Street Fighter II CE dedicated restore

Mikeosoft

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Hi I'm new to these forums, but I've spent a few years browsing and working on Pinball machines. I recently restored my 2 slot Goldie MVS cab, and figured it was time to move on to a harder second project.

I had this machine stored upstate ny for the last 7 years while i finished up college and left boston. I drove it home to my house and put it into the basement, and plugged it in...

First time powering on in 6 years, and it works like the day it was made. JUST A TON MORE DIRTY.

So I did this so far.

here's a slideshow of the first day. I'd try to add them as img html tags but i dont think this forum lets me.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v321/mikeosoft/Street Fighter 2 CE/?albumview=slideshow

1. First took the control panel off
2. removed the plexiglass and bezel from the monitor. (there's a pic of the dirt and grime on the inside of the bezel and plexi in the images i linked to show you just how dirty this machine was)
3. vacuumed out the machine (tons of cob webs and filth and hardened gum
4. grabbed some goo gone and got to work getting the stickerbacking material off the front, and also got some of the gum on the side of the machine off
5. removed the marquee and checked for yellowing, not too bad. got to work on the marquee light, realized the left side contact had broken, went to home depot to find a replacement, but couldn't
6. purchased a whole new drop in T8 unit with fluorescent bulb (in picture)
7. removed the old materials, disconnected the contacts, placed in new all in one unit, tested out and it works perfectly.
8.Cleaned the monitor for a good half an hour with cleaner to remove the 20 years of grime and smoke and who knows what else crap that stuck to the monitor
9. removed the security bolts on the bottom and sides of the coin doors
10. borrowed some security bolts from my dad's pinball parts bins to fit in the holes
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I've also ordered replacement parts from lizardlick which shipped today, should be here soon.
New buttons, new joysticks (il Competition sticks)
Happ buttons

ordered 50ft of black T molding off fleabay

need to order:
street fighter II ce CPO for this dynamo 25 cab

more up tonight
 
Welcome to the Forum! Good work on your first project. I think you'll find everyone here extremely helpful if you have any problems.


Jeff
 
Good start!

With 50' of TMolding....this must bethe largest SF ever! ;)

I measured out the sucker takes about 30-35 ft give or take.

I think this is because t molding runs all around the sides including underneath. I can post a pic to clarify what i mean, it runs all along the back and bottom of each side. Just a typical Dynamo generic cab i guess.

my 2 slot neo geo goldie used about 18 feet, and shes small
 
It's been a while, I decided to go traveling through East Africa. Climbed Kilimanjaro, road motorcycle through the Serengeti, rafted the Nile river, biked through Hell's Gate and got robbed in Nairobi. Now I'm back and sick with Bilharzia and ready to work on this machine.


While I was away I ordered some parts, so it was just about spray painting, and piecing together the machine again.

Ordered a replacement ce vinyl. It came while i was away, and though it looked good, upon closer inspection the seller bent/folded the middle which lifted the clearcoat form the base layer right over the player 1 joystick area. Nothing too bad but definitely noticeable. Oh well.

I stripped away the old faded and rotten vinyl with some heat gun and elbow grease. Then i got some goof-off and brake cleaner and sprayed it on and began scrubbing away the goo with a brillow pad.

After that i took a belt sander to the surface side and cleaned up the old rust and black paint. I applied a few coats of rustoleum primer, followed by some semigloss black which i ran out of after 2 coats, so i settled on flat black for the final two coats.

Today I applied the new vinyl. It was kind of a pain, but I'm satisfied with the final result and definitely learned a lot for next time. I made sure to line up the player 1 and player 2 joysticks in center and let the rest of the vinyl find its place. I used a credit card to get rid of bubbles, and the heat-gun on light and from a distance, so not to melt or shrink the new vinyl.

Here's some pics:


Its cool, but the new vinyl is a darker shade than the faded monitor bezel which is more white. Where they meet up is where the biggest issue is. I guess I'll get used to it but it makes me sad a bit since the machine looks good.

Does anyone know where i can source a new Monitor Bezel for a Street Fighter II CE?
 

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Oh man, that's cool as shit. Are they rare/expensive? Can take this to PMs if you'd like to stop derailing your thread. :p
 
Good luck with the restore, just an FYI that's not a dedicated SF2CE, that's a standard CE kit outfitted in a regular dynamo. There is a pretty big difference between the two.
 
It's been a while, I decided to go traveling through East Africa. Climbed Kilimanjaro, road motorcycle through the Serengeti, rafted the Nile river, biked through Hell's Gate and got robbed in Nairobi. Now I'm back and sick with Bilharzia and ready to work on this machine.

Well, it's nice to know you got to take it easy during your travels... :D
 
Good luck with the restore, just an FYI that's not a dedicated SF2CE, that's a standard CE kit outfitted in a regular dynamo. There is a pretty big difference between the two.

