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If nothing else sealbeachguy has got people talking about the Ram scam again. No offense to Steph, but is somebody going to actually going to do something abour Ram Controls scamming. I can't believe that somebody close to Dave/Dan/Adam hasn't dragged this punk down to the local police. What amazes me the most is that people that know the situation are still sending these chumps money.
Wonder why Dan hasn't chimmed in since sealbeachguy started posting?
Glennon
 
He seems to have a problem with running more than one alter ego at a time, doesn't he. ;)

This whole thing is quite entertaining. It's a shame that so many people have lost a lot of money though.
I wonder if anybody has called that # sealbeachguy has posted?
Glennon
 
This whole thing is quite entertaining. It's a shame that so many people have lost a lot of money though.
I wonder if anybody has called that # sealbeachguy has posted?
Glennon
The whole thing still does not make any sense to me. For example:

1. How in the hell can you be in the hobby and know the most basic kind of stuff that goes into these machines and not have red flags from San Diego to New York City pop up when ready to ship complete Star Wars units are advertised? I mean come on, really?

2. Why the fuck are people still throwing money after these douchebags. Seriously?

3. Why wouldn't Dan (or anyone else who has involvement) have tried to distance themselves as much as possible from Ram and Dave/Adam? If he is trying to get his money back, why not go off on your own and claim to have acquired the inventory in a liquidation sale. Why is Dan making good on Dave's orders instead of selling the product to recoup his losses?

Something fishy is still going on here and it isn't the meatloaf in the company cafeteria if you know what I mean. Though it really does not matter to me because I will NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH RAM OR ANY OF ITS MAJOR PLAYERS EVER PERIOD. Why there are people who will sell their soul to the devil while other fellow forum members are getting the unlubed pole up the arse treatment is beyond me. I think it is a reflection on character (or lack thereof).
 
The whole thing still does not make any sense to me. For example:

1. How in the hell can you be in the hobby and know the most basic kind of stuff that goes into these machines and not have red flags from San Diego to New York City pop up when ready to ship complete Star Wars units are advertised? I mean come on, really?

2. Why the fuck are people still throwing money after these douchebags. Seriously?

3. Why wouldn't Dan (or anyone else who has involvement) have tried to distance themselves as much as possible from Ram and Dave/Adam? If he is trying to get his money back, why not go off on your own and claim to have acquired the inventory in a liquidation sale. Why is Dan making good on Dave's orders instead of selling the product to recoup his losses?

Something fishy is still going on here and it isn't the meatloaf in the company cafeteria if you know what I mean. Though it really does not matter to me because I will NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH RAM OR ANY OF ITS MAJOR PLAYERS EVER PERIOD. Why there are people who will sell their soul to the devil while other fellow forum members are getting the unlubed pole up the arse treatment is beyond me. I think it is a reflection on character (or lack thereof).
Could'nt say it much better tha this. As far as people still buying from Ram that are aware of this mess, Well if you have a game and Ram is the only one that has the part I could understand where a person might take a chance ,but to come here and announce it like Kspiff did is disrepectful to all that have been affected by this whole mess. Either way if you buy from Ram your a fool.
Glennon
 
You are welcome, once I found out that he scammed others and not just me, I needed to somehow warn others.
 
You are welcome, once I found out that he scammed others and not just me, I needed to somehow warn others.

Listen you stupid douchebag, no one is buying your moronic I'm just a victim here bullshit any more. We know you are a known associate of Mr Judd and Mr Bloomqist in past fraudulent businesses. While you may well be one of many who was left without a chair when the music stopped, what makes you different is the overwhelming majority of the rest did not turn around and aid and abet a known swindler in the taking of funds from future victims. And that sir makes you scum. I bet you know why Adam had you take these funds for him now. Who do you think is going to pay the piper when the music stops? If you guessed those that received the funds I bet you're warm. But to come on here and say you're the victim here is utter bullshit. A half truth at absolute best. If you're not going to be 100% honest with us please shut the fuck up. Or better yet. Mods! Can we please take out the trash and purge KLOV membership of known crooks and conmen? I think this place would be the better for it. Good night and good luck.
 
