Smash TV & Total Carnage = 1 cab??

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How would I go about installing both these games into the same cabinet?? I have a smash tv cab and would like to have both games in it. I'm a nube so if this is a stupid ? sorry in advance...
 
Im in the exact same situation and would love to know myself.

I beleive you have to get a 2 board jamma selector. And wire up a button, so u can switch between both games.

However i think one board uses like -5V or something like that and one doesnt.

Also not sure if you can have total carnage running off the same sound board.

So yes not much help, but im curious as well :)
 
this can be done. you're only talking about running 2 games, so pick up the JAMMA 2-in-1 switcher. if I'm not mistaken, the switcher goes in the middle of the two boards, you plug them in side by side like, and the cabinet's JAMMA harness goes to the switcher in the middle. you'll have to do a little rearranging on the wooden PCB mount, you might ideally remove the whole thing when placing your game boards, should just be 3 1/4" hex heads, but I've never dealt with the inside of a Smash TV cab before so I don't know.

otherwise you'll have to get JAMMA extensions, and the resistance from running those means you have to crank the +5V on the power supply... not something I would personally do.

that's really all there is to it, you'll have to double check that your cabinet JAMMA harness is wired for -5V though, I too think the older Williams stuff didn't need it, but I could be wrong. if it helps any, my Terminator 2 cab has a -5 line in it, so maybe they came wired that way regardless.

and of course you have to have both main boards, both sound boards, and all the appropriate interconnect wiring, as well as two separate volume pots. (50k ohm, you can get em at Radio Shack cheap if you don't have any)
 
Both have the same pinout. I used to have both games in 1 cabinet. Nothing special, I just moved the harness from one board set to the other. The -5v was connected. If one game didn't use it, it didn't matter. Usually, on the Jamma games, if a game didn't need the -5v it just wouldn't have a trace on the pcb, so it didn't matter if it was connected or not. As far as the sound, both boards had their own sound board. If I remember correctly, the power for the sound pcb came off the main pcb anyway. You could check out www.mutigame.com for a jamma switcher. There are others but Clay's just comes to mind. Good luck, love both games. " Big Money, Big Prizes, I Like It!"
 
" Big Money, Big Prizes, I Like It!"

While you may "like" it, I LOVE IT! :p ha ha

I am going to do this too, just gotta get a 2-1 switcher.

If I may ask, for those of you who have revision 8 ROMS (Pleasure Dome) installed, does, when you enter the P.Dome, the screen go kinda loopy for you? Making it tough to see what is happening? This is the first boardset I have had with revision 8 ROMS so I don't really know. But I even have an extra set of Rev. 8 ROMS, so I installed them last night, but no change, the room still goes haywire..

Is this supposed to happen? :confused:
 
While you may "like" it, I LOVE IT! :p ha ha

I am going to do this too, just gotta get a 2-1 switcher.

If I may ask, for those of you who have revision 8 ROMS (Pleasure Dome) installed, does, when you enter the P.Dome, the screen go kinda loopy for you? Making it tough to see what is happening? This is the first boardset I have had with revision 8 ROMS so I don't really know. But I even have an extra set of Rev. 8 ROMS, so I installed them last night, but no change, the room still goes haywire..

Is this supposed to happen? :confused:

the crazy flashing colors, yes, that's normal. I never got to it on our old arcade machine back in the 90s, cause I think ours was 5.00, but I did it in MAME and was like omgwtfbbq when I saw it.

and yes, there's two sets of connections to the sound board, one's the power/speaker harness (the 6 wire connector) and the ribbon data cable. and in the case of these games, there's the volume pot too.

if you don't have manuals for them, you can pull them up on http://arcarc.xmission.com/PDF_Arcade_Manuals_and_Schematics/ viewable with Adobe Reader.

if you're missing any of the wires, let me know.

btw: does anyone know what the original joysticks were for these? I know they're Wico leafs, but what was the shaft length, and do you know where to get them? I wish I had 4 of them for my Smash TV boardset :(
 
the crazy flashing colors, yes, that's normal. I never got to it on our old arcade machine back in the 90s, cause I think ours was 5.00, but I did it in MAME and was like omgwtfbbq when I saw it.

