Will this work with a rPI 4? If not I'll hold out for a bit to see when rPI 3b+ come back in stock (mid 2022), dont feel like paying $100 for a rPI 3 when I have a couple 4's already.
Unofficial Pi Position Q&A & Support Thread
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the reason it will not work on the rpi4 is because of a glitch in the usb polling speed. in other words steering will not work some day it might be addressed at the time i didn't care because the pi3b was cheaper
Got my Pi Position set up and running. After some monitor adjustments, it Played great for a while other than the foot pedal was "full-on" even if I just barely pushed it, so it was either stop or full throttle, not a huge deal because that is how I play anyway. Suddenly when I powered the game back on after being powered off for a while, it would no longer coin up when I put a coin in. When I dropped a coin in the coin slot on the machine coin drops into the coin bucket but doesn't register a credit. I finally went into settings and put it on free play just so I could play, but now no controls work. No steering or gas pedal. I just sit at the start line. Anyone have any ideas? All was working fine when I turned the machine off, then when I turned it back on no controls worked. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
jbyrdhbyrd
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If you figure this out can you give some detailed instructions? I am line of code dumb.
I updated it with the newer image file earlier... how do i just update firmware?
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the new file is called pp_joy4r2.ino install arduino select leonardo as the device
drive.google.com
^^^firmware update^^^
piposition update - Google Drive
drive.google.com
^^^firmware update^^^
Since my coin mechanisms have been taken. I installed the coin switch but I can't get the game to coin up. Can this be set to free play? Or is there something I may have done wrong? So far game boots and I can switch back and forth fromPP1 and PP2. Help!
thegarse
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Just about ready to jump into this project after receiving the unit from arcadeshop (finding a pi wasn't fun but that's a different story, also a 16GB card isn't big enough for the unzipped 2021updaterev2 image, 32GB worked fine). Voltage on my AR2s is at 4.99 and I'm currently working on undoing my bulletproof mod so I can get this installed. Wish me luck! 
Ordered a 16gb sd card for this and realized it was around 40mb too small for this image when I tried to write the img to it. Used a PiShrink program (https://github.com/Drewsif/PiShrink) and it reduced down to 2.89GB and it is supposed to expand to fill the partition on boot. Just a warning though I haven't tried it to make sure the shrunken version works as I'm waiting for a Pi 3b+ in the mail. The safe bet is to use a 32gb sd card instead of a 16gb card.
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OK, Jason said a 16g would be fine. However, when I use it I have no steering, pedal or shifter. I'm assuming the card was too small and all the software was not uploaded. I'll try the 32g card. Thanks for the heads up.
thegarse
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Everything is working after a few tweaks.
Gas wasn't responding so I flipped the outer cables on the pot.
Overscan tinkering is a must if you have any black borders. I changed it to all zeros (left right top bottom) and went backwards from there.
With your usb keyboard, use the triple escape and save trick after flipping your analog dial settings (if your steering is backwards) and when setting the credit option as well as the shifter switch for each game (hint: you can set up the shifter switch to be both the 1p start and main button - example in arkanoid you can use the shifter to start the game and use lasers, in out run you can start a game and use the PP shifter switch for both low and high gears).
Hitting the credit/service button gets old so you may want to add a momentary switch or do what I did and figure out a way to use your existing coin door holes/levers to act as a coin and another as credit.
Lastly play around with analog settings for each game. Adjusting these will make games that may seem unplayable, playable.
My only issues are video noise and some ground noise, mostly on PP and PP2, you also see imperfect video mid res or high res games. I also get error line 20 when switching games but I read in another post to ignore this so I have.
Hope this helps. (Sorry if pics are rotated - posting from phone)
Gas wasn't responding so I flipped the outer cables on the pot.
Overscan tinkering is a must if you have any black borders. I changed it to all zeros (left right top bottom) and went backwards from there.
With your usb keyboard, use the triple escape and save trick after flipping your analog dial settings (if your steering is backwards) and when setting the credit option as well as the shifter switch for each game (hint: you can set up the shifter switch to be both the 1p start and main button - example in arkanoid you can use the shifter to start the game and use lasers, in out run you can start a game and use the PP shifter switch for both low and high gears).
Hitting the credit/service button gets old so you may want to add a momentary switch or do what I did and figure out a way to use your existing coin door holes/levers to act as a coin and another as credit.
Lastly play around with analog settings for each game. Adjusting these will make games that may seem unplayable, playable.
My only issues are video noise and some ground noise, mostly on PP and PP2, you also see imperfect video mid res or high res games. I also get error line 20 when switching games but I read in another post to ignore this so I have.
Hope this helps. (Sorry if pics are rotated - posting from phone)
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the new file is called pp_joy4r2.ino install arduino select leonardo as the device
piposition update - Google Drive
^^^firmware update
getting a Joystick.h no such file or directory?the new file is called pp_joy4r2.ino install arduino select leonardo as the device
piposition update - Google Drive
^^^firmware update^^^
Arduino: 1.8.18 (Windows 8.1), Board: "Arduino Leonardo"
pp_joy4r2:1:10: fatal error: Joystick.h: No such file or directory
#include <Joystick.h>
^~~~~~~~~~~~
compilation terminated.
exit status 1
Joystick.h: No such file or directory
This report would have more information with
"Show verbose output during compilation"
option enabled in File -> Preferences.
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jberkemeier
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Purchased a Pi Position via ArcadeShop and finally had some time to work with it last night.
Tried both the files posted in the YouTube link and the ones posted by linx310; but where I ended up was with steering but the gas/shifter not working. These both work with my PP1 board so I am hesitant to change too much around.
Also have some monitor issues, but those have been secondary to the control issues.
I am assuming that since I got my board from ArcadeShop that the firmware update shouldn't be a factor?
Tried both the files posted in the YouTube link and the ones posted by linx310; but where I ended up was with steering but the gas/shifter not working. These both work with my PP1 board so I am hesitant to change too much around.
Also have some monitor issues, but those have been secondary to the control issues.
I am assuming that since I got my board from ArcadeShop that the firmware update shouldn't be a factor?
I purchased my board from Jason. I uploaded the software off the you tube page/link. When I unzipped the file it said a file was corrupt. I wrote the file to the sd card anyway and it said successful. I installed everything in the game and I have no steering, pedal or shifter. I can switch between games. I switched the pedal to reverse and I only have full throttle. I don't think the coin switch works either I had to set it to free play.
Very frustrated ....
I have a working PP2 board and everything works when I use the original board.
I haven't received a response form Jason yet.
is there a trick to running the firmware update?... because It wont even verify the sketch without error for me currently
I haven't been able to do the firmware update also.
I had a very similar experience with mine. I spent so much time trying to make this board work. Eventually, frustration got the better of me and wound up putting my original working board back in. Let us know if you figure this out.
Rxx1
Member
I have run into the same scenario, I also have no steering, pedal or shifter. I can switch between games. I am able to switch the pedal to reverse which will give me only full throttle as actuating the peddle has no effect. The coin switch doesn't work for me either which is less of an issue for me as I prefer free play. @Salerno2442 - I may have missed this in the thread, had you tried to use the 32gb card?
I am having the same no inputs to the pi Position. I need to try a new usb cable but I have tried two already with no change. I also have not been able to get the Arduino to update.
Rxx1
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My next step is to try another USB cable, I have seen another person changed the USB port they were plugged into on the raspberry pi which helped them - this did not help me however, but it is easy enough to try - it might help you.
