So, how much would you pay for a Dedicated Major Havoc?

It's a great game and as rare and as expensive as it is, it's not for everyone. I'm interested to see what serious people who would want one would pay more than those who don't have an interest.... I think $3k would be my limit.

If one was not working, what would be the max it could cost to get running?
 
I paid $3,500 plus a little under $500 to have one shipped to me just under 2 years ago. It is in exceptional condition, and I had no problem paying that for the game. Anyone who says that a complete dedicated Major Havoc in decent shape isn't worth $2,000 or more isn't in the market for one anyway.

Think of it this way. There were no more than 500 of these built. It is a vector game that came with an Ampliphone monitor. It has a unique control scheme with a proprietary controller that was only used on this one game. It can NOT be emulated in a satisfactory manner that resembles the original cabinet UNLESS you take a space duel or tempest conversion of the game and hack the control panel to retrofit it with a RAM Controls reproduction roller. I know for a FACT that some of them were converted, because many years ago I purchased one that had been converted to an Arkanoid, so that I could restore it. Unfortunately, back then there were NO reproduction parts, so I gave up and sold it to another collector. So, a decent number of the original 500 units are most likely no longer even out there. Put all of these factors together, and you have a very desireable and valuable machine.

When Ferrari sets out to make a limited production vehicle, they determine how many total units they can sell without any trouble. Once they make that determination, they make ONE LESS than that number. This way, they know that SOMEWHERE out there there is ONE GUY who wanted the car and could not purchase it, driving the values up. With the Enzo, they figured that there would be 400 people willing to pay $650,000 for their "ultimate street car", so they built 399 units. With the new 599 GTO, which is rated at the SAME horsepower than an Enzo, but is actually a better performing vehicle, they are building 599 units at a more attractive $450,000. I would absolutely LOVE to be #600 on the GTO waiting list, but guess what??? ALL 599 units were allocated to "special" Ferrari customers before the car was even announced that it was being built. What do you think the price of this car will be in the secondary market???

While there certainly are NOT enough people in this small KLOV community willing to pay over $2,000 for a Major Havoc, there are SURELY enough people out there (outside of the KLOV forums) who ARE. So, my advice to the original poster is to buy the game, fix it, and if you don't like the game, put it on Ebay with a reserve price that you are comfortable with...
 
MtZRcade said:
Also, you have to find the person that has more money than brains.
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There will always be a person that has more money than sense. Last one I saw that sold on ebay went for about 5K if I recall correctly and this was less than a year ago.
 
It's worth 200.00 now that the cabinets are being reproed along with all the other parts needed to make one..
 
LeeB99 said:
When Ferrari sets out to make a limited production vehicle, they determine how many total units they can sell without any trouble. Once they make that determination, they make ONE LESS than that number. This way, they know that SOMEWHERE out there there is ONE GUY who wanted the car and could not purchase it, driving the values up. With the Enzo, they figured that there would be 400 people willing to pay $650,000 for their "ultimate street car", so they built 399 units. With the new 599 GTO, which is rated at the SAME horsepower than an Enzo, but is actually a better performing vehicle, they are building 599 units at a more attractive $450,000. I would absolutely LOVE to be #600 on the GTO waiting list, but guess what??? ALL 599 units were allocated to "special" Ferrari customers before the car was even announced that it was being built. What do you think the price of this car will be in the secondary market???
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Pretty sure the number they decide to build has nothing to do with "1 less" than they think they can sell. You can't believe all you read on wikipedia. :) Limited production is definitely on their minds though.

Wade
 
I was unimpressed with the game when I played it at CAX a couple years back. Sure, I'd buy one cheap to flip, but I'd never pay more than $800-$1000... and even at those prices it would simply be an investment. The game pretty much blows IMHO.
 
That's a tough one. If it is complete and not abused (drilled for security bars, busted monitor box), I would pay $1500. That is a standing offer. I'll pick it up as well. I live locally. Completely working I'd pay $1800. I'm not sure where people are getting $5K for one. Good luck with that. A photo of the cabinet might help to give a better estimate. I might offer more if the cabinet is very clean. For reference, I bought a complete working Quantum for $1400 so I'm not sure if today's market will justify the $3K that people have paid in the past for MH and Quantums. The only "fair" price I know of are ones where people are willing to put money where their mouth is so to speak. If you get a better offer, take it. Post the results so people will know what they sell for the next time they ask. Good luck and congrats with your find.
 
