Star Trek Voyager help?

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Hey guys,
I just picked up a Star Trek Voyager Cockpit.
It was advertised as non working but also that it was supposed to be working when it was shipped to them...so, what that's worth.

So here's what's going on.
When I first turned it on the PCB came on and the fans worked and it was beeping and the LED lights were flashing... Then All of a sudden when I went back to it 10 minutes later it wouldn't so anything. No fans, no lights, no nothing!!!
I am getting power to the monitor still.
I've never worked on a PC based game before so I hope someone can point me in the right direction.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
ERIC
 
Hey guys,
I just picked up a Star Trek Voyager Cockpit.
It was advertised as non working but also that it was supposed to be working when it was shipped to them...so, what that's worth.

So here's what's going on.
When I first turned it on the PCB came on and the fans worked and it was beeping and the LED lights were flashing... Then All of a sudden when I went back to it 10 minutes later it wouldn't so anything. No fans, no lights, no nothing!!!
I am getting power to the monitor still.
I've never worked on a PC based game before so I hope someone can point me in the right direction.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
ERIC

When I got my Voyager it was totally dead. Even the monitor appeared dead. My problem was a bad power supply. It's basically a computer power supply. Not sure if it's the same and a direct swap with an ATX computer power supply or not. I had a new in the box Voyager kit so I borrowed the power supply from that and the game fired up and was working. I then found a used power supply with the same model number but it came from a computer off Ebay. The wires coming out the power supply were shorter than the one that was in the game but long enough to work and had all the same plugs. I would start by checking voltages. Just like a ATX power supply if you unplug it from the CPU mother board it wont turn on unless you ground the green wire. You should be able to check voltages at the JAMMA connector with it connected.
 
When I got my Voyager it was totally dead. Even the monitor appeared dead. My problem was a bad power supply. It's basically a computer power supply. Not sure if it's the same and a direct swap with an ATX computer power supply or not. I had a new in the box Voyager kit so I borrowed the power supply from that and the game fired up and was working. I then found a used power supply with the same model number but it came from a computer off Ebay. The wires coming out the power supply were shorter than the one that was in the game but long enough to work and had all the same plugs. I would start by checking voltages. Just like a ATX power supply if you unplug it from the CPU mother board it wont turn on unless you ground the green wire. You should be able to check voltages at the JAMMA connector with it connected.

Hey Sam.
I grounded the green wire and as soon as I turned on the PS the fan started going. I was getting 10.5 from the 20 pin red/black wires.
BUT, when I plugged it back into the MoBo I still got nothing.

Any ideas? I'm assuming the ATX is good now.
 
Hey Sam.
I grounded the green wire and as soon as I turned on the PS the fan started going. I was getting 10.5 from the 20 pin red/black wires.
BUT, when I plugged it back into the MoBo I still got nothing.

Any ideas? I'm assuming the ATX is good now.

That doesn't sound right. Red and black should be +5 volts but some computer power supply's you need a load connected to it but I looked at some videos and it looks like you can test all voltages without a load. Here's the pin out for the ATX 20 pin plug. you need to test all the voltages as the MB most likely needs them to operate.
Here's some info that might help
http://leotardi.no-ip.com/html/pins/pin2.htm
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Here's a video

 
That was super helpful!
I was able to test all the voltages in the 20 pin and they all were correct except for the -12. It was -10.6
I'm not sure if that's the cause of my issue but I'd assume not.

What, besides a bad PS, would cause a motherboard to just go dead?
 
That was super helpful!
I was able to test all the voltages in the 20 pin and they all were correct except for the -12. It was -10.6
I'm not sure if that's the cause of my issue but I'd assume not.

What, besides a bad PS, would cause a motherboard to just go dead?

They just die. Off the shelf motherboards won't last forever. At my last job I
probably trashed a half dozen of those machines because I couldn't find a compatible
motherboard.

You need to start with a known good motherboard that will work with the
CPU on your Voyager motherboard. Sometimes you will get lucky and the
CPU is bad but the MOBO is still OK. If your CPU is good, then check the RAM
next. If all good, then recapping the MOBO may revive it, and then it may
not.

