Some people dont understand that sometimes you have to put them to sleep...

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Some people dont understand that sometimes you have to put them to sleep...

So most of you know I bought a broken Defender from a fellow KLOVer (and overpaid). I hoped to restore it and own a Defender once again. As luck would have it, there were simply too many problems functionally and cosmetically to make it economically salvageable. Power supply had probs, board had probs, monitor was shot and tube swapped with my Centipede, cabinet, control panel and marquee had sun and moisture damage and the bottom was starting to rot out.

Now, I am a college student with not the most money or to spend on arcade related joy. I would have loved to have tried to save it, but there was too much work that had to be done, and so little time and disposable income. I could tell it was going to become a money pit.

So I decide to part it out to help save other Defenders from the same doom. It was reasonably so. (Unlike the Centipede Cabaret that I almost junked, BUT DECIDED TO SAVE) And what do I get? I get bashed. Apparently, I "dont care about collecting" or I am "too lazy." But then again, the only games I have ever bought in working condition were my Centipede and Paperboy. All my other games have been repaired and a couple have been restored cosmetically also. Or in other words, I BOUGHT THEM BROKEN AND FIXED THEM. You dont see me parting out my partially working GORF project, do you?

Some people are too quick to bash others for their actions before they know the background of why they are doing so. I came to this site to have fun learning about fixing arcade games and wanted to get into the community of collecting and sharing knowledge and resources, not to be slammed for parting the one machine I cannot afford to repair.
 
I didn't read the thread you got bashed on, but I wouldn't take it personal if I were you.

The bashing you got is more about the idea of saving the games, not you in particular.

If people weren't taking a hard stance against part-outs then more would probably happen.
So I think it's a good thing to have guys protecting every single game whether it makes sense or not.

You know the truth. :O)
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I am all for saving games. I made several honest attempts including tinkering until 3am trying to get things to work. Its not like I didnt try to save it. Its not like I was having a small problem with a board in a Tempest and decided to part it out :)p). But if you look in the FS forums, youll see the comment that set me off.

Sorry, I just had to rant about it.
 
I parted out a TRON cuz the cabinet was toast. No one seemed to care too much. Made alot of other TRONS happy, as well as my wallet.
 
I parted a Battlezone because I was lazy and didn't know about vector graphics or this place. Some must die so others will live... Where do people think spare parts are coming from?
 
I parted a Battlezone because I was lazy and didn't know about vector graphics or this place. Some must die so others will live... Where do people think spare parts are coming from?

I parted out a TRON cuz the cabinet was toast. No one seemed to care too much. Made alot of other TRONS happy, as well as my wallet.

See what I mean?
 
I parted a Battlezone because I was lazy and didn't know about vector graphics or this place. Some must die so others will live... Where do people think spare parts are coming from?

Well no doubt spare parts come from games that got parted. This doesn't mean that fixable condition games should be parted. And my experience tells me that the 1 game dies so 5 or X amount of games can live is often not the case. Why? well how many time does a part pop up from a game you intend to own or build so you buy the part and put it on the shelf where it sits for years? Just about every collector I've known has done this. So many parts just go into storage not to save a game. Sure someday they may end up being sold and save a game but that could be years. Hell games that were parted 20 years ago or more by OP's are just poping up now in warehouse raids. No doubt some parts go to save/fix games but many do not. Also think how many people buy a part like a working board rather than fix the old one. What happens to the old one? In some cases it gets passed to someone who can fix it in others it ends up in the trash. In the latter case that's one less board in the world.

Try to also keep in mind how many games were parted in the past and all the parts that have come from operators warehouses. While I'm sure places that sell parts like Quarterarcade.com have parted many games, I'm sure many of the parts they have gotten are from games that were parted many years ago. I would also venture a guess that the majority of games they part now are beat to hell and falling apart or for the most part undesirable titles.

I think my point is that while it is true that you own the game so you can do with it as you please. The idea that parting a repairable classic game should be cool, ok, or accepted on a site that is meant to be dedicated to collecting and preservation of these classics is wrong. Often times games are parted because the owner doesn't have the ability to fix it which can be sad as some games only take a small amount of money and a little knowledge to fix. So when people start getting the "it's ok to part it out mentality" it's a bad thing IMO as perfectly good games (possibly even rare) will end up parted when a totally fixable part like the monitor or power supply dies. Heck most parts are fixable so if you're not willing to pay the money to have it fixed why not sell the game whole as is to someone that will fix and enjoy a classic? To me this is a better option than parting.
 
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Do what you want. As stated earlier, its your game.

