Virtual pins

DPtwiz

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So what's your thoughts on Virtual Pinballs? I've seen a few places selling them, i've even done the cabinet for one. I know it's not the same as a real one, but i think they have thier place, kinda like the 60-1's. What's the cheapest anyone has seen one sell for? I'm talking a 42" lcd widebody type. I may be getting into these in the coming year
 
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This was the first one i made. I wasn't happy with the way the head attached to the base. The 19" for the DMD was mounted in the lower cab, and stuck up into the head, no way to fold it up at all. Pretty sure there's a way to use a real DMD with virtual pinball, i'll be going that route on the next one. Probably TZ art on it too.
 
I think I might like to have one of these DP, what are you planning on using - Visual or Future? Doing a little research here.
 
My plan is Visual, i need to do a little more research myself! All the good tables modeled from real pins is in Visual. Lots of vids on youtube, search on there for visual pinball cabinet. Some really nice stuff out there. I hope to be able to afford to keep one at some point lol.
 
I took the one I built apart. Some games were good but many were not. Physics were off and lots of flipper lag or inconsistancy for many games. Its not the real thing and really suffers if beside the real thing. Still fun. A mean game of Flash Gordon or High Speed is not the same. STNG, Black Knight, and MM are all good though. Some of the Future Pinball games are also good like the custom Superman with video and the Star wars games. The analog plunger controller really was flakey too so just go with a button. Hyper pin did not seem stable exiting or entering games also. Ideally if you can pick a standard decased TV (where on button stays on), use a real pinball display size for score it should be decent. The current sellers are way over priced for a hobby pin.

Michael
 
I'm in the process of building one out of a gutted Data East Playboy 35th cabinet I picked up off of Craigslist. Hoping the PC version The Pinball Arcade gets green lit on Steam so I can run that but if not it will be visual/PinMAME and future pinball with the HyperPin frontend.

Not a replacement for the real thing at all but a fun winter project. DPtwiz if I need a panel cut for my backbox can you make it happen?
 
I am trying to install this blasted thing and check it out. Can't figure out how to load in the other tables. Dammit! It only wants a .vbt file. Watching a very WINDY video on youtube trying to figure this thing out.
Go to THIS particular site and it's only 10$..like if you go to McDonalds how much is that? Just supersize everything and...blah frakin blah blah
 
A member here has had his at the NW Pinball & Arcade show (shameless plug) and I have played it a few times. It kinda cool, but I would rather have any 1 pinball machine than a virtual pin. - Barry
 
So what's your thoughts on Virtual Pinballs? I've seen a few places selling them, i've even done the cabinet for one. I know it's not the same as a real one, but i think they have thier place, kinda like the 60-1's. What's the cheapest anyone has seen one sell for? I'm talking a 42" lcd widebody type. I may be getting into these in the coming year

I think they are pretty cool, how much to build one? I know lcd prices have dropped.
 
I must have fiddled with that Visual Pinball for a couple hours. Still not right. I'm thinking it's not just one program, it's like 2 or 3 of them trying to all work together. I think you have to have Pinball mame, Visual Pinball, an entire CPU inside with added Fonts..but the weirdest thing was that it would only display to to bottom on my screen, not side-to-side and there didn't appear to be any options to get it to scroll the length of your screen.
Going to look at some of these Hyperpins Im seeing.
 
If you stick to 20 - 30 really good tables it could be close to the real thing. But you have to get used to the feel. Perhaps the new 8 core CPUs could help with an SSD, real score displays and really tight switches for flipper buttons. I shimmed the micros to make the response time faster. I would like to play the one Druid built as his was over the top.
Michael
 
ugh. Gawd I've looked this thing over through HyperPin, Visual Pinball, Pinmame and God knows what else and it looks to me to be just one big PITA. Not impressed at all with the implementation of it so far.
One of the problems is it's completely controlled by two sites that restrict downloads heavily unless you spend money with them I suppose. And just to get it up to test, requires registration on 2 or 3 sites, a 24 hour period because your only allowed 5 downloads I think a day on one site. The other site lets you download 1 file every minute or so and times you. Installing upwards of 4 programs, then configuring them....ugh.
Goodnight.
 
Awesome build thread, very helpful. I've got a 37" Visio on the way for my cabinet. I'm also planning to use that 28" Hannspree basketball TV for my backglass.
 
ugh. Gawd I've looked this thing over through HyperPin, Visual Pinball, Pinmame and God knows what else and it looks to me to be just one big PITA. Not impressed at all with the implementation of it so far.
One of the problems is it's completely controlled by two sites that restrict downloads heavily unless you spend money with them I suppose. And just to get it up to test, requires registration on 2 or 3 sites, a 24 hour period because your only allowed 5 downloads I think a day on one site. The other site lets you download 1 file every minute or so and times you. Installing upwards of 4 programs, then configuring them....ugh.
Goodnight.
So, what exactly is your issue? I'm one of the developers of HyperPin and admin of the HyperSpin/HyperPin website. Yes, the site requires registration as it's a community driven project and downloads are restricted to throttle downloads. Our supporting/donating members do not have any download restrictions as they are helping pay our $600 per month hosting.