Hi I've thoroughly been through this cab and i can tell you since it was built it's been a SFII CE. Dynamo even built it with a tag on the back for "street fighter 3" see pic below. (not my exact tag, but i have the same one)

cut corner dynamo 5 with a sticker from the factory that says sf on the tag sent from dynamo, and still don't believe that's a dedicated game. It came from the factory with the game installed in it.

There were only ever THREE official Capcom versions of SFII, at least until the switch to the CPS2 system was made. The first was "Street Fighter II - The World Warrior"; more commonly referred to as 'Street Fighter II'. The second was "Street Fighter II' - Champion Edition" (also known in Japan as "Street Fighter II Dash" because the Japanese refer to the apostrophe after the 'II' as a "dash") and many operators from that era will probably relate to the problems that its release caused. Capcom originally made 'Champion Edition' available only in dedicated form - insisting that only a limited number of these dedicated units would be manufactured - and the game would never be produced in kit form. After everyone who could afford the machines had invested in the expensive dedicated units, Capcom, somewhat inevitably, began producing the game in kit form, claiming that they never knew how much demand there would be for the game. After the earnings from 'Champion Edition' began to subside, the infamous 'grey market' enhancements began to appear. Many of these went by names like 'Turbo', 'Hyper', and 'Super', including the 'Rainbow Edition' and 'Accelerator T1'. In early 1993, Capcom sued these manufacturers for copyright infringement and thus put an end to the development and distribution of these unauthorized enhancement kits. Capcom then released "Street Fighter II' - Hyper Fighting" (known as "Street Fighter II' Turbo - Hyper Fighting" in Japan), as the 'official' "Champion Edition" upgrade. This, just like the grey market kits, was a simple ROM upgrade to the "Champion Edition" board. Later on, Capcom developed the CPS2 (A/B) system that featured "Super Street Fighter II - The New Challengers" and its sequel "Super Street Fighter II Turbo" (known as "Super Street Fighter II X - Grand Master Challenge" in Japan), the final 'Street Fighter II' game until the 2003 release of "Hyper Street Fighter II - The Anniversary Edition".

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http://www.arcade-history.com/?n=str...detail&id=2657

Rule of thumb, don't believe the pictures you see on klov of others machines, most are not original
 

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The cabinet isn't a 'dedicated street fighter 2 champion edition' cabinet. It's the kit that was produced after the original run in a generic dynamo cabinet. I have no doubts that it came from the capcom as a SF2CE, but the cabinet itself is just a generic dynamo HS series. As far as the 'actual' dedicated cabinet goes, I don't need any pictures as I own one. I'll be more than happy to share some pics though. It's the first run of big blues with the large marquee. I don't want anyone getting confused with the term 'dedicated' as it applies to the capcom cabinets at least. Nothing else intended.
 
The cabinet isn't a 'dedicated street fighter 2 champion edition' cabinet. It's the kit that was produced after the original run in a generic dynamo cabinet. I have no doubts that it came from the capcom as a SF2CE, but the cabinet itself is just a generic dynamo HS series. As far as the 'actual' dedicated cabinet goes, I don't need any pictures as I own one. I'll be more than happy to share some pics though. It's the first run of big blues with the large marquee. I don't want anyone getting confused with the term 'dedicated' as it applies to the capcom cabinets at least. Nothing else intended.

Thanks for your contribution to my thread. You come in here to tell me my machine isn't orginal by your standards? thanks man very encouraging... So what your really saying is your definition of "dedicated" isn't shared by me.

From a guy in another thread who worked for cap:

http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=135803&page=2

I used to work at Capcom. Even though I wasn't in the arcade division nor was I there during the releases of these games I got a sense of how they did things.

So the deal was that it was offered in dedicated and kit form. If you ordered a dedicated then you would get a Dynamo that Capcom ordered and the kits were applied to it at dynamo and designed for Dynamo control panels etc.

The kits were assembled stateside where they just sought out vendors for the different pieces of art etc. That's why the art was actually so ass. Kobozono even directed the different button layouts and it was really just problem solving for different options and problems with the cabs available. It's also why there are so many variants of the CPO layout. Some had joystick and button labels printed on the CPO some were a separate sticker kit.

Mostly it was to solve operator problems with button layout but some were printed for dirrect application to the Dynamo cabs that it was offered in. Even Dynamo had various variants of their HS5 cabs. Just looking at the power supplies you can tell that they just made do with what parts they could source out.

Later on Capcom went from Dynamo to Koam to Hanaho to source cabs.

Technically yes it was a dedicated... as dedicated as a generic cab can be.

For example Forgotten Worlds comes in an HS1 with a custom control panel. It had hardware specific to hold the FW spinners but it was still based on the modular control panel.

