Vector Color Monitor Tempest replacement

[realityst]

I plan to buy a tempest machine from a friend and I would like to install a new tube in it.

Does anyone sell the vector color monitor tubes for games like tempest. From what I have read no one makes them anymore. I am not interested the deflections boards or any of that just the tube.

Thanks in advance

 

[tron guy]

Quick answer:

Nope

 

[andrewb]

There aren't any drop-in replacement tubes for a 6100, aside from the 19VLUP22 they came with, as they are a 100-degree tube, and most tubes are 90 degree. You might find someone selling an original one very occasionally, but expect to pay many hundreds plus, if you are able to catch one, as they are pretty rare to come up.

There is a guy on FB who has designed a replacement boardset that can be used along with most TV tubes, to make a vector monitor. However it requires hand-rewinding the yoke, to make it a vector style yoke, which is different from a raster yoke. Google Arcade Jason, who has vids about it. He also was selling rewound yokes, which you might be able to use to convert a 90-degree tube for use with a 6100 boardset, but you would have to contact Jason about that.

The FB group belongs to Fred Konopaska, who designed the repro boardset, and is called 'Vectrex , XY and Vector monitors The Technical Side'. It's a closed group, but anyone can join.

 

[realityst]

There aren't any drop-in replacement tubes for a 6100, aside from the 19VLUP22 they came with, as they are a 100-degree tube, and most tubes are 90 degree. You might find someone selling an original one very occasionally, but expect to pay many hundreds plus, if you are able to catch one, as they are pretty rare to come up.

There is a guy on FB who has designed a replacement boardset that can be used along with most TV tubes, to make a vector monitor. However it requires hand-rewinding the yoke, to make it a vector style yoke, which is different from a raster yoke. Google Arcade Jason, who has vids about it. He also was selling rewound yokes, which you might be able to use to convert a 90-degree tube for use with a 6100 boardset, but you would have to contact Jason about that.

The FB group belongs to Fred Konopaska, who designed the repro boardset, and is called 'Vectrex , XY and Vector monitors The Technical Side'. It's a closed group, but anyone can join.

I have a vectorvga box, but I have a feeling the quality will not be like a true vector monitor. It may be fun trying this vector tv tube swap, but again I don't see this matching the awesomeness that the vector monitors provide

 

[andrewb]

The VectorVGA won't match a real vector CRT.

If you tube swap and rewind a yoke with your original 6100 boards, and manage to get everything dialed in, it should be as good as an original tube, but it isn't an exact science.

Some here have tried and done it successfully, and others have had difficulties getting convergence and geometry adjusted fully. It's an analog system that you'd be hand-modifying, so there are a lot of factors, on top of the tube and yoke you start with.

 

[ArcadeJason]

I have a vectorvga box, but I have a feeling the quality will not be like a true vector monitor. It may be fun trying this vector tv tube swap, but again I don't see this matching the awesomeness that the vector monitors provide

vector vga is a down grade for these reasons

#1 it is only capable of a 800 X 600 resolution atari vectors are 1024 X 1024
#2 the intense contrast ratio of a real vector monitor is lost
#3 lag time (the display you see is a delayed picture of the games output)

i am not a fan at all the only upside i see if the availability of lcd monitors

 

[realityst]

VgaVector

vector vga is a down grade for these reasons

#1 it is only capable of a 800 X 600 resolution atari vectors are 1024 X 1024
#2 the intense contrast ratio of a real vector monitor is lost
#3 lag time (the display you see is a delayed picture of the games output)

i am not a fan at all the only upside i see if the availability of lcd monitors

That's three strikes. Lag time would frustrate me

 

[Terry68Firebird]

I plan to buy a tempest machine from a friend and I would like to install a new tube in it.

Does anyone sell the vector color monitor tubes for games like tempest. From what I have read no one makes them anymore. I am not interested the deflections boards or any of that just the tube.

Thanks in advance

what is in the tempest now? are you looking to tube swap or need a full vector chasiss set up?

 

[realityst]

what is in the tempest now? are you looking to tube swap or need a full vector chasiss set up?

I haven't climbed inside it. Just recognized screen burn. So just the tube.

 

[Jamesv833]

I haven't climbed inside it. Just recognized screen burn. So just the tube.

I wouldn't be too worried about screen burn, the tinted glass should hide it pretty well.

 

[VectorCollector]

Vector burn is not bad burn. Typically does not affect the visuals at all.
Raster burn, however, that can be an issue and bothersome.

OP (or his friend) needs to power up the Tempest, play it and prove this to himself.

 

[HighScoreSaves]

All vector games need to be in a landfill....at least in Canada....

 

[VectorCollector]

... bunch of cabaret hoarders ...

 

[HighScoreSaves]

... bunch of cabaret hoarders ...

Super secret negative rep coming

 

[Braido]

Vector burn is not bad burn. Typically does not affect the visuals at all.
Raster burn, however, that can be an issue and bothersome.

OP (or his friend) needs to power up the Tempest, play it and prove this to himself.

Unless the spot killer burns a hole in the phosphor

 

[VectorCollector]

arizona still sucks monkey balls ...

Super secret negative rep coming

We will not be silenced. LOL

Unless the spot killer burns a hole in the phosphor

Depends on the relative size of the center dot and the particular game. Also depends upon how OCD the owner is ...

 

[demogo]

Vector burn is not bad burn. Typically does not affect the visuals at all.
Raster burn, however, that can be an issue and bothersome.

OP (or his friend) needs to power up the Tempest, play it and prove this to himself.

Yes, this. I bought a spare G08 and was dismayed to see burn on the tube. But you can't see it when the game is powered on.

 

[HighScoreSaves]

Yes, this. I bought a spare G08 and was dismayed to see burn on the tube. But you can't see it when the game is powered on.

Usually the burn is on the chassis, not the tube


That's right folks, I'll be here all week. Tip your waitress VectorCollector

 

[VectorCollector]

Yes, this. I bought a spare G08 and was dismayed to see burn on the tube. But you can't see it when the game is powered on.

REP'd

Usually the burn is on the chassis, not the tube


That's right folks, I'll be here all week. Tip your waitress VectorCollector

Not REP'd.