Super Punch Out Japanese style

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Here are the pics I saw the other day at a fellow KLOV'ers -

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I'll let him chime in on the details.
 
I guess that would be me that has to chime in on the details. Not really sure if I remember the details, but my family had a video game business many, many years ago (like 25). We would change the games quite frequently. This particular game was likely a PunchOut! at one time. Then, it was later updated to a Super Punch Out! I believe that the kit we purchased had the label as shown that could be simply added to the side of the cabinet.

I later converted this game to a Playchoice 10 as you can see by the screen. However, after talking to Krajkerjac, who is an excellent human being for anyone who doesn't know him, he convinced me that I need to change it back to a Super Punch Out! I plan on doing this before the end of the year. Once I have done so, I will post some pictures. It should be fun to see it back in the original glory again. And, it will be fun to see the comments on this thread.

Thanks Krajkerjac for all your help! I am fortunate to have met you. It's been too long for me to remember how to fix these games. Thanks for getting me some help that I needed and thanks for getting me and my kids excited about the games again. They have been playing up and down nonstop. Scramble is even working pretty good right now...even though it is still resetting. It just doesn't reset as frequently.

If anyone is interested in details on the board, marquee, or CP, please let me know and I will take some pictures of that. Otherwise, I will just throw it in the cabinet.
 
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Are there any differences with the board, marquee, or CP?

Could you take a picture of the CPU board, I wouldn't use a flash, and tell us what is written on the EPROM chips?

Do you know if it is running the Japanese version of SPO?

Interesting. I was just thinking I wish there was more of a Japanese presence on KLOV. Lot of interesting stuff, differences in the games, and history that I'm afraid isn't as documented as well over here.
 
I have a few pictures now and I will upload them later...but I need to get a manual or at least the wiring pin outs. There is a newer power supply in here and some of the wires were spliced out. I can't figure out where to wire them up and unfortunately, I didn't label the wires.

Here is what I have:
Brown, orange, red hooked together
Black and white hooked together
Purple, blue, grey hooked together
Blue and purple hooked together

Any help here would be greatly appreciated.

I will post pictures tonight or tomorrow.
 
Sounds great. I will take some pictures and post them.

Here's the pic (attachment 1) that I posted in the other thread of a Super Punch-Out!! machine in Japan. I suppose it's entirely possible that this artwork was also used on early run kits and the artwork was changed later on.

It could also be possible when the kit first came out the pieces were made in Japan, but after a while Nintendo Of America started screening their own artwork, sort of like how NOA built the MDF cabs here in the US.

I also found another picture of seemingly a different SPO (attachment 2) in Japan. The marquee colors on both of these are different than some I've seen, in line with what is on the flyer.

Attachment 3 is a pic of a machine I found online with the same color scheme in the US. The copyright under the Nintendo logo says "1984 Nintendo" rather than NOA which would imply that artwork was not intended for the U.S. I think Krakerjac's SPO marquee is like this?

So I suppose when SPO first came out in the U.S., NOA used this revision of artwork for the first kits, since this marquee has a "Nintendo of America" seal sticker on it.

Oddly enough it looks like the sideart on the Japanese cab says "Nintendo Of America, Inc." on it :)
 

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I have a few pictures now and I will upload them later...but I need to get a manual or at least the wiring pin outs. There is a newer power supply in here and some of the wires were spliced out. I can't figure out where to wire them up and unfortunately, I didn't label the wires.

Here is what I have:
Brown, orange, red hooked together
Black and white hooked together
Purple, blue, grey hooked together
Blue and purple hooked together

Any help here would be greatly appreciated.

I will post pictures tonight or tomorrow.