Just out of curiosity have you connected everything and jumped the terminals
for the power switch on the motherboard ? If the battery is/was dead, then it
won't start up until you jumper those terminals.

JD
 
They just die. Off the shelf motherboards won't last forever. At my last job I
probably trashed a half dozen of those machines because I couldn't find a compatible
motherboard.

You need to start with a known good motherboard that will work with the
CPU on your Voyager motherboard. Sometimes you will get lucky and the
CPU is bad but the MOBO is still OK. If your CPU is good, then check the RAM
next. If all good, then recapping the MOBO may revive it, and then it may
not.

Just out of curiosity have you connected everything and jumped the terminals
for the power switch on the motherboard ? If the battery is/was dead, then it
won't start up until you jumper those terminals.

JD

Hey John,
How would I go about checking the RAM?
Also how would I "Jump the terminals"?

Everything seemed to go dead once I took the old battery out and put another one in.
I say that meaning it worked before I went to get another battery and when I came back 10 or so minutes later I swapped batteries and got nothing...completely dead. I then put teh old battery back and still got nothing.
I'm not sure if it's a coincidence though since this is the first time I'm trying to use this game.
 
Hey John,
How would I go about checking the RAM?
Also how would I "Jump the terminals"?

Everything seemed to go dead once I took the old battery out and put another one in.
I say that meaning it worked before I went to get another battery and when I came back 10 or so minutes later I swapped batteries and got nothing...completely dead. I then put teh old battery back and still got nothing.
I'm not sure if it's a coincidence though since this is the first time I'm trying to use this game.

Also don't just check the 20 or 24 pin connector. Also test the other power connectors going to the hard drive and other points on the mother board. I don't remember how many of the plugs are used so test them all.Did you also have the 3.3 volts?
Was the battery you replaced on the mother board? If so you will have to reset the BIOS settings.
Dont mess with the one on the MegaJamma board, it looks like a battery but it's not, it's a security chip and the game wont work if it's bad.
The PDF files are to big to upload here so you can download them from TeamPlays web site or I can email them to you,
http://www.teamplayinc.com/Tech/Tech.html
I have never reset the BIOS on mine but it looks easy enough.
PS You will need a computer keyboard and monitor to set the BIOS
 
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Also don't just check the 20 or 24 pin connector. Also test the other power connectors going to the hard drive and other points on the mother board. I don't remember how many of the plugs are used so test them all.Did you also have the 3.3 volts?
Was the battery you replaced on the mother board? If so you will have to reset the BIOS settings.
Dont mess with the one on the MegaJamma board, it looks like a battery but it's not, it's a security chip and the game wont work if it's bad.
The PDF files are to big to upload here so you can download them from TeamPlays web site or I can email them to you,
http://www.teamplayinc.com/Tech/Tech.html
I have never reset the BIOS on mine but it looks easy enough.
PS You will need a computer keyboard and monitor to set the BIOS

Hey Sam,
I actually did check all the connectors, even the ones that didn't plug into the MoBo and they were all correct, 3.3 included.
I knew about the security chip and didn't touch it. It was the one on the Mobo... I'd love to be able to reset the BIOS! I'd have to get the Mobo to boot fist. :)

Any chance you could post a few picks of your cockpit Mobo set up?
There's a few unplugged connectors that I'd like to see where they go...
 
Hey Sam,
I actually did check all the connectors, even the ones that didn't plug into the MoBo and they were all correct, 3.3 included.
I knew about the security chip and didn't touch it. It was the one on the Mobo... I'd love to be able to reset the BIOS! I'd have to get the Mobo to boot fist. :)

Any chance you could post a few picks of your cockpit Mobo set up?
There's a few unplugged connectors that I'd like to see where they go...

