This MUSEUM BUSINESS....answers

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Warning….this is a long read. You might want to get a Starbucks before this one:

Why a Museum now? And will it be what I've been saying it'll be?

Since I've been whoring the forums recently, I DO owe an explanation as to this museum business. In all fairness, even with that being said, it doesn't prove that we're opening a museum...but we are indeed doing this and this might help. And when the private Villas are ready, KLOV members will definitely have a huge discount to stay in and play the video games.

We own the one the largest catering companies in Texas and many other restaurants. They include The Hill Country Pasta House in Austin (land only now), two Fajita Flats and one Live Oak Grill in Houston, etc. We just closed the Indian Restaurant below.

http://www.hillcountrypasta.com/
http://www.fajitaflats.com/index.htm
www.bellaterrazza.com
www.thechefstable.com
www.msindian.com

We also own part a scrub brush company that supplies scrub cleaning equipment to McDonalds, etc. It's basically a floor scrub brush, but imagine putting a 25# barbell on top of your floor brush….then scrubbing; ten times more effective.

http://theheavyweight.com/

People have tried to do something like this museum concept in the past. I researched it. But the attempts were sophomoric at best, and usually under funded. Having a collection of old video games, albeit a large one, doesn't necessarily mean anybody wants to pay to see them. Hell, some of you guy's collections and décor concepts in current basements are mind-boggling. But the concept by itself will fail. Sorry….that's a fact. I looked into it. One of my very friends OPENED the original Dave & Busters, working for Dave directly. He told me that even Dave originally kept a room with a lot of the classics, but got tired of seeing tumbleweeds blowing through it. However this same friend told me that Dave didn't present them in this fashion.

First of all, if somebody is going to try and pull this off, it has to have a WOW factor. And a large collection will only be a "one-joke-restaurant". Kind of like the Rain Forrest Café's…gee that was neat…once. To do it right, someone must go ALL THE WAY and make it a definitive collection…to the point where it is a museum….period. A half-ass attempt on this will be futile. And one must have other things to attract people to this with MULTIPLE STEAMS OF REVENUE. Alcohol, food, and possibly….private Villas on a lake with a swim-up bar under a waterfall?!! Sounds better, doesn't it. By just adding those things, I've transformed into a destination place for a family…..almost. But ironically that's NOT part of our revenue model (wouldn't hurt though).

So how are WE going to make money? You see, we specialize in weddings, to which we do five per weekend in our current building, The Bella Terrazza. The museum will be located behind our main new building being built, the Tuscany:

http://www.fullcontactwar.com/personal_dir/Dan/Tuscany.pdf

All told, this will be a $7,000,000.00 project.

We will make our money on the banquets: food and beverage, DJ rentals, flowers, rehearsal dinners, the Villas, etc. There will be a restaurant on premise as well, although I'm betting that will be a loss-leader. In other words, are using the games as what's called a "loss-leader"....we don't NEED tomake money on them.

We're trying to go after corporate retreats as well as weddings. That's where a company will fly in and book all fifty rooms and schedule weeklong meetings, etc. Well, we only have 4 1/2 acres in the middle of Houston, so we can't attract people with a jogging trail, Tennis courts, Racquetball courts, golf course, etc. So I had to make a decision. We could spend $80,000-$100,000 on a Tennis court and let 2-4 people enjoy that space and investment or spend that on a bunch of video games and have 200-400 enjoy them at the same time.

And I've never heard of hotels making a little extra money now and then off of their tennis courts….we will.

Secondly, we can attract local corporates there for that reason (like Dave & Busters) during the week. Inevitably, some CEO tells his secretary that when they book their function, they want someplace fun. Where are 80 people going to go....to a movie?

Thirdly, we have plans to go after the gaming conventions and sponsored LAN parties that are held every year. And during the summer, it's slow…we'll be cutting deals.

Lastly, as for the name, we HAVE to couch it as a "museum", and it indeed will be THE museum of record (hopefully). Our brides in the Tuscany spend $10,000-$80,000 in four hours. That kind of bride DOES NOT want to have her wedding next to a Carnival/Dave & Busters. If you take a look at that Tuscany link, you'll understand.

Now, we have several other things going for us:
A. We will not have rent…we own the property….that's a huge expense. Even the water's free…it's run on a water well.
B. We will have a continuous rotating clientele. The weekends will be booked by 100-140 out-of-towners EVERY weekend for the weddings. The guests will be locked up in the Villa compound with nothing to do except the wedding. And the wedding is free, so they will have PLENTY of disposable income. That being said, we are not relying on walk-in traffic as income. This concept would fail if that was the revenue model.

So with those unique circumstances, I thinking that this might be the ONLY museum of it's kind….EVER.

And I forgot the two most important reasons.