and yes, there's two sets of connections to the sound board, one's the power/speaker harness (the 6 wire connector) and the ribbon data cable. and in the case of these games, there's the volume pot too.

if you don't have manuals for them, you can pull them up on http://arcarc.xmission.com/PDF_Arcade_Manuals_and_Schematics/ viewable with Adobe Reader.

if you're missing any of the wires, let me know.

btw: does anyone know what the original joysticks were for these? I know they're Wico leafs, but what was the shaft length, and do you know where to get them? I wish I had 4 of them for my Smash TV boardset :(


Thanx for explaining that, was hoping there was not a problem with my Pleasure Dome...
And I do believe that the game used 4" sticks as I do remember playing the game BITD when it first came to Fun N Pizza and it had sticks that stuck up farther than their Robotron, which was right beside it.
 
Thanx for explaining that, was hoping there was not a problem with my Pleasure Dome...
And I do believe that the game used 4" sticks as I do remember playing the game BITD when it first came to Fun N Pizza and it had sticks that stuck up farther than their Robotron, which was right beside it.

ah, I thought they rode lower. our High Impact Football had very low joysticks. part about that game that infuriated me was they made player 2 left-handed lol.

I just bought some sticks today though, hope they clean up nice and work well. I have to replace the CP anyway, I think it's thinner than 3/4. (Double Dragon cab)
 
ah, I thought they rode lower. our High Impact Football had very low joysticks. part about that game that infuriated me was they made player 2 left-handed lol.

I just bought some sticks today though, hope they clean up nice an:Dwork well. I have to replace the CP anyway, I think it's thinner than 3/4. (Double Dragon cab)

Good luck with them, they are cat's meow concerning 8-way action! And heck if you do like them lower then some sort of wooden shim should do trick to shim them down, though might have to enlarge the joystick holes a bit for full action.

And although I never played High Impact Football, the left handed side would work nicely for me. :D
 
Good luck with them, they are cat's meow concerning 8-way action! And heck if you do like them lower then some sort of wooden shim should do trick to shim them down, though might have to enlarge the joystick holes a bit for full action.

And although I never played High Impact Football, the left handed side would work nicely for me. :D

I think only the 2-player dedicateds were like that. that's what we had, incidentally it was the first game we got that had one of those removable AC cords. lol, probably the big XT style Peter Chou inside there. :p

the 4 player ones look like they're all right-handed. thought I might be thinking of Super High Impact too.

now I feel like a spammer in this thread. lol but yeah, I wanna go "Multi-Williams" style with the 4 joysticks with buttons in-between (HImp actually only used 1 button)

we'll see though. I too might have to get one of those 2-in-1 switchers.
 
Well after viewing a couple Youtube videos of Pleasure Dome action, I can say with certainty that my Pleasure Dome is wacky! On mine the whole screen "pulsates" along with the flashing lights; I have to lean back and squint to see what is going on.. I will try to get a video of it upoaded.
 
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I've been lagging, but I'll try to take some pix like i promised and send to M_Mcgovern so he can post. I have smashtv, total carnage and robotron w/jamma adapter running in mine... Robotron kicks a$$.. actually think I prefer it this way to the dedicated. Sticks are easier on my hands and it has a larger screen and better sound. I've got jammatized Tapper and Berzerk pcbs and would like to explore adding those, although berzerk might not feel right as it needs a button and I don't like the idea of butchering the cp. Crazy climber would probably work nice also... SmashTv is awesome because it has so much space inside you can add lots of games to it. I couldn't get clays multi jamma to work so I'm using Mike's 2-in-1. I have one harness connected to smashtv and reach in through the coin door to physically swap the harness between robotron and total carnage. I probably will end up throwing tapper in to see how it does.

Tom
 
Well after viewing a couple Youtube videos of Pleasure Dome action, I can say with certainty that my Pleasure Dome is wacky! On mine the whole screen "pulsates" along with the flashing lights; I have to lean back and squint to see what is going on.. I will try to get a video of it upoaded.

might be a monitor adjustment. if your color drives or contrast are too high you'll have some blowouts, it's definitely not good for the tube.

I can't speak on this cause I've never seen it on an actual arcade machine, only in MAME in the quiet confines of my LCD monitor. :p

I generally run my stuff a little darker. has your monitor been capped recently, what are you running?
 
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