Side Art From Hell

I just did a Tempest last week with the heated razor tool, and it came off really easily, except for the lower foot of that cabinet and around the edges where that cab had gotten wet. Any spot that was wet and one point, it was miserable. I almost had to chisel it off. It will take some bondo work to smooth out.

Is that the case with the Star Wars cab?
 
Quit fucking around with the heat gun and razor blade Jon, go to home depot or lowes and get yourself a gallon of liquid/paste power stripper (not that citrus Strip crap either) that eats through several layers of paint. Brush it on liberally and walk away for 15 minutes. Come back with a putty knife and watch your art peel off like a rubber band.
 
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Quit fucking around with the heat gun and razor blade Jon, go to home depot or lowes and get yourself a gallon of liquid/paste power stripper that eats through several layers of paint. Brush it on liberally and walk away for 15 minutes. Come back with a putty knife and watch your art peel off like a rubber band.

+1!!! Used that on my Ice Cold Beer and worked great... Decided to strip the vinyl off m Pepper II before it went into storage and yup... less than 20 minutes!
 
Yes - Star wars has some good adhesive. I got both sides off i think 3 hours each side using heat gun and sander. It was brutal.

I know this is a MUCH SMALLER scale, but On a Crystal castles CP and marquee yesterday - i used some of that Soygel you suggested in the past. Its important to note the label - "the longer the better". I left it on for 24 hours and it tore through the artwork, which was very stubborn.

You can try using that if you have any left over. I would suggest letting it sit for at least 36 hours.....
 
Let us know how it goes.

If the stuff doesnt cut through it, its easily wiped off - i was doing it barehanded that stuff seems pretty safe just dont get it in your eyes.

I note from my experience that the time on is the most important factor. I left it on for 35 minutes and was upset that it wasnt peeling - i then tried a heat gun and even a blow torch to the CP and just gave up on that.

My only choice then was to go back to the gel - I decided to leave it overnight, the only thing i had to lose was the time. Next day, peeled right to the frame even the adhesive was gone.
 

I saw someone using this on an Attack from mars - seems effortless.

If i had 3+ games lined up to do i would easily justify the cost - wish i knew about this right when i started collecting. For now, i dont have any projects lined up, and if another does come my way i will just do the damned heat gun / gel approach.

Stripping sideart i equate to women giving birth - you b*tch about the pain of it, but its quickly forgotten when the next game needing it comes along.
 
maybe I read something wrong in your op
but star wars is screened on matt black vinyl which covers the entire cab
its one full piece with gloss black screened on it.

now the phoenix art I believe is plotter cut to the shape of the gloss black print
and was done on white vinyl and dosnt go to the cab edge.
but dont quote me on that.

+1 on the gel to get that off
 
Since Atari used a method of heat adhesion for the vinyl to be adhered to the particle board they used...and then silkscreened directly onto the vinyl your going to find sometimes that that stuff is bitch to remove..seems some of the cabinet or vinyls had very good bonding..while other adhesive did not..guess your the lucky one..
 
Sounds like its doing its thing. I think what gave me faith was the "Longer is better" from the label - and i did notice improvement after a few hours. I dont think i ever waited more than an hour on anything before (besides paint drying!) but in this case i just went with it.

I am really hoping it works for you - tomorrow! If you you get a little deeper into the art tomorrow but not completely through (thats what i predict for the morning) at least you know another 12 hour wait will cut through it. By the way what i really like about that stuff is it cuts through enough to kill the adhesive layer so you dont have to clean up that sh*t.

If not let us know so i know i can avoid it down the line (at least for certain side arts). If that doesnt work, i've had good results with Blix stripper - cans got skulls and crossbones on it, pretty potent.
 
Holy crap what in the hell did Atari do with this side art? OK... I applied Soy Gel this morning at around 8AM... I figure I'll give it a go... it's been 8 and a half hours...

The exposed vinyl part without screening (the border of the cabinet essentially) now comes off like I am pulling a rubber balloon off the damn thing... it just peels right off.

The screened portion (ie: 90% of the freakin cabing)...

...it's no better than it was last night! Well... that's probably a lie... it may be a TINY TINY TINY big easier but it's still absolutely FUSED to the freakin wood. No peeling at all...every bit has to be essentially "chiseled" off with a razor blade... and half the time it leaves material behind or removes some of the wood...

I guess I will add a little more soy-gel and wait until tomorrow...





Since the silkscreen is silked directly to the vinyl... what in the hell is causing the extra adhesion? Does silkscreening involve heat? If so, perhaps the rubber-like vinyl below it "melted" in to the wood?

I dunno...it's just some seriously tough stuff...

Apparently i was talking out of my ass in my earlier post. Get yourself some of this stuff Jon and quit dicking around with the earth friendly shit. If you see a skull and crossbones, you have the right stuff.

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Your art should look like this in about 15-20 minutes and trust me, there was no hot knife, heat gun or wishful thinking that would even touch it without pulling large chunks of wood.



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Looks like Chris has the answer. This side art is laughing it's ass off at Soy Gel. This morning it's EXACTLY the same as it was yesterday... except now the vinyl border is easier to pull off. The actual art portion itself is as stuck on today as it was 24 hours ago before I put the Soy Gel on it...

Chris... my garage is attached to my house with my kid in it... the wife bitches when I paint... is this stuff going to get me in trouble?

Open the garage door.
 
Looks like Chris has the answer. This side art is laughing it's ass off at Soy Gel. This morning it's EXACTLY the same as it was yesterday... except now the vinyl border is easier to pull off. The actual art portion itself is as stuck on today as it was 24 hours ago before I put the Soy Gel on it...

Chris... my garage is attached to my house with my kid in it... the wife bitches when I paint... is this stuff going to get me in trouble?

Sorry to hear it. Bring on the big guns and open the windows!
 
Primer a no-no due to the chemical reaction it releases even days after it get traped under new 3m sideart and will bubble even if you put it on smooth.
 
quit dicking around with the earth friendly shit. If you see a skull and crossbones, you have the right stuff.

classic! I need to make that my new signiture :D

Jon yeah the screen inks are "hot" and melt into the vinyl thats what helps give them theyre stick. if/when you get that off you should see some art color stained into the wood

Chris is absolutly right you need something thats gonna burn through that to make life easier. outside a beltsander.

but you will need to be well venilated.
 
I finally took Chris's advice on my ICB... That "earth friendly" stuff didn't like that wood grain vinyl. Not sure it was the same brand or not but it "burned my fingers" so I knew it was the right stuff... Jon, just roll it on your driveway and strip away!!! Then wipe it down good and let it sit out for awhile and you should be fine.
 
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