video on both screens that way too.
 
if you was into making an adapter you could make one long enough to reach the 2nd monitor side. this way you could also make another pcb holder in the empty hole like i did and keep the pc10 motherboard on the other side.

to use both you need the 2nd power supply. to use one motherboard, a simple adaptor wiring harness seems like it would be enough.
 
The Vs. system board has 4K of RAM for CPU. PC-10 has only 2K. Those NES conversion of the Vs. games might not use that additional 2K, I don't even know what Vs. System games use that additional 2K. I believe the PC-10 and NES games are able to expand the RAM, but the CPU RAM might be addressed differently...

If it turns out that some games use that RAM, you will need to add RAM to PC-10 board.

I had modified an extra NES I had to play Vs. System games, had to do some slight modifications to the board (DIP switch support, extra RAM, other things I forgot...)

Also getting Dual system games to communicate between each other will require shared RAM between the two boards. If you want to go that direction have fun running wires all over the place.
 
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