The EM Game Price Guide Is Live

Morning

Do I need to change settings on my iPad to see the full website ,the left side is cut off only part of the categories showed up
iPad 5th gen. Using Safari.
RJ

I don't have a lot of experience with these devices since i don't use them but I will have a look to see whats going on and get back with you. Thanks for letting me know.
 
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Here is a screen shot of what I am running into

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RJ
 

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Here is a screen shot of what I am running into

Thanks

RJ

Ok, I see what is going on now and your pic confirms this.. I had my wife show me what was going on her Ipad too. Same thing. I guess I must have changed the size of the width parameters of my website (looks normal on PC) or when I changed to the new HTML site from Flash perhaps the width got expanded. I remember I did have to change quite a few things because during the change over some items were out of place. I will get to work on this and see what I can fix. Apparently there is nothing on your end or adjustments to make so it looks like I have to resize it from side to side on my end. Hopefully it wont take me too long to fix. Thanks for letting me know.
 
Here is a screen shot of what I am running into

Thanks

RJ

Give it a try now and see how that works for ya. Looks like my side parameters were too large. I still have the Stimulators page to fix but everything else should be good for Ipad users now. Thanks
 
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Perfect thank you

RJ
 

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Perfect thank you

RJ

Now that things are looking good with site there are still some issues that im just finding out now that you may have run into. And I want to make clear these issues appear to be just related to those using Ipad's and possibly Ipod's.

The issues are with the EXCEL files specifically. I don't know if there is some incompatibility problem between Ipads and Microsoft Excel files or from something else. And at this point im not sure if it can be fixed. Anyone using PC desk top computers are fine. You see what I have recorded directly to Excel and everything works as it should. However, for Ipads you may run into these issues...

- many, if not all of the quick links are not working for either the daily tracking file and the ongoing and timed pinball auctions links.
- Red ticker information marks that I put in place to indicate information about a game or to indicate last game sales are not appearing on the tracking files or average price game index files.
- large space gaps between game listings.
- Information run over onto the quick links.

I will further investigate why this is happening and hopefully I can come up with the fixes.
 
Are you only compiling data from ebay sales?

I purchased a complete non working Midway 18 wheeler last year for $300.00.
 
Are you only compiling data from ebay sales?

I purchased a complete non working Midway 18 wheeler last year for $300.00.

Yes, that's correct. The main reason being is that I can document for everyone each and every sale between the buyer and seller giving the pricing confidence that said sale did happen and the true correct price is revealed for all.

The problem with private sales like if they happen here or somewhere else is I cannot independently prove or document when or if they happen. I know its a bummer because I know there are plenty of sales going on between members here and many game titles have still not been recorded. Its a shame too because I would have loved to recorded your 18 wheeler for the books as none have come up for sale on eBay since 2012.
 
Yes, that's correct. The main reason being is that I can document for everyone each and every sale between the buyer and seller giving the pricing confidence that said sale did happen and the true correct price is revealed for all.

The problem with private sales like if they happen here or somewhere else is I cannot independently prove or document when or if they happen. I know its a bummer because I know there are plenty of sales going on between members here and many game titles have still not been recorded. Its a shame too because I would have loved to recorded your 18 wheeler for the books as none have come up for sale on eBay since 2012.

I understand your reasoning and appreciate what you have done.

I just don't believe that ebay is the most accurate representation of the value of these machines. I understand your point about the sales being documented but I feel your list would benefit from input from collectors as more and more people choose not to use ebay. There is a lot that's incomplete on your list that may never come up for sale on ebay.

Maybe in the future you could consider adding more sales from here. :)
 
I understand your reasoning and appreciate what you have done.

I just don't believe that ebay is the most accurate representation of the value of these machines. I understand your point about the sales being documented but I feel your list would benefit from input from collectors as more and more people choose not to use ebay. There is a lot that's incomplete on your list that may never come up for sale on ebay.