A. The arcade video games now are following the Hollywood mentality of flash over substance. Hey, throw a big screen and a lot of high-graphic shooting dazzle and that'll give you a quick return on investment. Sensory overload!! There's no replayability in them any more. In the 6502 days, they HAD to make them fun because nobody got a woody solely over a yellow circle that looked like a pizza. (They're still having Pac-man tournaments 25 years later…that's amazing.)

B. I'm a big kid, and this is my retirement property. I'm building a Villa on the lake for myself, so there are personal reasons. This was a large part of my childhood, as was a lot of peoples'. And frankly, the whole genre has been relegated to basements and a living-room after-thought. I lament the fact that it doesn't exist anymore. The arcade was a multi-billion dollar social atmosphere and part of history, and deserves the respect that other museum items command. And hopefully, just hopefully people will finally appreciate the creativity, artwork, and special atmosphere that used to exist and understand why we call it "the golden-age of the arcade."
 
Dan,

That does sound great, I applaud you for attempting something like this. Someone should have done this years ago. Hell, if I had the money I most likely would have something like it.

And keep on being a whore (keeping us posted!)
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Brent
 
Didn't see a mention of the one in St. Louis. It was presented well, just the location turned into a bust. The landing isn't exactly high-traffic (at least not since the early 90s).
 
Nor has there been any mention of The American Classic Arcade Museum, a project I started in 1998 that is now displaying 248 pre-1987 games with about 100 more in storage. We are in the planning stages for a 6,000 square foot expansion to add to the 5,500 square feet we have now to give us some breathing room. We were the first arcade museum to have 501(c)3 status with the IRS which was a feat in itself since the IRS told me they had no precedent showing an arcade museum with this status.

Our group of volunteers and donors are the best and make the entire project a joy to be a part of. Every year we host a large classic game tournament in June which has drawn players from Israel, Finland, England, Canada and Australia. Just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents
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Dan, I wish you the best with your project and I'm sure you will greatly enjoy it.

Gary
 
Hate to say it dan but you're starting to come off as a touch arrogant to me
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You're not the first to incorporate games in a museum like setting.. nor will you be even close to the largest classic game collection publicly viewable and/or playable.. Funspot NH, Gary's Museum, Videotopia, Tim Arnold's all operate daily with more and rarer machines. I'm glad to see you making a go of what will be very tough.. fortunate that you're smart enough to realize the gaming museum is really a footnote and not the entire target market. I'd be very careful to assume you've got some magic formula that all the others before you haven't.. i've been involved in the high end of catering/weddings/special events for many years and can't say i'd be that brave.

Please don't take this as a flame, just somebody with a fair amount of experience offering some perspective.
 
Gary,
Looks like a wonderful setup...brings back memories of the arcades of the past....I have to visit that place really soon....Is there cost to get in...hours of operation..?
 
Wow Gary that's nice to see! Your place looks nice. And your web address is perfect too. Only this I can recommend is more pics of the games on the website.
 
I don't see arrogance here at all.... I see a guy that's been very successful in the restaurant business, is pretty savvy when it comes to structuring/planning a business. He's got the resources to pull this off but also the understanding that this museum won't be any cash cow.

I think titling it as a museum is fine. Like others have said there have been several attempts at arcade museums and several still exist today. Claiming that your museum will be the only one of its kind might be a bit stretched....but it IS the only one of its kind where you can celebrate nuptials, retreat, or just lounge in a serene environment with classic games nearby. Nothing wrong with that.

I see the arcade museum as an accent to a much larger plan -- it's just part of the package. It makes complete business sense to have that as a benefit to staying at the resort.

If I had a corporate retreat to plan, I'd certainly consider staying there.
 
Brent,
It's funny you mention that... I had a professional photographer in for two days this week taking pictures of Funspot and the entire museum. For those who may not know, the museum is located on the third floor of Funspot to take advantage of the established flow of customers.

I have never liked the pictures on the museum website because I took them with a 4 megapixel point and shoot camera. The entire museum website is going to get an overhaul and the new pictures will be uploaded after the studio has finished color correcting them. Our lighting is unique and very hard to photograph in a way that captures the mood of the room. Several of the shots had to be taken at two different exposures since some of the games in the foreground would overexpose and the ones further away would underexpose. The photographer is going to combine the images so everything will be at the correct exposure.

These new shots are mostly overviews of the room and photos down the aisles with a few closeups thrown in. In the future I want to have thumbnails of every game we have and the ability to click on them for a larger image. I get my website work donated so there will be a slight lag time before the thumbnails will appear.

Gary
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Please post here when the new pics are up.

Thanks,
 
The thing I don't understand is, if your going to have an arcade museum, then you won't be able to touch any of the games, just like any other museum, it's not like people can go around playing with the dinosaur bones at will, or open up glass cases and play with the dead sea scrolls. If your going to let people play them, then it's really just another classic arcade. Are your games going to be incased in glass or are they going to have red velvet ropes around them? If you let people play them, they won't last long, and they will need retoration before too long...I'm not trying to be negative, but that's reality...
 
