Star Trek: The Next Generation in Pinball Arcade!

This is cool, but I'm still amazed that people are dumb enough to pony up $55,000 so a multimillion dollar video game company can acquire the rights to these games for free.
 
This is cool, but I'm still amazed that people are dumb enough to pony up $55,000 so a multimillion dollar video game company can acquire the rights to these games for free.

You get the table for as little as a $10 pledge. You can also get it for multiple platforms if you pledge more. If they don't make the mark you don't pay.

I don't see the issue if the higher costs table they want to do an effective Pre-sale. Much better than never seeing the cool licensed based pins created
 
I saw a post from THe pinball Arcade proclaiming that they had just sold 3 million copies of the pinball arcade. Makes me wonder, if they are making, lets say as a conservative estimate, $2 per copy (and with all the tables you can buy as add ons, that's way too conservative). That's $6 million in revenue.

So tell me again why they need $55K so they can make even more money? I am a sucker and did give them $10, mainly because I want TZ on my iPad badly, but when you look at the math you have to wonder.
 
I saw a post from THe pinball Arcade proclaiming that they had just sold 3 million copies of the pinball arcade. Makes me wonder, if they are making, lets say as a conservative estimate, $2 per copy (and with all the tables you can buy as add ons, that's way too conservative). That's $6 million in revenue.

So tell me again why they need $55K so they can make even more money? I am a sucker and did give them $10, mainly because I want TZ on my iPad badly, but when you look at the math you have to wonder.


You're not giving them $10, so there's no reason to feel like a sucker. Your basically pre-ordering a copy of the game for $10. If the project is cancelled you pay nothing.

These Kickstarter projects are really more about the risk. Kickstarter allows a studio to protect themselves from buying an expensive license only to find out the demand is too small for the project to break even.

I think the Kickstarter trend is great. It has already let us see some things that would have never happened under the traditional studio funding (Wasteland, Double Fine's Adventure game, TZ pinball).
 
I saw a post from THe pinball Arcade proclaiming that they had just sold 3 million copies of the pinball arcade. Makes me wonder, if they are making, lets say as a conservative estimate, $2 per copy (and with all the tables you can buy as add ons, that's way too conservative). That's $6 million in revenue.

So tell me again why they need $55K so they can make even more money? I am a sucker and did give them $10, mainly because I want TZ on my iPad badly, but when you look at the math you have to wonder.


they are a company. companies are in it to make money. they did not want to carry the burden of $55K above and beyond their normal expenses in addition to royalties on every table sold.

they gave the fans an option to donate and get to play TZ or sit on the sidelines and the game never gets made. like, ever.

it boggles the mind why anyone would have a problem with this.
 
Because licensing is part of the cost of doing business.


ummmm.....they don't HAVE TO bring us TZ. at all.

they can bring us tables like monster bash, gorgar, medieval madness, black hole....a ton of games, and never have to pay above and beyond like they have to do to bring us TZ.

they went to the fans because THE FANS asked. repeatedly. they could have very easily looked into it, decided they don't care to take on the expense, and dropped it without ever saying a word....but they didn't....they gave us (the fans/the players) a chance to make our voices heard.

#mindboggling
 
I have mixed feelings on this. I can obviously see pudluthers point of view that they could easily cherry-pick easy licenses like Black Hole that don't require any third party involvement. They were able to do Ripleys Believe It Or Not without donations, though.

I've said it before, but I hated that Kickstarter video they did. The tone of it was so stupid and manipulative. They were obviously buying and keeping all the titles they are making (and some they haven't) since they claimed to have a full-time repairman on staff.

This is a company that has been in business for a long time, and I didn't really consider it to be in the Kickstarter spirit for someone like that to be passing the hat. Its starting to seem like they are going to be doing this for every title now.

I have supported them by buying Williams Pinball Hall Of Fame for both the Wii and 360. I have also purchased everything offered in Pinball Arcade for both the 360 and the iPad.
I guess I'm glad these tables are getting done, but it really doesn't seem like a mature company should need Kickstarter to do this.
 
I have mixed feelings on this. I can obviously see pudluthers point of view that they could easily cherry-pick easy licenses like Black Hole that don't require any third party involvement. They were able to do Ripleys Believe It Or Not without donations, though.

I've said it before, but I hated that Kickstarter video they did. The tone of it was so stupid and manipulative. They were obviously buying and keeping all the titles they are making (and some they haven't) since they claimed to have a full-time repairman on staff.

This is a company that has been in business for a long time, and I didn't really consider it to be in the Kickstarter spirit for someone like that to be passing the hat. Its starting to seem like they are going to be doing this for every title now.

I have supported them by buying Williams Pinball Hall Of Fame for both the Wii and 360. I have also purchased everything offered in Pinball Arcade for both the 360 and the iPad.
I guess I'm glad these tables are getting done, but it really doesn't seem like a mature company should need Kickstarter to do this.

yeah....the video was a bit cheesetacular.

fwiw, I don't think they're gonna go the kickstarter route from here on out on every table....just heavily requested and heavily licensed ones. they've already got 10 or so tables lined up and they aren't asking for anything on those.
 
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