Street Fighter II Champion Edition Dedicated (Western MD)

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Street Fighter II Champion Edition Dedicated (Western MD)

I have been sitting on this game for months and I honestly no longer feel like trying to fix it. It is dedicated in a cut corner dynamo. Solid cab with no water damage,missing the back cover.Played blind at one point and now does nothing due to a chassis issue,maybe bad flyback?dunno. Anyway,comes with the working board set,all controls function. CPO has excessive cig burns in the top center. Big 25" montior in it.Needs plexi sheet for the screen.


PARTING OUT!!!!! Available for view in hagerstown md 21740. PICKUP ONLY
 

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I HOPE this helps put to rest the "Oh, they didn't make a dedicated SFII" crap. The thing has a friekin' sticker from the factory.



Interesting too that Capcom or Dynamo were considering Champion Edition "StreetFighter 3" That's pretty neat!
 
They DIDN'T make a dedicated SFII. THose only exist in kits. The SFII Champion Edition "dedicated" cabinets look like this:
http://www.retrocpu.com/mame/images...i_-_champion_edition_world_920313.cabinet.png

SFI was dedicated, SFIICE was dedicated. SSFII was dedicated.

A lot of red "Z" cabinets and Dynamos were used for the smaller kits for CE and HF. SFII was basically put in ANYTHING.

Unless it's a common game,it's hard to say what is or isn't dedicated a majority of the time.(For me anyway,as I haven't been in the hobby for a huge amount of time.)I do know however,that a huge chunk of the game listings images on klov are of conversions,despite the fact that many of them have dedicated cabs.I use arcadeflyers.com to try to look up dedicated cab images.
 
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They DIDN'T make a dedicated SFII. THose only exist in kits. The SFII Champion Edition "dedicated" cabinets look like this:
http://www.retrocpu.com/mame/images...i_-_champion_edition_world_920313.cabinet.png

SFI was dedicated, SFIICE was dedicated. SSFII was dedicated.

A lot of red "Z" cabinets and Dynamos were used for the smaller kits for CE and HF. SFII was basically put in ANYTHING.

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There were only ever THREE official Capcom versions of SFII, at least until the switch to the CPS2 system was made. The first was "Street Fighter II - The World Warrior"; more commonly referred to as 'Street Fighter II'. The second was "Street Fighter II' - Champion Edition" (also known in Japan as "Street Fighter II Dash" because the Japanese refer to the apostrophe after the 'II' as a "dash") and many operators from that era will probably relate to the problems that its release caused. Capcom originally made 'Champion Edition' available only in dedicated form - insisting that only a limited number of these dedicated units would be manufactured - and the game would never be produced in kit form. After everyone who could afford the machines had invested in the expensive dedicated units, Capcom, somewhat inevitably, began producing the game in kit form, claiming that they never knew how much demand there would be for the game. After the earnings from 'Champion Edition' began to subside, the infamous 'grey market' enhancements began to appear. Many of these went by names like 'Turbo', 'Hyper', and 'Super', including the 'Rainbow Edition' and 'Accelerator T1'. In early 1993, Capcom sued these manufacturers for copyright infringement and thus put an end to the development and distribution of these unauthorized enhancement kits. Capcom then released "Street Fighter II' - Hyper Fighting" (known as "Street Fighter II' Turbo - Hyper Fighting" in Japan), as the 'official' "Champion Edition" upgrade. This, just like the grey market kits, was a simple ROM upgrade to the "Champion Edition" board. Later on, Capcom developed the CPS2 (A/B) system that featured "Super Street Fighter II - The New Challengers" and its sequel "Super Street Fighter II Turbo" (known as "Super Street Fighter II X - Grand Master Challenge" in Japan), the final 'Street Fighter II' game until the 2003 release of "Hyper Street Fighter II - The Anniversary Edition".

http://www.arcade-history.com/?n=street-fighter-ii-the-world-warrior&page=detail&id=2657

for what it's worth, our SF2 CE back in the day was a red Z cab.

