The costs of a restoration: a cautionary tale

kalevan

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I wanted to share with everyone an example of the costs of restoring an arcade game from beginning to end, assuming you have little to no supplies on hand. This dose of reality might help others make informed decisions about whether they really want to pull the trigger on that beater cab to restore or leave it to some other collector and buy an already restored minty cabinet at a higher cost.

I purchased a game last year on Craigslist. A moment after getting it home, I became a member of klov and VAPS. I was looking for information about the game, and I wanted to see what it once had been, as it had a strange-looking cabinet.

Sooner than later, I realized I had a converted BurgerTime on hand. I decided to enjoy it as it was for awhile, then convert it back into a BurgerTime. Since the cabinet had already been jammatized, I decided to opt for the 60-1 route. A pm to a klover and $110 later, it arrived.

So far: cab $260
60-1: $110

I bit the bullet and decided to get stencils and kickplate art from another klover. Shipped, it came to approximately $300.

Running total, $670.

To avoid overly specific details, I'll combine what I paid for a reproduction CPO with the cost of 2 orange buttons, a new switchable 4/8 way joystick, 2 buttons for service and credits, 2 pull-and-vents for the back of the machine, 2 cam locks/keys, shipping (Oh, LORD, the shipping!) and probably a few other things I am forgetting:

Estimated: $100
Running total: $770.

Finally, the hunt for the remaining artwork began. Klovers came through for me again here, and I now have a marquee and bezel on their way, both of which are minty-fresh reproductions. Edit: As it turns out, the bezel deal fell through... still looking! We'll estimate here again:

Estimated reproduction art cost w/shipping: $120
Running total: Approximately $900.

Now, we need to factor in the costs of the minor details, such as paint, primer, bondo, sand paper, epoxy, etc., etc... Assuming you have none of this on hand, feel safe to estimate at least $100 here, and you'll see that your final costs can very likely land you in the neighborhood of:

Estimated final cost, start to finish: $1000+.

To save anyone the trouble, yes, this restoration could have been done at a fraction of the price with used parts, better connections than I have, etc. This is just an isolated example of what a nearly complete restoration could wind up costing from beginning to end.

To wrap this up, I paid a lot more than I ever expected to pay on this restoration, for sure. I'll be getting a LOT more out of this than I expected to, however. Over the course of my ownership of this cabinet, I've learned a TON about how these games work, how to troubleshoot basic problems, how to cap a monitor... the list goes on. When finished, I'll have a beautiful, new-looking BurgerTime cabinet that plays 60 games, a load of experience under my belt, and the feeling of accomplishment that comes with resurrecting a classic that I enjoyed the hell out of as a kid.

Buying a beat-up cabinet: $250
Restoration costs: Approximately $750
The experience and pride that come with resurrecting a classic: Priceless.
 
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All my restorations cost like...50 bucks. That's what my wife understands, anyway. Now take your lies and alarmist BS elsewhere before she reads this.
 
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eh, thats how it goes. make sure your restoing something worth sinking the $$$ into. I try to save whatever i can whenever i can. Its real easy to go crazy and get new this and that when you want it vs. you need it. I had a race drivin i pulled apart but have no $ in it because all i did was cbean light bondo and paint then reassemble. even used the old t moulding.

lemme think about my tron here... http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=109769

cab rebuild due to rot= free just time except screws and glue $30

bondo/sandpaper/paintjob $ 50(had paint/reducer/primer already)

power cord, mcr ribbon cables and ps rebuild kit $75 ish

phoenixarcade side art inner art and marquee $285 shipped(got b grade mightve been cheaper)

about a month later ps died. Bought arcadeshop ps and adapter. $90 shipped

t moulding- had. leg levelers- leveler brackets= made for free
polished shroud, polished plastics and did highlighter trick, cleaned cpo.

so im at about $500 ish and thats just materials for restoration. I paid $200 for the cab to begin with, so im about $700 in the hole. Thankfully i saved some dough due to havig some stuff available to me already for free, i made some parts, i have or have access to a paintbooth, sandblaster,welder, die grinders, sanders, paintguns, etc.
Also had some klovers help with lending woodworking tools(thank you pat,etc. Id hate to think how much time i have in it. Its still not done as it needs backdoors made and could still use plastics, "someday" but its good enough for now. Could i get my money back? a few years ago no prob, nowadays- i dunno.

