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Thinking of buying ROWE AMI LaserStar CD100, opinions?

Hello all, very new to this, thinking of buying a ROWE AMI LaserStar CD100 jukebox. Opinions please?
I know this is a older machine, is that a problem?
How reliable are they?
Are parts available and how difficult are they to repair?
What is a great price with CDs and without?
Thanks Ike
 
What is the suffix of the model number you're getting?

Generically, the whole full sized Rowe CD juke line is called CD100.

The model number progression is:

CD100
CD100A
CD100B
CD100C
CD100D
CD100E

The current model is CD100L. The current CD player mechanism is a Phillips CDPRO2 in the jukebox.

If you have an early model such as CD100B and earlier, find out if it's had an updates/upgrades performed to it. If so, what upgrades?

All parts and manuals are available to purchase from authorized Rowe distributors. Rowe does not sell direct.

http://www.roweinternational.com/distributor_network.html
 
All the rowe boxes are very reliable. The CD100 are not necessarily the nicest looking ones but will work for a long time. A cd100 with cds loaded fully working in very good condition i wouldn't pay anymore then $400 for and that would be with cds i liked.

Me personally, I would rather spend the extra money and get an Eagle wallbox, a 100H, or a 100J. I think the J is the nicest one.
 
Thanks for the replies. It is a CD100 model number. I am not sure if it has been upgraded, will ask. What do you think of this model with regards to reliability and function? What if it has not been upgraded?

Definitely not the nicest looking, but price is an issue and not bad.

What does a Eagle wallbox, a 100H, or a 100J go for?

Thanks ike
 
$600-1200 for those I am interested in. Yeah the cd100 are reliable even without the upgrades. They can take a beating too.
 
A plain CD100 must have the magazine upgrade, power supply upgrade, and player upgrade to at least a CDPRO player. Also the mech control software version must be V5.3 or higher. The Central Control Computer (CCC) software should be version 3.9 or higher, but at a bare minimum should be version 3.2


You'll want to buy the "helper" lid support retrofit to keep the lid from hitting you on the head due to weak/shot gas struts. It's bright orange in color and it's part # 30956301. Only $4 from any Rowe distributor's parts department. Saves having to use a pool cue stick or broom handle everytime you want to get into the juke.

CD100 jukeboxes are keyed to key # C-092A from the factory.



Magazine upgrade:

http://arcarc.xmission.com/PDF_Jukebox/Rowe_AMI/Rowe_CD100_CD100A_CD51_HCD_Kit_21956101.pdf

Power supply upgrade (this document © 2007 Ken Layton):

http://arcarc.xmission.com/PDF_Juke...00_Power_Supply_Board_Upgrade_(609357-03).pdf

Upgrading a CDM3 player to CDM12/CDPRO/CDPRO2 player:

http://arcarc.xmission.com/PDF_Juke...lling_CDM12_in_a_CDM-3_CDM-4_Kit_66505907.pdf
 
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Yikes, much more complicated then I thought, but isn't the way it always turns out!!!

Ok so what is the general consciences, if it has no upgrade, is it a bust or if the price is right go for it?

What does the upgrades cost in parts and software??

Thanks again all!! I greatly appreciate the help. Ike

P.S.: What are the opinions on a NSM LASER HYPERBEAM JUKE BOX? Reliability? Value/cost with CDS?
 
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I tell ya, My CD100 (with CD Pro) takes a licking for being 20 years old.

It has some upgrades.

But If I were to pick out a juke based on Aesthetics, I'd go with a Rowe Saturn.

The blue one is cool
 
A friend has a CD100 he bought used real cheap years ago. I installed all the upgrades (including bill acceptor updates for the latest currency) and it runs flawlessly. It's on location in a tavern and has the latest copyright license. It's been in this location for six years now.
 
Smoking is not outlawed in my area yet. We just have to clean the cds often.

Ken... Why are you saying these updates are mandatory?

Yes, the saturns are beautiful.
 
Power supply upgrade improves it's operation and helps correct a problem where the voltage could damage the player. Power supply temperature stability is improved.

Magazine update applies to all early jukes that had the "wire basket" style cd magazine (like the Rowe 45 rpm vinyl jukes had). It was found this style scratched cd's quite a bit as the discs were removed/inserted by the gripper bow. The modern cd magazine has a more open design with a solid metal partion every fifth disc.

The CDPRO player kit replaces all previous Phillips players ( obsolete models CDM3, CDM4, CDM12). Kit comes with a bunch of new parts including a new mech control board.

Software upgrade to version 3.9 corrects program bugs/improves functionality and adds features to the audits/program menu/diagnostics as well as playing some troublesome discs better.

There are also some modifications/upgrades to do to the CCC and the harness to the CCC to prevent lockup conditions from occuring to the CCC. Early model CCC's did not have a 32 pin eprom socket for the software IC. The early software used a 28 pin chip. To upgrade the software you must install a 32 pin socket and remove the 28 pin socket.

Models from the CD100-C on forward already have many of the updates and are pretty bullet-proof. A "CD-100 plain" will need ALL of the updates to make it bullet-proof.
 
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Well lost out on the bidding. Thanks to all for the help. Will keep looking!! Anyone have a source for these jukeboxes in the NYC area?? Thanks again
 
Sorry you missed out on the bidding, but it is a hell of a jukebox. I have a CD-100 with no upgrades and I have never had a problem with it except for the DBV a few years ago. I still have the original player, and as long as I clean it is fine. I will check out some of Ken's suggestions for upgrades in case I ever have a problem. I did put a remote I found on eBay for real cheap and it soes a good job.
 
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