Well I am not 100% sure but if you removed the battery from the mother board you lost the BIOS settings so you will have to reset them. The mother board being reset will not boot up when powered up. You have to short the start pins on the mother board to power up the mother board. One of the BIOS settings is to allow the board to reboot itself after a power failure which is now been reset so you need to start it by pushing a start button which it doesn't have so you have to short the pins on the mother board.
You will need a computer keyboard and computer monitor so you can set all the BIOS options.
Their are 2 different mother boards, the red board and yellow board which their are pictures in the instruction PDF showing the position of the start up pins.
Look at the PDF files on Team Plays web site.
Their are 2 different mother boards
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Well I am not 100% sure but if you removed the battery from the mother board you lost the BIOS settings so you will have to reset them. The mother board being reset will not boot up when powered up. You have to short the start pins on the mother board to power up the mother board. One of the BIOS settings is to allow the board to reboot itself after a power failure which is now been reset so you need to start it by pushing a start button which it doesn't have so you have to short the pins on the mother board.
You will need a computer keyboard and computer monitor so you can set all the BIOS options.
Their are 2 different mother boards, the red board and yellow board which their are pictures in the instruction PDF showing the position of the start up pins.
Look at the PDF files on Team Plays web site.
Their are 2 different mother boards


Hmmmmmmm... So you think the removing of the battery is actually the reason for the complete shut down?
I didn't think resetting the BIOS would do THAT! :p
I'll try to jump the power pins and set the BIOS and see if that works.

I'll report back the results.
 
Hmmmmmmm... So you think the removing of the battery is actually the reason for the complete shut down?
I didn't think resetting the BIOS would do THAT! :p
I'll try to jump the power pins and set the BIOS and see if that works.

I'll report back the results.

Yes it would do that.
 
Erik, I have stacks of ATX power supplies.. Grab a couple from me just in case..
They're free :) as these don't have -5 that I need for taito and williams
 
Erik, pulling the bios battery resets the motherboard's bios to factory default, which most likely is not set to turn on when power is applied. Jumper the pins to get it to turn on, then enter the bios and reset that setting. Different bioses use different terminology, but it should be something like "Power on settings" or "wake on power". Here's a pic of my Arctic Thunder's bios option "Power-Up State"

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Erik, pulling the bios battery resets the motherboard's bios to factory default, which most likely is not set to turn on when power is applied. Jumper the pins to get it to turn on, then enter the bios and reset that setting. Different bioses use different terminology, but it should be something like "Power on settings" or "wake on power". Here's a pic of my Arctic Thunder's bios option "Power-Up State"

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Sweet! Thanks Tom. I actually need to find a VGA monitor to hook up to it now :p
Mine is wall mounted!
 
If the power supply wasn't putting out all the correct voltages I would have started by replacing that first. I bet the CMOS battery you pulled was just fine..that game is from 2002 and modern CMOS batteries last for years. i've pulled good batteries off of dead mother boards before. So before you start just pulling and swapping parts ... you need to be close to 100% sure something is bad. Otherwise you are causing yourself more problems in diagnosing the game.

My bet is on the power supply.
 
If the power supply wasn't putting out all the correct voltages I would have started by replacing that first. I bet the CMOS battery you pulled was just fine..that game is from 2002 and modern CMOS batteries last for years. i've pulled good batteries off of dead mother boards before. So before you start just pulling and swapping parts ... you need to be close to 100% sure something is bad. Otherwise you are causing yourself more problems in diagnosing the game.

My bet is on the power supply.


The PS tested good on all voltages except the -12 which came in at -10.6

Before I pulled that battery and got myself into this mess the game appeared to be booting up but all I got was a white screen and no sound.
 
The PS tested good on all voltages except the -12 which came in at -10.6

Before I pulled that battery and got myself into this mess the game appeared to be booting up but all I got was a white screen and no sound.

My point exactly.. your -12 is not correct which probably supplys the audio power. If you had replaced the power supply first and NOT pulled the CMOS you might have a working game right now.
 
My point exactly.. your -12 is not correct which probably supplys the audio power. If you had replaced the power supply first and NOT pulled the CMOS you might have a working game right now.

Yeah, actually I pulled the battery because the game was non working. I wanted to reset the BIOS and see if that would make any difference... what I didn't anticipate was that it would cause a total blackout. :p
The game was doing nothing but the mobo appeared to be functioning.

I was getting nothing but a white screen. Could the low -12 cause that too?
 
Get a replacement power supply and see if it at least boots to the CMOS so you can set it up for game use. Do you have a manual for the game?
 
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