I have parted out a couple of Tempests, a Tron and a few other games that were beyond repair. Who the hell cares what other people think or say; I sure do not.

I can understand your need to rant though.

Game on!

-Tom
 
From what I have learned if your parting out a game - Ebay or craigslist it. DO NOT and I repeat DO NOT offer it on this webpage.

If you want to get beat to the ground and bitched about your prices and how much of a child molesting terrorist you are then you should sell parted out games here.

If I ever parted one of my games it would never be listed at KLOV bottom line.

I know enough people on this site that if I had a part worth selling to a fellow collector, I would simply message them.

Sucks.
 
What a bunch of Nancys! Sheesh... almost as if people bitching about you parting out something equals them being at your door ready to pop you in the nose. Am I the only one that can effectively ignore people giving me a hard time about something? You guys really avoid posting here when parting out cabs for fear of the backlash? Really?
 
As the head gatekeeper of the KLOV cemetary, your decision and reason for parting sounds legitimate to me. Some can't be and just aren't worth saving but there's always someone out there willing to buy the parts on Ebay. That being said, i need to get back to digging holes for the 20+ that i'm about to lay to rest. Who wants to etch a few headstones for me, i'm very busy.
 
Chances are if you reported this on another site not much would've come of it simply because the vast majority of preservationists call this forum home.

I think it's quite simple to nail this down. If a classic is killed because you can't afford to restore it not because it's too far gone then yes it is wrong. They aren't making this anymore ... when they are gone they are gone.

Eventually all cabinets will have the word MAME or Arcade Classics on it anyway ;-)
 
So most of you know I bought a broken Defender from a fellow KLOVer (and overpaid). I hoped to restore it and own a Defender once again. As luck would have it, there were simply too many problems functionally and cosmetically to make it economically salvageable. Power supply had probs, board had probs, monitor was shot and tube swapped with my Centipede, cabinet, control panel and marquee had sun and moisture damage and the bottom was starting to rot out.

Now, I am a college student with not the most money or to spend on arcade related joy. I would have loved to have tried to save it, but there was too much work that had to be done, and so little time and disposable income. I could tell it was going to become a money pit.

So I decide to part it out to help save other Defenders from the same doom. It was reasonably so. (Unlike the Centipede Cabaret that I almost junked, BUT DECIDED TO SAVE) And what do I get? I get bashed. Apparently, I "dont care about collecting" or I am "too lazy." But then again, the only games I have ever bought in working condition were my Centipede and Paperboy. All my other games have been repaired and a couple have been restored cosmetically also. Or in other words, I BOUGHT THEM BROKEN AND FIXED THEM. You dont see me parting out my partially working GORF project, do you?

Some people are too quick to bash others for their actions before they know the background of why they are doing so. I came to this site to have fun learning about fixing arcade games and wanted to get into the community of collecting and sharing knowledge and resources, not to be slammed for parting the one machine I cannot afford to repair.

No one was pointing a gun at your head when you bought that game were they ? Sorry if i struck a nerve, but I am tired of people buying games and then just parting them out because they lack time, money, space, initiative, or whatever else is getting between them and restoring a game. You said you are here to learn how to fix games. This would have been the perfect one to do it on. If you have bought and fixed that many games then you should have known what you are getting yourself into. You would have parted that Centipede mini in a heartbeat if we hadn't talked you out of it. At the very least, you could have offered your Defender as a project to someone before parting it.

Games should not have to get parted out because "collectors" don't buy responsibly.
 
Well, I'll voice my opinion.

I want a Defender BAD, and I'm not thrilled to hear that there is about to be one less in the world. But, it happens. I'm 18, and I feel ya on the time and money thing... I had a piece of shit Race Drivin' a year or two ago... parted it out, and moved on. The money I got from that game fueled my hobby for a good 10 months. Your cabinet sounds beat to all hell and heavily water damaged... I saw the pics, and I, personally, would save it. But, that's because its my big grail. For you, if its not, go ahead and part it out. I see no reason why people should bitch.

Anyways, I've heard you can practically spit up in the air and it'll land on a Defender cabinet out west... some people are hoarding like 4 or 5 of those things EACH.
 
Defenders are plentiful. They made 60,000 of 'em. Practically all of the part-outs that occur today help other games come back to life. Just like with classic cars.
 
i only part games if:
they are generic cabs
water logged or flat out beyond being fixed.

i have built entire cabinets from scratch to reuse the parts in a game. but not everyone has the ability to do so. if its a jamma cab i could care less what anyone does to it, the monitors are worth more than jamma shit anyways.

oh yeah, defender sucks so who cares really
 
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