I'm not sure what to think about there being no dedicated SF2:WW however, what the hell were all those black cut corner cabs with the elaborate Ryu sideart, were they all converted SF1s?
 
You guys really take the cake. You post a picture of the blue cab sf2ce and say that's the dedicated, because that's what you've been told.

The gentleman above just showed you a picture of a cut corner dynamo 5 with a sticker from the factory that says sf on the tag sent from dynamo, and you still don't believe that's a dedicated game.


If it came from the factory with the game installed in it, guess what? It's dedicated! The blue one was dedicated, this black one is dedicated.


Sometimes you've got to stop believing what you've been told, or what you remember, and believe the knowledge that's right in front of your face. This guy is selling a cut corner dynamo sf2 ce that's dedicated. Period.
 
Should I post the rest of the stickers on the cab? Dunno if they matter but they are factory applied also.


Only if you're going to be as belligerant as I am, and rub it in their faces that they've been wrong all these years. This topic comes up every few months, and you always hear the same crap, lol.


BTW, to keep this on topic that's a smokin' deal on that game for the price you're asking.
 
You guys really take the cake. You post a picture of the blue cab sf2ce and say that's the dedicated, because that's what you've been told.

The gentleman above just showed you a picture of a cut corner dynamo 5 with a sticker from the factory that says sf on the tag sent from dynamo, and you still don't believe that's a dedicated game.


If it came from the factory with the game installed in it, guess what? It's dedicated! The blue one was dedicated, this black one is dedicated.


Sometimes you've got to stop believing what you've been told, or what you remember, and believe the knowledge that's right in front of your face. This guy is selling a cut corner dynamo sf2 ce that's dedicated. Period.


Why do you assume the sticker was applied at the factory? I have thrown away similar stickers for a few Capcom games over the years. None were ever applied and all were on the game kit inventory list along with the CPO, circuit board, bezel, and marquee.
 
Why do you assume the sticker was applied at the factory?

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for what it's worth, our SF2 CE back in the day was a red Z cab.
The first SF2CE cab that I ever saw was in a red Z back Dynamo. I still believe this to be the dedicated form of this game. Along with the HS5 that's been posted. I'm sure it mostly depends on region and what was available.
 
The first SF2CE cab that I ever saw was in a red Z back Dynamo. I still believe this to be the dedicated form of this game. Along with the HS5 that's been posted. I'm sure it mostly depends on region and what was available.


I saw the picture the first time. As I said, stickers were shipped with many kits. They could have been applied by the op when he converted the cab or built the cab as in the case of cabs that shipped empty and the operator "built" the game. I have even seen stickers stacked on top of one another from conversions, a Mag Max and a Marvel vs. Capcom in a Sega Moonwalker cab come to mind.
 
Again with the b.s. If it was shipped in the kit, why the fuck does it say Dynamo and HS5 on it?


Just admit that it's obviously a factory installed, dedicated SF2CE.

Is your argument really that they shipped the guy the cabinet and the kit at the same time? And that the kit had the sticker for the cabinet, but only for the dynamo cabinet, and blah blah blah so it cant' be dedicated?

OCKHAM's RAZOR. Look it up!
 
Again with the b.s. If it was shipped in the kit, why the fuck does it say Dynamo and HS5 on it?


Just admit that it's obviously a factory installed, dedicated SF2CE.

Is your argument really that they shipped the guy the cabinet and the kit at the same time? And that the kit had the sticker for the cabinet, but only for the dynamo cabinet, and blah blah blah so it cant' be dedicated?

OCKHAM's RAZOR. Look it up!
Chill out bro it's just a game...
 
I used to work at Capcom. Even though I wasn't in the arcade division nor was I there during the releases of these games I got a sense of how they did things.

So the deal was that it was offered in dedicated and kit form. If you ordered a dedicated then you would get a Dynamo that Capcom ordered and the kits were applied to it at dynamo and designed for Dynamo control panels etc.