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Listen you stupid douchebag, no one is buying your moronic I'm just a victim here bullshit any more. We know you are a known associate of Mr Judd and Mr Bloomqist in past fraudulent businesses. While you may well be one of many who was left without a chair when the music stopped, what makes you different is the overwhelming majority of the rest did not turn around and aid and abet a known swindler in the taking of funds from future victims. And that sir makes you scum. I bet you know why Adam had you take these funds for him now. Who do you think is going to pay the piper when the music stops? If you guessed those that received the funds I bet you're warm. But to come on here and say you're the victim here is utter bullshit. A half truth at absolute best. If you're not going to be 100% honest with us please shut the fuck up. Or better yet. Mods! Can we please take out the trash and purge KLOV membership of known crooks and conmen? I think this place would be the better for it. Good night and good luck.

I am amazed that Dan_RAM, sealbeachguy, and hell even Kalan are allowed to still post here. Take away all fo the info that has come to light, but even in what they have personally admitted on these forums.

Their continued posting is a joke. They answer only what is convenient for them to answer, and completely ignore the multitude of posts with actual "meat" to them. Their posts are nothing but back pedaling and double talk.
 
I am amazed that Dan_RAM, sealbeachguy, and hell even Kalan are allowed to still post here. Take away all fo the info that has come to light, but even in what they have personally admitted on these forums.

Their continued posting is a joke. They answer only what is convenient for them to answer, and completely ignore the multitude of posts with actual "meat" to them. Their posts are nothing but back pedaling and double talk.

A lot of information has come to light in a relatively short period of time and people have jobs and families so give them the benefit of the doubt to at least have a day more to process all this. I will be contacting site ownership to discuss a valued member here who has been driven off by their continued presence. If this is allowed to continue unabated in light of recent developments, I would suspect more departures and I'm sure they don't want that. Hopefully there is enough information now to take acton and that will not happen and others will come back.
 
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I'd be interested to know if Kalan knew/knows Dave/Adam as Dave or Adam or both...
...and if he had any idea of how deep this rabbit goes.

It's not fair to deem the guy guilty by association without the facts.
 
I'd be interested to know if Kalan knew/knows Dave/Adam as Dave or Adam or both...
...and if he had any idea of how deep this rabbit goes.

It's not fair to deem the guy guilty by association without the facts.

While I do not know what Kalan's involvement is/was.......anyone associated with these guys is suspect. Take into account, HIS paypal address was (at one time) linked to Ram Controls......It just doesn't look good. Could he have been a pawn (as Errol is trying to make himself out to be)......sure, but he's been very quiet on this subject. It would be difficult (re: impossible) to imagine he hasn't seen these threads......his name is being associated with these con-artists....Where's he at? You would think, if he was a pawn....he'd be here telling his side of the story.

Does anyone know his real...and full name?

Edward
 
Actually, I think it's a decent idea to let the guys post here. It seems the more they post, the more information is uncovered. They're essentially digging their own grave by continuing to stay active here. It's pretty fascinating, really.
 
Actually, I think it's a decent idea to let the guys post here. It seems the more they post, the more information is uncovered. They're essentially digging their own grave by continuing to stay active here. It's pretty fascinating, really.

Or, they could be spreading more disinformation.
 
They certainly aren't helping themselves by posting here so I say let 'em post! All it's doing is making it more obvious to everyone what kind of people they are, and I imagine all of this has helped steph to some degree.
 
Or, they could be spreading more disinformation.

That's quite possible. But I think because they've posted more, it's made members here dig deeper and become really wise to the game. I think had they not showed up, some of this new information might not be out in the open for everyone now.
 
That's quite possible. But I think because they've posted more, it's made members here dig deeper and become really wise to the game. I think had they not showed up, some of this new information might not be out in the open for everyone now.


And at the very least, it got those on the fence to re-consider purchasing from them.
 
If I were SBG, I'd lawyer up now, tell the cops everything and see if he can made deal if he testifies against all other parties.
 
I'd be interested to know if Kalan knew/knows Dave/Adam as Dave or Adam or both...
...and if he had any idea of how deep this rabbit goes.

It's not fair to deem the guy guilty by association without the facts.


Here is where Kalan admits to taking Ram Controls Paypal payments.
http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showpost.php?p=1526777&postcount=54

Complete thread is here.
http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=172665

Here is his CAX for Sale thread. He removed the pictures. But the list is still there. He had Boxes of New Ram Controls Parts.


http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=191300
 
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