Red, orange grey and brown are ground
Black and white (as well as the purple, blue)are all +5v

Courtesy of Ken -

3 pin connector

1 100vac
2 no connect
3 100vac

12 pin connector

1 no connect
2 no connect
3 no connect
4 no connect
5 Green Ground
6 Blue Ground
7 Purple Ground
8 Gray Ground
9 White +5v
10 Black +5v
11 no connect
12 no connect

9 pin connector

1 Brown Ground
2 Red Ground
3 Orange Ground
4 No connect
5 No connect
6 Blue +5v
7 Purple +5v
8 No connect
9 White +24 v (meter)
 
I got it all connected up thanks to you and the wiring diagram I found on the internet about the same time you e-mailed me. So, it is hooked up and running. Although, it might be just a Punch Out, not the super version...need to double check. I forgot the difference.
 
Well, after doing some searching and playing the game, unfortunately, I only have a regular punch out. Bummer. I guess that I will have to search for the Super Punch Out!! now. Anyone got one out there that they want to sell?

I have never attached pictures here...let's see how this works.
 

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That's very interesting. I would say that this means that the Japanese style of sideart and marquee was used in early USA SPO kits, based on Now F1's post stating that he purchased the kit in the USA.

Just for comparison, this is a scan of the NOS decal that came in my SPO kit:

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Mine also came with the version of the marquee which has the white lettering for the word "Super". For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to call the "Japanese version" of the art "Red Super", and the "American version" of the art "White Super"; given that "Japanese" and "American" doesn't seem to be the actual distinction here, but rather, it seems more like an "early" and "later" thing. Maybe they even had the White Super version in Japan later on.

It is too bad that Now F1 doesn't still have the SPO boardset that came with that Red Super kit. I'm wondering if perhaps the Red Super version was also the elusive Venice Beach version.

Question for Now F1: Are the gray parts of that "Super" sideart on your PC-10 machine just ordinary gray, or are they somewhat reflective metallic silver? I'd like to have a high DPI scan or square photograph of the relatively undamaged side in order to vectorize it.
 
Yeah, I was pretty bummed when I realized the PCB was just regular Punch Out. PM me your e-mail address and I will send you a few photos of the "Super" portion of the side art.
 
Here are a few more close ups. PM me if you want me to e-mail any of the pictures to you. Happy to do so.
 

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And, a few more...really disappointed that I don't know where the conversion chips are for the Super PunchOut. I might have to do some more digging...but I don't think that I will find them.

I did find a few vs. games in the box that I had forgotten about. Sky, Gumshoe, Hogan's Alley, and Excitebike. I also have both the Super PunchOut CP and the PunchOut CP. The difference being the pull up on the Super PunchOut to duck.
 

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Here are a few more close ups. PM me if you want me to e-mail any of the pictures to you. Happy to do so.

So are the gray parts metallic silver or ordinary gray? On my White Super decal that I posted the image of, the parts that look gray are metallic silver; somewhat reflective, and it color shifts depending on the angle you are viewing it from.

It is interesting the way the big gray/silver blotch on yours has a slightly darker gray/silver border around it, giving it a slightly 3D look. That would add an extra color for screen printing (I don't even know if metallic silver screen printing ink comes in different shades).
 
To me, it looks like it is ordinary gray as it doesn't seem to shift colors based on the angle that I am viewing it. The 2 shades of gray do make it look pretty cool, I think.

On the chips for the Super PunchOut, would there happen to be 3 chips to swap out? I found 3 with one labeled PRG-1-B...
 
To me, it looks like it is ordinary gray as it doesn't seem to shift colors based on the angle that I am viewing it. The 2 shades of gray do make it look pretty cool, I think.

On the chips for the Super PunchOut, would there happen to be 3 chips to swap out? I found 3 with one labeled PRG-1-B...

The kit contains 33 ICs plus a protection board (CHS1-01-EXP, which replaces the main CPU [Z80A]). Not all of the ICs are used though, because there are enough ICs to cover all versions of Punch-Out.

There are 6 ICs to change on the CPU board, 11 to replace on the video board, and 8 to replace on the BAK board (6 of which are small Fuse ROMs); 25 total, 8 of them remaining unused. All the SPO chips start with CHS1, while the original PO chips that get replaced start with CHP1. You can download the SPO manual here.
 
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