Star Wars Yoke Arriving

Damn Frizz... that's way too harsh. You really should try making something first before writing Dave off. Its a hell of a lot of work. Your point about adopting a "When its done" mentality is correct but saying Dave should be out of business? WOW. If Dave didn't do it no one would I am 110% sure of that.

Dave, you did a super job on the Yoke. I would definitely adopt a When its done motto though :)

Again... I tried to take that conversation private. My opinion is unchanged by those who disagree. I don't do business with and I encourage others not to do business with people who don't honor their word.

That simple.

PS: Maybe I should "create" something for the community... then I too can bullshit everyone with impunity... oh wait... I value my word... nevermind.
 
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I have an opinion the same as you do... I didn't even want to express it but was egged on by ArcReival...

What have YOU made for this community to make your opinion more relevant then mine? Hmmm? Why does anyone have to "produce" anything to have a relevant opinion anyway? It is what it is... one mans opinion. Take it, leave it, do what you wish with it.

I've always been a supporter of David. In fact (to toot my own horn) I was the one that coached him out of the shadows and to make an effort to re-establish his credentials in the community. David has told me much over the last couple years ... things that are private and not to be discussed. My word is my bond. I will however say I have heard first hand every freaking hurdle he's come across and believe me it ain;t been pretty. He's had a bitch of a time. As much as you hate to see it/hear it Frizz, David is necessary to this "hobby". I cannot excuse nor will I condone how David has "for what ever reason" jumped back into his old business practice ways. There is ZERO excuse for not communicating. It's ok to miss deadlines, it's ok to have unforseen issues arise, but it's NOT ok to say items have shipped when you know damn well they haven't. I'm very disspointed and sad to see how such a glorious and exciting project has turned into this nightmare. I still think the world of David but I can't defend/condone these latest actions. I say anyone that wants to complain can go hang out over at BYOAC and complain about it there.
 
I was done complainting. Arc asked a question... I said I'd prefer to answer that question in private... he egged me on to answer here... and I answered.

Am I supposed to sugar-coat my opinions here now? Jeff is now ignoring me for a simple opinion (that's real mature)... so be it. People can hate on me all they want... my opinion is my opinion... and it's just one. Sheesh.

I am but ONE GUY... and this is but ONE OPINION. Nothing more... nothing less.

Some folks value personal integrity more than others... I am one who values it A LOT.

BTW - I should probably have prefaced my opinion about closing up shop with "If he continues to BS people..." because SURE... I'd love to see him hang around and create stuff for the community... as long as he doesn't BS everyone along the way as he has done with the SW Yoke, the I-Robot parts, etc...
 
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I do have respect for my customers, which is why I respond to them when they contact me.

I am usually never the one to complain, but can you honestly say you have responded to every customer that contacted you?

I had sent an email and PM to you several weeks ago and have yet to get a response. I only sent one of each. In my message I stated all I was looking for was to make sure I was "on the list" making sure I wasn't lost in the shuffle. I also stated that all I was looking for was "Yep, your on my list and it's in process". That would have been good enough for me. Yet, no response.

So if you post a statement like this, please follow through even if it is bad news -- that is all I ask. I for one would rather be presented with bad news than be ignored. No need to post publicly, but a quick message goes a long way. I'm sure others would agree.
 
Again... I tried to take that conversation private. My opinion is unchanged by those who disagree. I don't do business with and I encourage others not to do business with people who don't honor their word.

That simple.

PS: Maybe I should "create" something for the community... then I too can bullshit everyone with impunity... oh wait... I value my word... nevermind.

That's fine... but you are certainly beating a dead horse bringing it up over and over and over and over.... you get the idea :)
 
Hey guys,

I'll be the first to admit that I have a problem with communication. I try and try, but sometimes I get overwhelmed with real life and everything else takes a back seat. I don't mean for this to sound like it does -- and, yes, I can totally see how that comes off, but really. I have a job that consumes much of my time and attention when things are going smoothly. When there's a bump in the road, it can consume ALL of my time and attention. Recently, one of these so-called "bumps" occured and I was forced to focus 100% of my soul to the situation at hand. I fixed the problem, but the aftermath lingered on for weeks. During this time, I was still answering emails as often as I could and answering phone calls as well, but I spent ZERO time on the forums. I see now that this is a real issue and I'm trying to improve upon it.

