Swapping tv for arcade monitor

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First of all let me just say that I am not that familiar with arcade monitors and picture tubes. I have a cabinet with a 19" monitor in it that I would like to remove and replace with one from a 20" RCA XL100 TV. I would think that the 20" would fit in place of the 19". Am I correct on this? Second, is there going to be any difficulty in swapping them out, or will a TV monitor not give you the same look as a standard arcade monitor? Do I need to keep the current monitor and just use the 20" picture tube? I plan on making the cabinet into a 60-1, so I will be adding a new jamma harness and board. Will the jamma harness hook directly up to the tv monitor or do I need some type of adapter?
 
you could use the tube if it was a 19'' tube and the monitor chassis from the arcade monitor will match up with the neckboard,if you can find a 19'' symphonic tv,chances are very high that the tube will match up with your arcade monitor chassis
 
If you are going to convert it to a 60-in-1 you could put a 19" computer monitor in it. It will use the VGA output the 60-in-1 has. Tube type computer monitors are pretty easy to find on craigslist lots of times free. Just another option.
 
So a 20" tube won't fit in place of a 19"? I thought about the computer monitor before, but I heard that the picture is not as good as a conventional tube for the classic games that are found on a 60-1.
 
You may need to do some modifications to the monitor frame for the 20" to fit in it, or it may fit easily. If you really want to use the 20" TV with the 60-in-1 you can buy a VGA to RCA adapter for the video signal. I think the picture is not as clear though, but it will work.

Computer monitor vs Arcade monitor just depends on what you like better. You can hook up a spare computer monitor to your 60-in-1, prior to installing, to see if you like the smaller dots/pixels compared to the arcade monitor larger dots/pixels.

I would suggest you look at the differences before you go thru the work to install the monitor. With the 60-in-1 it should be easy to try it outside of your cabinet, using the VGA output. You can do that with the Computer monitor and the TV with its adapter. Hopefully the 19" arcade monitor still somewhat works to compare.
 
If the monitor thats in there works, why not just use that, or fix it and use it.

XL-100 Tvs can possibly be a nice donor tube for an arcade monitor if the monitor needs one, but a little explanation as to whats going on with the existing monitor will help us point you in the right direction.
 
I have a 19VJTP22 tube and a K4601/2 chassis. I looked into it some more and I think the problem might be that the chassis interface board has a broken pin #3. The number on the board next to the 6 connector pinout is P205. Is the pinout replaceable or can a get a new interface board for this chassis? If this fixes the problem I will just keep the monitor I have and not even mess with the other stuff.
 
I have a 19VJTP22 tube and a K4601/2 chassis. I looked into it some more and I think the problem might be that the chassis interface board has a broken pin #3.

Pin #3 is a N/C pin. It was used as a key.

What is actually wrong with the monitor? As in, what is the symptom? What is it not doing that is supposed to be doing?

-Ian
 
The screen went completely white while playing my Gallag game. I had an old tv laying around so I figured I would just swap them out.
 
The screen went completely white while playing my Gallag game. I had an old tv laying around so I figured I would just swap them out.

As mentioned you can not simply install the tv and expect it to work - they are different beasts.

Tube swaps is 'possible' providing the tube is compatiable - not all tube are, so don't assume they are without some research. A tv chassis will not work in an arcade monitor unless it is a SCART tv and then that is not necessary plug and play.

Available options:

1) from what you said there is nothing wrong with the tube, you have a problem with the chassis. I would start with a cap kit and reflow the solder on the chassis and go from there. This alone may fix the problem, if not I am sure you can some help here in fixing it.

2) If you are not willing to fix the monitor chassis, check the classifieds as there are people once in a while that are selling rebuilt chassis.

3) The only other 'easy' option is to install a computer monitor and buy a RGB to VGA adaptor - not the best option either and will probably look like crap.
 
The screen went completely white while playing my Gallag game. I had an old tv laying around so I figured I would just swap them out.

Completely white? As in absolutely no image at all? Just a white screen?

Please post some pics of the monitor's circuit boards, if you can.
 
The game does not play blind, there is no sound at all. I pretty much decided that I won't even attempt to put the TV tube in. I will try a new cap kit if I can't get it going pretty soon. I have another Gallag board that I tried and that didn't work either so I just assumed it was the monitor. I will see if I can get some pics posted.

Thanks everyone for the help.
 
No sound and white screen means bad game board in my world.

Before you go mussing about worrying about the monitor, I'd suggest testing a replacement game board in the cabinet first, or try the monitor on another game.
 
I have TV tubes in over half my cabinets, running with replacement chassis designed for the purpose. TV tubes always were a higher grade than the ones used in arcade monitors and modern TVs dumped are likely to have a fraction of the hours on the tube than an old arcade screen has.

A guy in Perth down here supplies and sets up the chassis depending on the tube you have found. The image quality is stunning!
 
I agree with Smalltownguy that the problem is most likely not with your monitor but with the board not putting out video.

1: (With power unplugged from AC outlet) Check fuse in the power supply - actually pull the fuse out and test it with an Ohmmeter - if bad, replace. It sounds like your monitor is getting power but the boards are not - this can create a white screen.

2: If you really suspect the monitor, and if you (or know someone that) have another video game, you can swap the monitors to test.

Between these two, you should be able to determine if the problem is the monitor or the boardset.

-Muel
 
A cap kit wouldn't hurt if it never had one - BUT - as others have said, since you can't play the game blind, then there is a board problem and that should be fixed first before you touch the monitor.
 
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