Seeing as that someone else in this thread says that they will pay $3,500 for one, coupled with the fact that is how much I personally paid for mine, seems to be a pretty good indication of what someone who is serious is willing to pay. Everyone else on here who is saying that they would buy one for under $2,000 is wanting to flip the game for a profit. Nothing wrong with that, but they are saying that they wouldn't pay more than $2,000 for the game with the INTENTION of then finding someone who would pay $3,500 or more.

As for the Ferrari statement, it is common knowledge that the Enzo production was capped at 399 specifically because they KNEW that they could easily sell 400 of them. I didn't get that information from Wikipedia, this is something that has been stated by numerous sources over the years...
 
Nope, I wouldn't be flipping it. With over 15 vector games in my current collection and tons of spare vector parts, I think I could be considered a "serious"collector. Yeah, I know most of mine aren't working. I'm making room for them by dumping the rest of my stuff first. I'm a little short on free time right now and hope to get around to them one by one eventually. I'd sell my factory SD conversion if I got this one. My thinking, without seeing the game, I wouldn't offer more. Tough to purchase a game like this sight unseen. What's the artwork like? Bottom T-molding, water damage, track roller? Does the board set need work? I've got 1 working MH board and 4 non-working. What are the odds his are problem free? I've got lots of vector boards that play blind but when you hook them up to a monitor they are obviously whacked. Monitor probably needs repair. Forementioned possible damage to cabinet. How many monitor boxes have you seen where one or more corners are NOT broken on Firefox cabs etc? Without knowing the answers to these questions,I'd still only pay what I offered. Repairs cost money and time. If he can get more for it, as-is, great. Go for it. Money talks, BS walks. Again, just because you paid $3K+ for one doesn't mean he will get $3K for his in today's market. You probably had a lot more information to go on when you purchased yours. I'm not lowballing, I'm making an offer. Offers are negotiable. If you'll reread my post, I did say I would pay more depending on condition but will not blindly offer $3K for something I haven't seen. Just giving him the facts. I'm not disagreeing with you, just enlightening. To OP, good luck with your purchase/sale etc. I hope you get $5K for it so you can buy a lot of games that you really want. If you don't, my offer still stands.
 
I find it interesting that most on here say they wouldn't pay $3k for an ultra-rare and cool game but most nice pinballs are at least that... And I know a lot of guys with several pins worth that much that feel the same way.....
 
komodo said:
That's a tough one. If it is complete and not abused (drilled for security bars, busted monitor box), I would pay $1500. That is a standing offer. I'll pick it up as well. I live locally. Completely working I'd pay $1800. I'm not sure where people are getting $5K for one. Good luck with that. A photo of the cabinet might help to give a better estimate. I might offer more if the cabinet is very clean. For reference, I bought a complete working Quantum for $1400 so I'm not sure if today's market will justify the $3K that people have paid in the past for MH and Quantums. The only "fair" price I know of are ones where people are willing to put money where their mouth is so to speak. If you get a better offer, take it. Post the results so people will know what they sell for the next time they ask. Good luck and congrats with your find.
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What you paid has nothing to do with what the game is worth. I paid $350 each for my MH and quantum.. What does that mean..

You won't know what its worth until you put it up on ebay. Nut I would think dedicated MH not working would fetch $1500-$2k no problem.. As for broken, you can get a replacement pcb for $200-$400. Repairing the monitor is a $75-$300 job.. Fully working MH I think sells no problem $2500-$3k easy.
 
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Kinda weird, but I never knew Major Havoc was rare until I read it here. The reason is that I had 3 Spaceports within a few miles of where I lived and each of them had a dedicated cab.

Very cool looking machine, but honestly the gameplay doesn't really grab me. I'd rather spend the cash on a really nice pin or a a whole row of more common games.
 
This thread makes me laugh. For those of you that want one of these but aren't willing to spend more than $1000 have you ever stopped to wonder why you don't have one and never will?
 
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