I really have to get this to sink in.....posting on the forum for updates is GOOD. Not posting is BAD. LOL I really thought that focusing on work and answering emails would suffice, but I was clearly mistaken. Seriously, for those of you that I left hanging, I sincerely apologize for it. I feel like I'm a contributing member of this group and the last thing I want to do is piss people off, freak people out, make you mad or upset, anger you or let you down.

Listen, everyone. I mean this, if I let you guys down, I'm sorry about it. ...and I'm talking about you, Deadly. It stings that I let YOU down of all people. I want to rise above all this crap flinging as much as possible, but I do knowingly allow situations in my life to get in the way of my hobby routinely. I'll promise to work on this more and make posting a priority.

As for saying it was shipping and then nothing, I do have an explanation for it, but it will just come off as more BS. Let me start by explaining something about me for those who don't know me too well and to reiterate for those who do know me.

Most of you already know this, but I'm very, very, VERY picky about details in the products I design/sell, items I buy, things I use, etc. This is true with my "real" business as well - I pay attention to those fine details that others would probably overlook. The way this plays out in my real job is that everything is still done on time and rarely does any project fall beyond my projected completion date. This is one reason why my business does so well, I suspect. Then there's RAM Controls.....

Perhaps I am wrong for having this viewpoint, but RAM Controls is a hobby to me. I make little or no profit on most items I produce, but that's OK. I'm not in this to make money, though what I do manage to pull in is a nice reward for the work that I do. I try to adopt completion dates which has thus far been a miserable failure, however. I've figured out why this doesn't work for RAM Controls, too. I don't have a team of employees helping me with these projects. 99% of the time, it's just me. On the rare occasion, I do "hire" some of my guys for a weekend to help with various processes, but I generally do it alone. RAM Controls would therefore be considered a one man show, so to speak. You can all appreciate that, I suspect.

Anyhow, the point is, I can let these projects linger on and on because A) I have no help and B) I'm picky as hell about the quality and perfection of my products. This only speaks of the long delays, though.

The only choices in front of me at this point with regard to completion dates would seem to be:

1. Stop using completion dates altogether.
2. Get some full time employees to help me.
3. Continue to use them but try to be more realistic on timeframes.

I'm leaning toward option 1, to be honest with you. This way, I don't lock myself into any timeframe and I don't give anyone false hope of having something completed sooner than it most likely will be finished.

In response to saying "it's shipped" and then nothing. Knowing all of the above, can't you see where this is going? It should be obvious (and it's not nearly as insidious as some of you would make it out to be). Havok even mentioned the difference as soon as he got his yoke. Why did it happen? Well, I jumped the gun. I had the part packed up and ready to go..... then I decided to make a last minute change that I THOUGHT would take a few minutes. I was about to ship and I decided to dump the cast handles and go with the machined handles. Then the crap hit the fan at work and everything went to hell. I SHOULD HAVE COMMUNICATED THIS DIRECTLY TO HAVOK, but I didn't. For this, I admit that I made a serious mistake in judgment and I feel bad about it.

I did receive a few phone calls and expressed my situation. I believe at least one of them posted about it, but I'm not certain. I even asked that they post for me because I was unable to focus on it at the time. I'm not excusing myself, but I wanted to illustrate that I did attempt a "fix" of sorts to cover myself while I dealt with my work issue.

After thinking this over and taking in everything that some of you have posted, I think the way for me to go is to stop giving out completion dates, getting rid of pre-orders and just focusing on what I do best - making parts! But I don't know how I'm supposed to handle the daily emails from people asking pointed questions about completion times. I have every intention to do what I say, but I fall short in this dept ALL THE TIME when it comes to getting things done on time. If RAM Controls made an adequate profit, I'd hire people to help me. Since RAM Controls is not the breadwinner in my lineup of responsibilities, I don't have that option available to me. I dump SO much money into this hobby as it is, some of you would think I was absolutely nuts if you knew the amount.

....and maybe I am a little crazy, but arcade games are my sole hobby in life and I'm not going anywhere. Love me, hate me, it's your call. Just know that I'm going to keep making these reproduction parts, even if I'm not "on time".... I'm sorry, but that's just the way it is. LOL And, yes, I'm going to communicate better from now on. Even if my world is falling apart, I'll make time to post and update? Ok? Friends? :)

Peace!

Dave
 
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I make it a point to email people, but I do sometimes let one or two slip by, especially when they are duplicates (though, I'm not saying yours was - in fact, I've seen nothing from you in my email). Email is one constant I can mostly control, so I try to make sure I'm good about responding to them.