Maybe in the future you could consider adding more sales from here. :)



I appreciate your comments.. I can understand why some think that eBay is not accurate on prices because still to this day eBay does not disclose to us the accepted made offers on site. For these auctions I have to use a special site that will unveil the true price of the auction. At least some skepticism has come from that notion. As far as straight line auctions and BIN's those are what they are and what ever price is the outcome is enough for me to record it because there is nothing inaccurate about the final price unless of course the sales doesn't stick.

Another thing I do to make sure prices are sticking is I filter out the false sales, canceled sales or those auctions where dead beat bidders do no complete the transactions with sellers and find there way back to eBay. Those games that come back to eBay under those circumstances are price corrected in my guide so that it reverts back to the last prior sale.

If the question of price inaccuracy is more about the conditions of the game itself I simply just record my personal opinion to document to the best of my ability as a collector to inform those bidding of the conditions as I see it in the sellers description and pics. Then people can make there own judgment on whether the price was accurate or fair.

I also believe that shipping prices should never be apart of the overall games value or selling price because its basically an extra expense. There is no way of knowing who will pay for shipping and those who pick up a game and save on the shipping. So that is omitted from pricing. I believe that is why eBay doesn't include the shipping at the end final price as well.

I will admit my site is a little unorthodox compared to a paperback price guide because its not based totally on condition but rather on quantity and the amount of games that are selling. That is what im more interested in.. Who pays the most, who pays the least, what is the average price on that game title and what game titles are selling. The prices in a paperback guide or other online sources are stagnant by the time you read them where as my price guide is always live and the prices fluctuate daily as games sell.

There is really no place else I can gather the amount of games compared to games that sell on eBay. There is no shortage of games from what I record daily. Roughly 160 EM pin auctions running daily and another 125 EM auctions so far logged and tracked this year. By the end of 2018 that auction presentation should be well over 500. Some games sell, and many don't. The prices are determined by supply and demand and those willing to buy. Last year eBay sellers sold roughly 451,306.28 dollars of EM games which works out to be 550 EM game units total. That is all EM game genres combined.

The auctions coming to eBay are from everyone... collectors, private sellers, retailers, antique sellers and yes even KLOVer's. So the prices should be well rounded. Yes, my list maybe incomplete but iam very patient : ) Sooner or later they all come to eBay.

I would consider more prices that come from KLOVer's but until someone comes along and can tell me how to document true sales between two individuals here then I could possibly do that. My main problem with this idea is not all KLOVer's are who they say they are and before too long I end up talking to the same guy with a different account here and finds it funny to fuck with others. Some people here get very offended by prices and im sure there will always be someone that would still be skeptical of the idea. I try to do what I do in the easiest manner and give them the best prospective on gaming prices as I can. At least that's what I hope my guide can do. Thanks again for your comments.
 
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Quick update.. The average price tracking file for ABT stimulators is now located on its own ABT stimulators page instead of inside the "all other games price" file. These and the J.F. Frantz models are the only stimulators I will be tracking prices for. Many of the different models are now becoming of interest to collectors for what ever reasons and are fetching some pretty good money on eBay as of late.
 
eBay Quick Links Problem

Hey Guys,
Ive had a few people contact me about the quick links in the tracking files and it seem eBay had a major issue on or before June 1st regarding an address link problem related to their auctions. I also got a email from eBay about this. Basically what this comes down to is broken or corrupted links which may not show you the correct game at auction or tell you it cant find the auction your looking for or some other jargon. They say their end has been fixed but many links in the tracking files that I use need to be repaired because of this issue which is going to be a pain. My guide relies on these links so that you can surf all the EM games that come to eBay.

I have already correct all the links for the "Ongoing" and "Timed" pinball tracking files however if your following the daily tracking file on the home page for all other EM genres you will find many of them not showing you the correct games as I have them recorded in the file. Some links still work but most of those where the auctions have ended and are "inactive" or "ended by seller" or past sold game links may be corrupted or mismatched and contradict what was recorded in the file..

It will take me a few days to go through this file and hopefully I will be able to salvage the direct and correct links for the games already listed. If there is any doubt about the game you are looking at just look at the far right for the actual game pic embedded with in the 2018 tracking file or the direct description given where it has been logged. I'll make another update when all has been fixed on my end. Have any questions about an eBay auction let me know. Thanks
 
I'm really not thrilled about some of the changes eBay made this week. Right now, for many recently completed auctions, if you go to the link, it automatically redirects to a different live/active auction, with a small line of text at the time with a tiny link to go back to the original auction.

