Today's Update.
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Chad's Thread: Yes, Hudson(Mark) helped junk the thread. He was by no means the only one. 'Mark H' brought up the 'China Story' first, so the two worked as kind of a volleyball Team. And of course other people responded, some non-gracefully. Board Policy #1: Don't attack other users and don't poison threads.
I thought about a one to three day ban for one or more participants, but it brought up other issues. The magic question is what is the best response to thread poisoning in general to serve the primary purpose, which isn't to extract punishment, but to discourage repeat non-desirable behavior. There is of course the well known temporary ban. There are also 'infraction points' built into this forum system. Infraction points can be temporary or permanent. Get enough at one time and you have a ban. We have given out a few already, but they have all been temporary--that is, they expire and disappear after some time period. If we started issuing permanent ones, we almost need to declare what they really mean, so people understand whether or not they have any meaning...any teeth (Does x amount of them equal a long term temporary or permanent ban?).
Another factor with infraction points is whether to make them or any other action public or private. There are some advantages of making them private, though if private some other people might think that so and so got away with some unnecessarily bad behavior...
So some of these issues have slowed down my response to the thread. The thread has been pruned. I also asked both Mark S. and Chad what Mark H's role is in all this but got no real answer (as such, I just asked Mark H.).
So this matter is still pending. People involved will hear from me again. The rest of the board may or may not.
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Lost Password/Signup Email Problems: SBCGlobal, ATT, Charter?
Non-board demands have prevented me from dealing with a whole lot of board issues. What time I have had has been pretty much dedicated to what I'll call customer service issues, most of which have been lost password issues.
We just moved the www.klov.com and www.arcade-museum.com web site to a new server 2 weeks ago (+/-). We soon discovered that aol.com was blocking our mail, including signup validation email and lost password email. It turns out that AOL is now automatically blocking email from ANY ip address that doesn't have a history of sending to AOL. Figuring this out took a while. AOL removed the block and one problem was fixed.
The last few days we have had a lot of people with tech support issues from essentially the AT&T network (att, sbcglobal.net, prodigy, etc.). It turns out AT&T was doing the same thing. We asked AT&T WTF and they said tonight that 'We will fix it in the next 24 to 48 hours'.
If you or anyone else you know is having password problems on the site and they are on the ATT/sgcglobal network they have two options (1) wait 2 days and see if the problem is fixed), or (2) sign up or lost password on www.webmagic.com/accounts/ to bypass the problem.
There are intermittent reports that the same thing is happening with comcast customers but we are definitely getting different data points here...
With all these problem ISPs, the symptons are the same. KLOV/IAM/VAPS/WebMagic sends an email, and you don't get it (and it doesn't show up in your spam box).
Welcome to the Internet 2009.
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Additional Game Entries in KLOV/IAM/VAPS
I'm getting requests to add such and such a game to VAPS. Instead of taking time to manually add single game entries in, I'd prefer to focus on upgrades to the entire KLOV/IAM/VAPS system that would make all types of updates easier. That work continues.
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Scripts/PHP/MySQL/Volunteers
Speaking of site upgrades. I've got one volunteer who is willing to help with some PHP scripts (but has not started). Are there any other volunteers out there able and interested in helping with PHP/MySQL work? projects include all areas of KLOV/IAM/VAPS, including manual management, game records and submissions (a biggie), and some knew special projects (ie: matching up klov records to mame records and comparing data).
If anyone wants to help, please send me a PM.
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EM Gun Game Parts.
At least three people have PMed me about trouble with getting in touch with Jack G. regarding EM gun game parts. You should all expect a PM from me in the next 3 days. If you don't get one, email me.
That pretty much covers it tonight.
Greg
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Chad's Thread: Yes, Hudson(Mark) helped junk the thread. He was by no means the only one. 'Mark H' brought up the 'China Story' first, so the two worked as kind of a volleyball Team. And of course other people responded, some non-gracefully. Board Policy #1: Don't attack other users and don't poison threads.
I thought about a one to three day ban for one or more participants, but it brought up other issues. The magic question is what is the best response to thread poisoning in general to serve the primary purpose, which isn't to extract punishment, but to discourage repeat non-desirable behavior. There is of course the well known temporary ban. There are also 'infraction points' built into this forum system. Infraction points can be temporary or permanent. Get enough at one time and you have a ban. We have given out a few already, but they have all been temporary--that is, they expire and disappear after some time period. If we started issuing permanent ones, we almost need to declare what they really mean, so people understand whether or not they have any meaning...any teeth (Does x amount of them equal a long term temporary or permanent ban?).
Another factor with infraction points is whether to make them or any other action public or private. There are some advantages of making them private, though if private some other people might think that so and so got away with some unnecessarily bad behavior...
So some of these issues have slowed down my response to the thread. The thread has been pruned. I also asked both Mark S. and Chad what Mark H's role is in all this but got no real answer (as such, I just asked Mark H.).
So this matter is still pending. People involved will hear from me again. The rest of the board may or may not.
---
Lost Password/Signup Email Problems: SBCGlobal, ATT, Charter?
Non-board demands have prevented me from dealing with a whole lot of board issues. What time I have had has been pretty much dedicated to what I'll call customer service issues, most of which have been lost password issues.
We just moved the www.klov.com and www.arcade-museum.com web site to a new server 2 weeks ago (+/-). We soon discovered that aol.com was blocking our mail, including signup validation email and lost password email. It turns out that AOL is now automatically blocking email from ANY ip address that doesn't have a history of sending to AOL. Figuring this out took a while. AOL removed the block and one problem was fixed.
The last few days we have had a lot of people with tech support issues from essentially the AT&T network (att, sbcglobal.net, prodigy, etc.). It turns out AT&T was doing the same thing. We asked AT&T WTF and they said tonight that 'We will fix it in the next 24 to 48 hours'.
If you or anyone else you know is having password problems on the site and they are on the ATT/sgcglobal network they have two options (1) wait 2 days and see if the problem is fixed), or (2) sign up or lost password on www.webmagic.com/accounts/ to bypass the problem.
There are intermittent reports that the same thing is happening with comcast customers but we are definitely getting different data points here...
With all these problem ISPs, the symptons are the same. KLOV/IAM/VAPS/WebMagic sends an email, and you don't get it (and it doesn't show up in your spam box).
Welcome to the Internet 2009.
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Additional Game Entries in KLOV/IAM/VAPS
I'm getting requests to add such and such a game to VAPS. Instead of taking time to manually add single game entries in, I'd prefer to focus on upgrades to the entire KLOV/IAM/VAPS system that would make all types of updates easier. That work continues.
---
Scripts/PHP/MySQL/Volunteers
Speaking of site upgrades. I've got one volunteer who is willing to help with some PHP scripts (but has not started). Are there any other volunteers out there able and interested in helping with PHP/MySQL work? projects include all areas of KLOV/IAM/VAPS, including manual management, game records and submissions (a biggie), and some knew special projects (ie: matching up klov records to mame records and comparing data).
If anyone wants to help, please send me a PM.
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EM Gun Game Parts.
At least three people have PMed me about trouble with getting in touch with Jack G. regarding EM gun game parts. You should all expect a PM from me in the next 3 days. If you don't get one, email me.
That pretty much covers it tonight.
Greg