As for PM's, I wasn't on this forum for many weeks, so I'm sure I didn't respond here.

As for your point. Agreed.

I am usually never the one to complain, but can you honestly say you have responded to every customer that contacted you?

I had sent an email and PM to you several weeks ago and have yet to get a response. I only sent one of each. In my message I stated all I was looking for was to make sure I was "on the list" making sure I wasn't lost in the shuffle. I also stated that all I was looking for was "Yep, your on my list and it's in process". That would have been good enough for me. Yet, no response.

So if you post a statement like this, please follow through even if it is bad news -- that is all I ask. I for one would rather be presented with bad news than be ignored. No need to post publicly, but a quick message goes a long way. I'm sure others would agree.
 
I've figured out why this doesn't work for RAM Controls, too. I don't have a team of employees helping me with these projects. 99% of the time, it's just me. On the rare occasion, I do "hire" some of my guys for a weekend to help with various processes, but I generally do it alone. RAM Controls would therefore be considered a one man show, so to speak. You can all appreciate that, I suspect.

Founded in 2005, RAM Controls produces quality reproduction controls for classic arcade games. Our staff is made up of several experts in the arcade manufacturing industry, with extensive experience in electronics & mechanical R&D, manufacturing, repair and part sourcing. Our key designers and production personnel have over 80 years of combined experience in the arcade business.


... just sayin'
 
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Guys, is it just my imagination or am I spending TOO MUCH time here on the forums now? I feel like I am. :)

Shouldn't I be building, shipping or designing something right now? LOL

Dave

P.S. ArrrrghH!!!
 
I have Dave's parts in 3 of my Machines. They are top of the line!!! I understand Dave does do this on the side, he has a real job. I understand and respect that people have there own opinions.

My opinion on this issue is Dave/ Ram Controls makes a awesome product, and is a great value to this Hobbie. I want to personally thank him for making my machines run better. I will continue to purchase from him. If I have to wait a little longer for what I order, I know it will be well worth the wait.

OH BTW the Star Wars Yokes are a Materpiece Dave!!!
 
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Thank you, I really appreciate the kind words. An occasional pat on the back goes a long way with me. :)

Speaking of the yokes, I'm SO anticipating some reviews to start popping up. I shipped out 36 yokes (!!!!) on Wednesday, so I should start seeing something sometime soon.

FYI to everyone: if you have a yoke pre-order in and you don't have yours by Tuesday of next week (trying to take into account long ship times to the Europe), your yoke is probably in the next shipment. The next shipment will take care of all the remaining pre-orders. I'll be reassembling another lot of yokes this weekend and SHOULD have them shipped next week. I should probably qualify that in some way, but if there's any delay, I will post about it, OK?

Dave
 
Dave ya got to know how bad it sucks getting kicked in teh head because I try diffusing the situation knowing more about you than what I would guess most people do. And not being able to discuss certain things has made it frustrating for me as well. Please tell me ANY KLOVian that wouldn't stick up for the friends or get pissed when someone starts talking shit about them? that's where I've been with this.

So bottom line - David has finally confessed that he's basically a one man show. Anyone care to think about how much effort goes into building one yoke? Shits gotta be machine pressed in and soldering ... yuck. And all while trying to keep up on all the other individual orders and being a supplier to people like Mylstar AND bring home the bacon and fry it up in a pan (heh)?
Look this is not an excuse or feel bad for David thread. It's time everyone knows the truth about your operation... and this truth makes it easier to understand why it takes so long to get an item. Being anal is a quality not a flaw. People are attacking out of pure well warranted frustration. Maybe it's time for you to ask for help. I'm certain there are plenty of people that would help you out even if it's simply trading labor for parts. This aspect is pure specualtion on my part of course. I think the world of you and you are truly an asset to this hobby regardless of your flaws. We all have our quirks/flaws. However you have to step up your game. Frizz is right .... no more deadlines. Adopt the "gets done when it's done" mentality. After all people waited how many years for this yoke right? You've always done right by me, you've always been up front and truthful about your "real" status. You know when you tell your kids, "Not telling me is the same as lying!" ...... I think you can see where I'm going with this. When you need help ask for it ... I'm sure you will receive.
 
Hey Deadly,

Thanks for standing by me. I appreciate it.

The truth of the matter is that I did have a quasi "staff" at one point in time. But, I am a one man show now. In the beginning, I had my business partner, my old project manager who retired from my real business and two button pushers.