The kits were assembled stateside where they just sought out vendors for the different pieces of art etc. That's why the art was actually so ass. Kobozono even directed the different button layouts and it was really just problem solving for different options and problems with the cabs available. It's also why there are so many variants of the CPO layout. Some had joystick and button labels printed on the CPO some were a separate sticker kit.

Mostly it was to solve operator problems with button layout but some were printed for dirrect application to the Dynamo cabs that it was offered in. Even Dynamo had various variants of their HS5 cabs. Just looking at the power supplies you can tell that they just made do with what parts they could source out.

Later on Capcom went from Dynamo to Koam to Hanaho to source cabs.

Technically yes it was a dedicated... as dedicated as a generic cab can be.

For example Forgotten Worlds comes in an HS1 with a custom control panel. It had hardware specific to hold the FW spinners but it was still based on the modular control panel.

Does any of this discussion really matter? My friend asked me what joysticks should go into his HS1 SF2:WW and I answered ... well if you want it to feel like it did when it was new then go with Happ Supers but I prefer Happ Competition joysticks instead. They don't get tweaked as much and stay more consistent in their life.
 
I used to work at Capcom. Even though I wasn't in the arcade division nor was I there during the releases of these games I got a sense of how they did things.

So the deal was that it was offered in dedicated and kit form. If you ordered a dedicated then you would get a Dynamo that Capcom ordered and the kits were applied to it at dynamo and designed for Dynamo control panels etc.

The kits were assembled stateside where they just sought out vendors for the different pieces of art etc. That's why the art was actually so ass. Kobozono even directed the different button layouts and it was really just problem solving for different options and problems with the cabs available. It's also why there are so many variants of the CPO layout. Some had joystick and button labels printed on the CPO some were a separate sticker kit.

Mostly it was to solve operator problems with button layout but some were printed for dirrect application to the Dynamo cabs that it was offered in. Even Dynamo had various variants of their HS5 cabs. Just looking at the power supplies you can tell that they just made do with what parts they could source out.

Later on Capcom went from Dynamo to Koam to Hanaho to source cabs.

Technically yes it was a dedicated... as dedicated as a generic cab can be.

For example Forgotten Worlds comes in an HS1 with a custom control panel. It had hardware specific to hold the FW spinners but it was still based on the modular control panel.

Does any of this discussion really matter? My friend asked me what joysticks should go into his HS1 SF2:WW and I answered ... well if you want it to feel like it did when it was new then go with Happ Supers but I prefer Happ Competition joysticks instead. They don't get tweaked as much and stay more consistent in their life.


Your description is exactly what I think happened as well. I don't consider a generic cab, outsourced and assembled by contractors, to be a dedicated machine. Dedicated is a term that means more than simply the first boardset/wiring/artwork assembled into the cab. Dedicated cabs were cabs that a manufacturer designed themselves or contracted to be designed specificly for their own games, either exclusive to one game (Atari did this often) or exclusive to your line of games (Nintendo and Taito did this). Dynamo's were designed to be replacement cabs for operators to use and the company got a sweet contract for Capcom kits as well. If these cabs are considered dedicated then Dale's Hot Seat must be considered dedicated as well, right?
 
Does any of this discussion really matter? My friend asked me what joysticks should go into his HS1 SF2:WW and I answered ... well if you want it to feel like it did when it was new then go with Happ Supers but I prefer Happ Competition joysticks instead. They don't get tweaked as much and stay more consistent in their life.

That's me. I went with Supers. :D

And no, none of this discussion matters. I think LyonsArcade's point was that he's tired of hearing debates and discussions on what SFII cabs were "dedicated."

IMHO, my SFII:WW in a Dynamo HS-1 is as "dedicated" as it can be based on the reasons Prairied1ll0 gave above. If arcades back in 1991 received a complete SFII:WW in this form from the factory, then I would think it's dedicated. But I guess that term is subjective.

I would think the same happened with SFII:CE as well. So the one that's for sale is "dedicated" but with some missing parts as mentioned in a previous post.
 
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