Good point Flav..... I think the only thing that should be behind velvet ropes is Noice's CC.

Dave, you should consider that as a possible "side show" to your classic arcade. Since Noice is getting married, I'm sure he could use the $$ and his wife-to-be will probably begin to push for a Centipede, Galaga, and Tetris only game collection.
 
Damn Gary, that thing rocks!!! That's EXACTLY how it should be....even the webpage says it right. Considering your expansion, that's going to be alot larger than we're willing or able to be. Damn...I won't be able to say we'll be the DEFINITIVE museum/collection.

And you're truely doing a 501c! We considered going that direction, to the point of going after different government funds, but decided against it. I can't imagine the NIGHTMARE it would have been with the I.R.S. Plus, our business model will be too entangled with the rest of the business revenues, and we don't need THAT kind of scrutiny. I'm glad you posted that.

We're not going to have any pinball machines though...only video games.

You even have the glass case with the 2600 and such. LOL. I've already purchased some original mattel handheld basketball and football games to start that EXACT display.

I wonder if you guys have considered food and beverages....just a thought.

As for the arrogance? To state that I'm arrogant because I might not have knowledge of something in the marketplace?! I was merely stating a goal...not an accomplishment. I'm glad YOUR smart enough to know the difference with that. Look...take it for what it is and what we're trying to accomplish....nothing more. If what we're doing here is the largest in the US...fine....if not....fine. If it doesn't sound interesting to you, then don't show up. Somebody questioned the validity of it so I posted that.

As far as museum pieces you can interact, we've got three museums in Houston that do just that. The NASA Space museum is one of them. In fact, every museum struggles to extend any sort of interactive ideas with their displays....it's the crux of learning. I'm assuming Gary's museum allows using the arcades also. I can say this...if the dinosaur bones were indeed attached to a live animal, I don't think you would would want to play with them anyway.
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I'd think that he could have the history or something about each game or possibly the company who made them (since many rooms seem to be divided that way) posted on the walls and even allow tours of the whole place at certain times with opportunities to play the games at the end.

I'd think that could still qualify it as a museum.
 
Well, I just looked up those references. Videotopia only has 100+ games, and generally is a paid traveling exhibit. Tim Arnold's is a pinball collection. Funspot is Gary's museum and is the only TRUE concept that parellel's or exceded our goal (over 250 video games) that I'm aware of...I'm sure there's ALWAYS something else out there.

Yeah, we will be posting the ALL-TIME high-score on each game, as well as have a all kinds of history items and things.
 
Flava,
I understand where you are coming from about a museum being filled with things you cannot touch and this was a point I had to explain fully to the IRS in the beginning. Many museums are interactive now and although we do have some static displays, the heart and soul of our museum is it's ability to transport you back in time. All of the decor in the room is pre-1987 as well as the music that plays in the background. Another point we have been expanding upon is the educational aspect of video games and pinballs. Since the beginning we have been posting historical facts on the games that give people some background on the game or the people who designed it.

At some point when we have a restoration facility attached to the museum, I would like to start conducting tours for school groups. I was in the museum one Friday night and saw a kid and his mother taking pictures and writing in a notebook. The mother looked frustrated so I asked if they needed some help. Her son decided to do his school report on the arcade museum but his mom was concerned that he wasn't getting enough information. I spent about an hour taking them around and opening up games to explain how they work. I knew I was old when we opened Thief and I pointed at the cassette deck and the realized this was probably the first time this kid ever saw a cassette tape deck
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Our static displays are limited at the moment due to space constraints. As you can see in the few pictures we have on the website now that there is very little space between the games. We have more items boxed up in storage and hopefully the expansion will allow us the room we need to start displaying these items.

Dan,
Thank you for the kind words. Your facility looks impressive to say the least! I'll admit I was a skeptic at first when I saw your posts but it's clear now that you are for real. I wish you the best and I'm sure you will have a great time developing your project.

The 501(c)3 designation is nice but can sometimes limit what you can and cannot do. A nice facility with food & beverages would be great but would probably cross the line between non-profit musuem and a for profit business. We are fortunate that our accountant used to work for the State of New Hampshire Charitable Trusts Unit and really knows her stuff. She is great.

The museum is a lot of fun. My favorite part is seeing a person come in the door for the first time, turn the corner into the main section of the museum and just stop and stare with their jaw hanging down. That's when I know it is all worth it.

Thanks,
Gary
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Tim Arnold's Pinball Hall Of Fame does have status as a museum.

And for what it's worth, I play with my dinosaur bone all the time...
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Well, I just looked up those references. Videotopia only has 100+ games, and generally is a paid traveling exhibit.

No, VT typically only TRAVELS with 100 games. For those of us who've been inside the warehouse for game-time... there's a *LOT* more.
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I knew I was old when we opened Thief and I pointed at the cassette deck and the realized this was probably the first time this kid ever saw a cassette tape deck
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You should have opened up Two Tigers and showed him the 8-track!
 
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