However, id still rather have it this way. I get more satisfaction from fixing these things then i do playing them. Its just nice to say " i did that" you know? to the o.p.: you have learned the silver lining to the whole thing. You learn alot as you go. the nice thing about going a $1k resto versus buying a 1k game..

if that game ever pukes, youll know it inside and out and be able ot track your issue down alot easier and alot faster.

If i didnt have acess to stuff and if i hasnt have hoarded some materials, i could have easily sunk $1500 into that thing.
 
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I have about the same experience with my DK, Way overpaid for the cab in it's original state, now with it finished I'm at about double the amount of $$ in it, But I wouldn't change a thing as it's my overall favorite :)

If had done my homework before, it might have saved a couple bucks here and there but I know I still would have went through all the trouble, wonder if I have enough passion for a new game to put in that kind of effort?
 
All my restorations cost like...50 bucks. That's what my wife understands, anyway. Now take your lies and alarmist BS elsewhere before she reads this.

Hillarious!

Todd at T&T has pretty reasonable deals on games considering you get a fully working game in good shape that you can just take home and play. He also warranties them for 5 years. His prices are typically way more than the prices you see on KLOV but they're also way less than a lot of the other retail sellers.

Of course, there's always something to be said for doing your own work. I don't think anybody out there in the retail business can provide the awesome results some of the KLOVers get. I doubt you will find a retailer that can do the type of cabinet restorations you see here.
 
There's also a huge difference between an OP restore and a collector restore.. huge.
 
I've always found it's best to restore a game that you really enjoy, and restore it to play... if you're trying to make a profit, you better get some good deals...
 
let me know if you want to sell it.

I will give you $250 for it. :)O<)
 
i totally understand. for what i spent on my dk restore i could have bought 2 or 3 minty ones. but i am glad i have this one. my dad, who was killed 4 years ago did all the cabinet rebuilding and painting on it so to me it is priceless and will never be for sale.
 
Nothing wrong with overspending on a restoration, as long as your primary goal isn't to flip. I have spent way more than any of my machines are worth, because I enjoy the process of resurrecting.

I enjoy the journey, not the destination.
(Yeah, that's the ticket, it explains why most of my projects are still in process.... :) )

ArcadeMaze!
 
Even though a restored game won't 'sell' for big money, it will have far greater trade pull too.
 
Yep yep. All the time and money has been put into it is because I want a nice BurgerTime for my slowly but steadily growing personal collection. It isn't something I ever see trading/selling away.
 
Burgertime...

Guess I did well when I picked up a near mint, (HUO was thrown around) Burgertime a few months ago for half of the less than half of your restoration... It's amazing how much money we throw at these things.. Heh, my wife still thinks I just traded a game for it.. Well I did, plus a bit o cash..
 
I won't include the amounts or source, but this was from my tracking spreadsheet on making a 60-1 out of a Pac. I wanted everything to be pretty much brand new, and like the OP's, it was way over $1K:

Cabinet
19" Imperial (Kortek) CGA CRT Monitor
Power Supply
60-1 Jammaboard
Jamma Harness
Multicade Upright Control Trackball Panel
Ultimarc Mag Stick Plus
Trackball - 2 1/4" - white
Five buttons (2 white/1 blue/1 red/1 yellow)
Bolts & Nuts
T-Molding - 3/4" Orange Smooth
Repro Bezel
Repro Marquee
Custom CPO
Stencils
4x - Casters
Paint
Marquee bulbs
2x Locks

And like Spyridon said - plenty of hours. I still need to paint the art, but totally worth it in my opinion:
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My Star Wars Upright Restore:

600.00 cab - non working - WG 6100
150.00 supplies, paint... wood (repaired bottom, new door)
70.00 yoke controller rebuild
35.00 yoke controller decal
115.00 control panel decal and marquee
90.00 new front art
215.00 new amp tube
120.00 amp HV+Deflection+yoke
70.00 amp brackets
150.00 rebuild supplies for amp boards - caps / transistors / flyback
55.00 ARII and PS rebuild kits
80.00 Powder coating for yoke controller and power brick frame

An easy $1750.00

I also rebuilt the 6100 and ended up trading it for a Berzerk, but I could have recouped some there had I ebay'd it.

Whats done is done...
 
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