Does any of this discussion really matter? My friend asked me what joysticks should go into his HS1 SF2:WW and I answered ... well if you want it to feel like it did when it was new then go with Happ Supers but I prefer Happ Competition joysticks instead. They don't get tweaked as much and stay more consistent in their life.

I'm done with this man. I shouldn't have to defend my claim that my machine started its life as a SFII CE. I call that Dedicated. If you don't I don't care.

Thanks,
Mike

More updates to follow i need to work on this today. Awesome community here
 
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Good stuff Mike!

I've recently nabbed MYSELF a SFII':HF and a CE board coming in. I was a competitive fighting gamer for most of that era along with working in arcades. So I waited for some time to hunt down an HS1 or HS2 cab and finally got one...super clean. Just restoring the CP (which was tough to find, but got lucky from an awesome local collector bud of mine), getting new controls, locks and bezel. :D

Anywhoo: HS5's, from MY recollection of working at 90's era arcades as a scrubby kid, were the first choice of dedicated cabs for CE machines from Capcom. But they used HS2's and 5's to distribute to our arcade. We ultimately had 5 machines (yes, at once...a beautiful sight), a deluxe 33" big screen and 3 of the HS2's and an HS1...all directly ordered. The reason we'd get so many because we were a test location for Capcom at the time. :rolleyes:

Here's a flyer I remember distinctly from how we ordered our Street Fighters:
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Here's a shot of one we used to have, minus the restored red paint:
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IIRC, Big Blue (pic'd below) wasn't introduced as a standard dedicated until the CPS-2 era with SSFII. It was offered as a "deluxe" option to operators later in the CE/HF run of SFII, but not as a standard.

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If my opinion is worth anything, Mike...I'd safely say you've got yourself a dedicated machine.

Keep us informed of your progress man! I'm pretty much at the same point as you in my restoration and I'd love to see how each of our machines turn out...!!!

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In addition, here's a great thread from about 7 months ago when we sorta had this discussion about cabs. Now, Dynamo simply were the manufacturer of the cabs themselves and would fulfill orders from various publishers, ie. Capcom. But this thread covers Dynamo's VERY well:

http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=117846&highlight=dynamo+cabinet
 
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Ok let me put it this way. When street fighter 2 CE first came out, it was only available as a 'dedicated' form as part of the big blue cab. Capcom claimed that that's the only way they were going to be available. Later on, they reneged on that and decided to release it in kit form by itself and as part of a dynamo package. The big blue included in the picture came out as a dedicated cps1 champion edition cab. They were later purposed for other games such as the punisher, etc. It's important to know that there were several variations of the big blue, and this was the very first one out, long before the cps2 era.I'm not here to hate or anything, I just didn't want people to think that your cab was a true 'dedicated' a la asteroids or pacman or something like that, as the 'big blue' was the only 'dedicated' cab street fighter has had. All the other ones from the factory were standard dynamo's used in a CRAP load of other games. If I came off as hostile or whatever, I apologize. Didn't mean anything bad by it. Just wanted to clear up the misconception.

Also, in an unusual twist of fate, the big blue djgil posted is actually my machine. He must have got the pic off another forum, probably neo-geo.com.I guess he saved me from having to snap another pic of it,lol.

At djgil, my machine pictured was made for CE because it was supposed to be a 'special' thing. That design proved to be popular, however, so it was used as a basis for some other cps1 games. The big blues that came out for the super street fighter era are a bit different, with a wider control panel, and bigger speaker grills. Wherever you got my pic from, check out the other blues I have and you will be able to see the difference. Also important to note that those blue cabs weren't dedicated to just one game, but rather the cps2 format itself.if you try to put a CE board by normal means in the newer blues, you won't get any sound, because they had the Qsound amp as part of their structure. Hope that clears some stuff up!
 
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Welp I finished up on wiring it back into action.



She's almost done. I'm just going to reglue/repair the back panel (currently drying), and thoroughly clean her with some magic erasers and some 409 before applying new T molding and calling it a finished project.

BUT.. Yesterday I bit on this:







This naomi universal should keep me occupied since SFIICE is almost done
 
IIRC, Big Blue (pic'd below) wasn't introduced as a standard dedicated until the CPS-2 era with SSFII. It was offered as a "deluxe" option to operators later in the CE/HF run of SFII, but not as a standard.

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That's one of the last machines I'd like to add to my collection someday. I already have a pcb, bezel, and the huge marquee ready to go! :D

Here's one down in South Carolina that's been converted to a Tekken 4! Judging by the button layout, I'd say it was a Champion Edition and they left the 2 middle buttons for each player out when they converted it. The spacing looks to be correct at least.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Tekken-4-full-s...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0e7a0070#shId
 
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