Street fighter dynamo question

the "most correct" would probably be a z-back or a big blue, but I couldn't see how it would hurt to put on in an hs-5 either. (I certainly wouldn't pay $600 for one though)
 
That's not the exact one. Its currently a marvel v. Capcom, but it's in the same cab.

I'm not really a fan of the big blue cabs and z-backs are hard to find.
 
I believe the current info is that CE came in it's own style Big Blue and a 19inch HS-1-ish cabinet (like WW). Z-Back was more HF, but no one is going to poopoo you going CE in one of those since it's just a marquee and board swap (although HF > CE).

Also, no one is going to really bust your balls turning a HS-5 into a CE. They were pretty much made to be converted into whatever. It only becomes srs bidness when you want to claim the cabinet is restored as a dedicated...as if that's how it came from the warehouse.

If you just wanna play SF2 in something, I don't think a HS-5 is a bad choice at all.
 
I've never heard of HF being in a z-back...whereas CE's almost always were, hence being able to find a CE cpo at the bottom of the pile on almost any z-back conversion you see at auctions these days.

And as any self-respecting Bison player would tell you, CE > HF (not to mention CE has full specific art and HF is just a marquee...)
 
I restored a CE in a HS-5 and a WW in a HS-2. I've heard the only drawbacks about Z backs is access to the monitor, and the size and weight of the cab. I also heard that the HS-9 had a weak build issue.

Also if you look at the bottom of the ebay cab. Notice how it appears to be on a extension stand? Well it is, and the cab can be lowered about a few inches. That is another good thing about the HS-5. If you ever see one you want to buy. See if you can get a picture of the back door. On my brother's, he has not that much play room in the back to mess with the monitor. We never tried, but it will be a b!tch to get out if and when it needs too. But I heard not all HS-5's were like that.

My HS-2 has a full removable door to access everything. I have my restore threads somewhere on here if you want to take a gander.
 
I've never heard of HF being in a z-back...whereas CE's almost always were, hence being able to find a CE cpo at the bottom of the pile on almost any z-back conversion you see at auctions these days.

And as any self-respecting Bison player would tell you, CE > HF (not to mention CE has full specific art and HF is just a marquee...)

According to all the ops I talked to BITD, HF was definitely a Z-Back game. I think it is partially why there is no NOS Big Blue compatible HF marquee. My impression is it was one of the only dedicated games those cabinets shipped in. But this is going off of 10+ year old second hand info. The Z-Backs have the CE CPO because Capcom only changed the marquee for the art package (unless there is a different HF CPO floating around that I have never, ever seen in my 15 years of being OCD on this stupid subject :p).

There's no documentation to back up much of anything on these games anyways (outside of tags on the back of these cabs...and manuals only say so much), so I am always open to being wrong.

...and HAH! A Bison player would say CE > HF... ;)

Edit: Re: Challenger

Yeah. The two big downsides to a Z-Back is the super small cubby hole you have to look at the back of the monitor (always have a remote board installed) and that accessing the bottom half of the cabinet is a pain. There is no real "back door" to gain access. So don't drop anything down there.
 
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pardon my ignorance, because I never overanalyzed all the logistics of how the game's mechanics work, but why for a Bison player is CE > HF?
 
pardon my ignorance, because I never overanalyzed all the logistics of how the game's mechanics work, but why for a Bison player is CE > HF?

bison was top tier in CE with great specials, high priority normals, and he even had an infinite block string if timed properly. So in HF they nerfed him pretty hard, changed the properties of a bunch of his moves and even completely changed some of his normals.
 
Hyper was always my favorite over Champ. But Champ holds a place in my heart because it was TIGHT.

That reminds me.. I need a Hyper board...
 
I restored a CE in a HS-5 and a WW in a HS-2. I've heard the only drawbacks about Z backs is access to the monitor, and the size and weight of the cab. I also heard that the HS-9 had a weak build issue.

Also if you look at the bottom of the ebay cab. Notice how it appears to be on a extension stand? Well it is, and the cab can be lowered about a few inches. That is another good thing about the HS-5. If you ever see one you want to buy. See if you can get a picture of the back door. On my brother's, he has not that much play room in the back to mess with the monitor. We never tried, but it will be a b!tch to get out if and when it needs too. But I heard not all HS-5's were like that.

My HS-2 has a full removable door to access everything. I have my restore threads somewhere on here if you want to take a gander.



Thanks for the responses. That was my next question. Can the stand on the bottom be adjusted all they up so you can't see it or just removed? Sounds like in can be which will make it look better as a CE in my opinion.
 
Having Bison (the games actual end boss) being top tier with it's re-dizzy combo is not a reason to consider CE>HF. That's hogwash... CE is too slow and out of balance. Too many characters huddle at the bottom rung leaving everyone playing just a few of the top tier characters. What's the point in having 12 playable now. It was still to easy to dizzy...

HS5 came as CE ded also. I recently sold one with a SF3 Dynamo label in the back. This is their label for CE being the next SF game. (and not the actual SFIII CPS3 game)

All of the US art was rushed, haphazardly chosen and created w/ local artists and just sucks compared to the Japanese art. One of my dreams is to create a reboot of the HF or Super Turbo art for nearly full sideart ala the SF1 Dynamo template.

Back to the OP:

HS5s are great and better than Z-cabs. Rear monitor access is very important. Do you want to really pull the whole monitor just to tune colors on the neck board? HS5's have rear monitor access and sit really well against the wall etc. The monitor neck board goes right up against the back of the cab so it doesn't really have a rear door. There is a rectangular play that crews over the rectangular cutout in the back. It's more of an access panel than a "door."

HS5's are just a bigger variant of an HS2. HS1's lack the slide out drawer and the CP just flips down. HS5's have a base that should NOT be considered removable. Your sides would sit right on the floor and they'd get chewed up. The feet bases are built right into the corner braces of the HS5 base.
 
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You should check with your local distributor.

That is a little of an oxymoron I know because my favorite local distributor is about a 3-3.5 hour drive away.

Coin-op Warehouse sells the HS cabinets like they are out of style. They go for around 70-80$ without boards or monitors to 100-125 with monitors. I thought these were hard to find also until I started talking with and dealing with them.

B.T.W. I just bought a Z back from them and there is no joke about the small amount of monitor access. I have to shove my hands past the melamine permanent panels to adjust the monitor. It really does suck badly; but I would not trade it for another HS-2.
 
Pretty much what prairied said. There is a tier list (with bison at the bottom) and really fucked up match ups (balrog vs honda), but HF overall closes the tier gaps for most of the cast compared to ce. CE it is literally guile or bison ftw. The HF speed was a big improvement as well. If you don't play the game a ton, most of this probably doesn't matter.

Cool about the "sf3" info. So they came in hs5's as well. Holy crap these came in damn near everything!
 
I would love to see someone make this as SSF2 Turbo sideart. You could even use the logo and the top half of Akuma as a nice oversize marquee for big blues.


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This is the money piece of ST art IMO. One of the many side projects in the back of my head is to edit this up so it can be a Big Blue marquee. I want to make the art on my Super big blue ST...but the American version of ST did not have the most exciting art/marquee.

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