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All current repro parts for SW, 720, FF, etc on eBay and etsy are RAM parts, imo.
i think the 720 kits were acquired before the scamming and all the other parts were acquired after.
Does "pre-scam" or "post-scam" make a difference? RAM parts are RAM parts...the ban seems to be "Under no circumstances will any RAM Controls parts be allowed for sale here"
It means under NO circumstances, N O N E.
Due to the many people who have been taken advantage of, from this point forward, absolutely NO RAM Controls parts are allowed for sale on this forum, period. From Me to todays latest signup, no one is allowed to sell them here.
Not my circus, not my monkeys.
Carry on.
What's the reasoning behind this?
These parts are a cancer to the community.
A bit eccentric, don't you think?
The parts are the parts, they either work or they don't. The seller is the cancer.
Like whores chasing gold bars.....I don't think there is a KLOVer on this forum that would hesitate to use a working RAM controls part on their project if it meant getting their machine working.....just being real here.
If you want to help the community, and fight the cancer that is RAM controls, then do the community a service, and write up a detailed post, in a new thread, to educate people about the history of RAM, who he is, what he did, etc, with as many specifics as possible. Most people here are newer than most of the RAM story, and don't have the perspective that most veterans have.
Then create a list of all of the known parts RAM has created, with pics, and explanations for how to identify these parts from originals, so people know exactly what to look for.
Otherwise, sending people to educate themselves about things they don't know to look for will be partially effective at best, and that's being generous. (And yes, I am aware KLOV has a forum specifically for RAM, but the information is still spread out, and most of it old, and would be easier for people to consume if a current synopsis was provided.)
Banning the sale of these parts, with no information or guidelines to help the majority of people who are newer than most of the RAM saga, doesn't actually help fight the cancer, but only frustrates people, and pushes the problem into someone else's backyard, as the parts will continue to be sold (and people potentially scammed) elsewhere. (And maybe that's good enough for your purposes, but it helps to be clear about your goals.)