As far as installing, HyperPin, Visual Pinball and PinMAME is fairly simple and straight forward. Install Visual Pinball, then install PinMAME and set the paths up correctly in the PinMAME setup. Once you have Visual Pinball and PinMAME installed and confirmed working then you can work on setting up HyperPin. Setting up HyperPin is basically unzipping it into a folder, open the settings.ini. This file is located in the Settings folder. Then edit the settings.ini in a text editor to setup your file paths for Visual Pinball. There really isn't much more to it... getting Visual Pinball and PinMAME working together is the main thing to focus on. Follow the tutorial for VP/VPM first, located here.

As far as digital pins... I'm an advocate for them. However, I know that a digital machine can NEVER beat a real machine. Unfortunately, people, like myself, are limited in funds or space or both. Since I am limited on space a digital machine made sense. I have access to over 200 machines at my fingertips, I can practice for tournament or use it to brush up on machine rules before playing the real machine.

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i hate to admit it, but i couldn't get it to run either. I will follow your guide posted above and try to get mine fired up! I do appreciate your input and help for me and Zin!! I am the same way, limited space and funds. I've been making new cabinets for almost 5 years and i still haven't been able to make myself one.

The triple monitor setup will give me fits i'm sure, i'm just not a computer savvy guy.
 
So, what exactly is your issue? I'm one of the developers of HyperPin and admin of the HyperSpin/HyperPin website. Yes, the site requires registration as it's a community driven project and downloads are restricted to throttle downloads. Our supporting/donating members do not have any download restrictions as they are helping pay our $600 per month hosting.

As far as installing, HyperPin, Visual Pinball and PinMAME is fairly simple and straight forward. Install Visual Pinball, then install PinMAME and set the paths up correctly in the PinMAME setup. Once you have Visual Pinball and PinMAME installed and confirmed working then you can work on setting up HyperPin. Setting up HyperPin is basically unzipping it into a folder, open the settings.ini. This file is located in the Settings folder. Then edit the settings.ini in a text editor to setup your file paths for Visual Pinball. There really isn't much more to it... getting Visual Pinball and PinMAME working together is the main thing to focus on. Follow the tutorial for VP/VPM first, located here.

As far as digital pins... I'm an advocate for them. However, I know that a digital machine can NEVER beat a real machine. Unfortunately, people, like myself, are limited in funds or space or both. Since I am limited on space a digital machine made sense. I have access to over 200 machines at my fingertips, I can practice for tournament or use it to brush up on machine rules before playing the real machine.

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Thanks for this post! I have to admit that Pin 2K cabinet is pretty cool, I hope it wasn't a real cabinet though.
 
So, what exactly is your issue? I'm one of the developers of HyperPin and admin of the HyperSpin/HyperPin website. Yes, the site requires registration as it's a community driven project and downloads are restricted to throttle downloads. Our supporting/donating members do not have any download restrictions as they are helping pay our $600 per month hosting.

As far as installing, HyperPin, Visual Pinball and PinMAME is fairly simple and straight forward. Install Visual Pinball, then install PinMAME and set the paths up correctly in the PinMAME setup. Once you have Visual Pinball and PinMAME installed and confirmed working then you can work on setting up HyperPin. Setting up HyperPin is basically unzipping it into a folder, open the settings.ini. This file is located in the Settings folder. Then edit the settings.ini in a text editor to setup your file paths for Visual Pinball. There really isn't much more to it... getting Visual Pinball and PinMAME working together is the main thing to focus on. Follow the tutorial for VP/VPM first, located here.

As far as digital pins... I'm an advocate for them. However, I know that a digital machine can NEVER beat a real machine. Unfortunately, people, like myself, are limited in funds or space or both. Since I am limited on space a digital machine made sense. I have access to over 200 machines at my fingertips, I can practice for tournament or use it to brush up on machine rules before playing the real machine.

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I haven't looked at your guide yet but I watched a couple youtube videos and they all were directing me to VPforums.org - and there is a subscription unto themselves as well in order to download the needed utilities and tools. I then on a whim jumped to HyperPin. I watched your HyperSpin video and....did you ever play EVE online? I swear the guy on there sounded just like a former comrade I had on EVE online. Very funny guy. But after attempting then to put this all together I then discovered that there was also a subscription option which would open up more frequent (table downloads) download. But I didn't see any roms available there either. And I noticed there were only 3 (ABC) available or listed tables only got to like maybe in the C's. Where I was looking for Haunted House or somesuch.
I will look at your guide and maybe try again. But it'd sure be nice to not jump between 3 or 4 different programs for setting this all up to work in orchestration. I understand that is out of your hands, but it makes it worse when there's multiple sites you have to go (I ended up with a taskbar full of open windows) to. I ended up with like 3 tables, none of which I could play anything. And for some reason the HLGlass exe did nothing but black screen me...not sure what that even is.
The whole experience left me very frustrated and confused. Maybe it's an old guy thing. :)
 
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