We all know about how my partnership was severed in 2007. That was a real big mess, but I got through it. I've done a lot to distance myself from that one! Ok, so that's one helper gone, three helpers left.

When I left for Australia the SECOND time, I let go of my two button pushers (that's what I call our programmers) since I wasn't going to be around to design anything. Three gone, one helper left.

My old project manager who was my right hand man was the only "helper" I had left at this point. He was my equal as far as abilities. He helped me get a LOT done and he was worth far more than all the other previous helpers combined. Well, he passed away while I was in Australia. I will not comment beyond that - he was a very good long-time friend, so don't even go there.

That left me with no help and no interest in finding more help.

HOWEVER, I've been contemplating this subject for some time now. Many of you have personally offered to help me and I'm very much considering taking some of you up on the offers. I don't know how to make the long-distance thing work, but if you're in Southern California, let's talk. My main warehouse is down in El Cajon, my shop is in Huntington Beach and I have storage in Yorba Linda, Anaheim Hills and Riverside. Any of those places are either setup for working on this sort of thing or could easily be upgraded for such work. Heck, I'd be willing to bring parts to you and make a day of it.

I'm mostly OK right now, but I'd like to explore this idea some more.

Any comments?

Dave
 
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But I don't know how I'm supposed to handle the daily emails from people asking pointed questions about completion times.

"It'll be ready when it's ready"

Thank you for coming here and clearing the air. People's thoughts naturally tend to go in the direction of worst case scenarios when a lack of information exists, and especially in a forum where that lack of information can be discussed to death. So absolutely communication is key (as are no deadlines).

Congrats on getting such a fine product finished and shipped. Your work is appreciated, even by those of us who haven't yet had a need to buy your products.

Edit: sounds like it's time to update that business description Frizz quoted. :)
 
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I'm glad to be a part of this community. I hope that my temporary absence hasn't completely ruined my reputation. :)

I'll make it a point to stick around and post to help keep the imaginary scenarios to a minimum.

Actually, Friz made an excellent point about the text on my main page (don't tell him I said that, though). LOL

I've taken some good from all of this. There was some good constructive criticism embedded in this thread which I will act upon. Thanks for all the input, everyone.

Now, start posting REVIEWS of the yokes.... please, please, PLEASE!!!

Dave


"It'll be ready when it's ready"

Thank you for coming here and clearing the air. People's thoughts naturally tend to go in the direction of worst case scenarios when a lack of information exists, and especially in a forum where that lack of information can be discussed to death. So absolutely communication is key (as are no deadlines).

Congrats on getting such a fine product finished and shipped. Your work is appreciated, even by those of us who haven't yet had a need to buy your products.

Edit: sounds like it's time to update that business description Frizz quoted. :)
 
I was done complainting. Arc asked a question... I said I'd prefer to answer that question in private... he egged me on to answer here... and I answered.

Am I supposed to sugar-coat my opinions here now? Jeff is now ignoring me for a simple opinion (that's real mature)... so be it. People can hate on me all they want... my opinion is my opinion... and it's just one. Sheesh.

I am but ONE GUY... and this is but ONE OPINION. Nothing more... nothing less.

Some folks value personal integrity more than others... I am one who values it A LOT.

BTW - I should probably have prefaced my opinion about closing up shop with "If he continues to BS people..." because SURE... I'd love to see him hang around and create stuff for the community... as long as he doesn't BS everyone along the way as he has done with the SW Yoke, the I-Robot parts, etc...

Don't blame it on me. If you are going to come on here and rip on Dave at RAM every chance you get, then you should answer that question right here in front of everyone. It was a valid question that deserved a public answer. Why WOULD you want to answer it private ? So now we know how you feel about Dave and we know you are not a custmer of his. Let him do what he needs to do and let the people that ARE his customers work it out with him.
 
I have made some suggestions privately to Dave for a valid solution to his problems with being a "One Man" show. If he can implement what I have pointed out, everyone will be HAPPY, even Frizz.

Give him a chance to work out the logistics of what I have shared with him.

Let's not forget that the D2K art package took almost 2 years to come to everybody.
 
Don't blame it on me. If you are going to come on here and rip on Dave at RAM every chance you get, then you should answer that question right here in front of everyone. It was a valid question that deserved a public answer. Why WOULD you want to answer it private ? So now we know how you feel about Dave and we know you are not a custmer of his. Let him do what he needs to do and let the people that ARE his customers work it out with him.

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