And on many live auctions, it only shows you the photo and title and you have to click a button to see the full listing. Now I'm not seeing this second issue this morning yet, but the first one (redirecting closed auctions to live) is still happening... :(
 
I'm really not thrilled about some of the changes eBay made this week. Right now, for many recently completed auctions, if you go to the link, it automatically redirects to a different live/active auction, with a small line of text at the time with a tiny link to go back to the original auction.

And on many live auctions, it only shows you the photo and title and you have to click a button to see the full listing. Now I'm not seeing this second issue this morning yet, but the first one (redirecting closed auctions to live) is still happening... :(

I think you explained it better than I did .. That is precisely what I have been dealing with. Im not thrilled about it either. I hope that is not going to be the norm for it is going to make a lot of extra work for me to correct the links when they get redirected. But we'll see if I can keep up.

This year and the later part of 2017 I have been recording all the pics associated with each and every EM auction (except pins) so that I have them on hand to verify conditions but I always put one single pic into the price guide so the user can see what the game looked like even if no link exists to the past auction. Eventually all links that I put into the price guide will disappear usually after 60 days by eBay but its always good to have the past pics since many of these games are rare and have no recording of them anywhere except maybe in a flyer and or what may have been submitted to VAPS.
 
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Ok, I believe I have corrected all the quick links inside the daily auction tracking file on the home page and all the timed and ongoing pins auction links in the pin section of the site.

As meclemore has pointed out the changes at eBay regarding the quick links, I don't know if that is going to happen all the time but you may encounter that situation when you click on the links inside my price guide. I will correct them as I find them and hopefully keep everything fresh when your looking at the tracking files. I make updates to all auctions everyday generally before midnight.

There were a half dozen links inside the daily tracking file that no longer work at all and were subsequently removed on eBay's end at some point. Links for games Logged in on lines 59,61,67,79,84,146 have been removed but the pics for those games are still embedded there.
 
Website Addition

I hope everyone had a most excellent labor day ? Iam pleased to announce that I will be soon adding a website addition to my Price Guide that you might also find handy. You will soon have the ability to place classified ads for your EM games and or parts. For those people who are not using eBay might find this a viable option.

You will not need to make any accounts, No registrations or logs in will be necessary. No screen names or bull shit passwords to remember. Ive made this site specifically regarding state searches making it an effortless way to find what your looking for in a quick manner.

Ive made it very simple and easy to use with as few clicks as possible making it an easy experience to list your games for sale. You simply will click a link to the software and select the state in which you reside, click the publish your ad for free, fill out your classified ad and submit it to the site. That's it.. Oh, did I mention its all for free ? That's right.

You can make as many Classified ads as you want however the only draw back is your only allow to submit one pic so make sure its the best pic of your game. I will be monitoring what is added. To keep things fresh and new your ads will run for 30 days and then expire. You will be given ample notice to update it or adjust it as necessary. Keep your titles specific to the game your wanting to Buy, Sell or Trade. Look for the link to the EM Game Price Guide Classifieds on my site sometime this week. Thanks
 
Thank you for doing this, OMG this is going to be great we really need to get these games highlighted they deserve their own spotlight
 
Thank you for doing this, OMG this is going to be great we really need to get these games highlighted they deserve their own spotlight

Yeah, Thanks, Its just another avenue for people wanting to buy sell or trade where maybe they're not getting any or great results selling from KLOV or on eBay directly. Since EM games are a small niche advertising by state or by game title might be easier to find what your looking for without your ads getting washed away in queue. At least when you search for a game on my classifieds you'll always be looking at fresh ads and not something stale like Craigslist or coming up with old searches where the game may already be sold or located in a state not near you. It also seems to be a good trend to embed youtube videos of your game within the ads.
 
Hey guys, Just wanted to wish everyone a happy New Year and a greatly appreciated thanks to all those who donated to the EM game price guide this year. May all your EM wishes come true : )
 
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