SF Rush Alcatraz - Dead Monitor - Newbie needs suggestions

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SF Rush Alcatraz - Dead Monitor - Newbie needs suggestions

I picked up a San Francisco Rush - Alcatraz Edition last Sunday and it worked great until Monday evening. While playing, the display started changing.

It would usually start with both a horizontal line and vertical line at the same time making four quadrants on the screen.

Other times there would be a 2 inch vertical strip down the center and the pics on the left and right would be angled toward the center. Most of the car would be missing from the display where it ran into the line.

Or there is a thin white horizontal line across the screen and the pics above and below appear sloped toward the line.

Sometimes the screen would also shrink.

Eventually, the screen would shrink down to a dot or small line in the center. After a second or two, it would come back on to a fairly good pic..but then start the process of failing again. On Wednesday night, the monitor died completely. All connections are tight ( I removed all connectors to the boards/power and replugged to ensure they were secure). There is no noise coming from the monitor.
From the sounds of it, the rest of the game seems to be functioning normally. I know that the monitor was just recapped before I got the machine (It looked great while it was running).

Any Ideas? How can I tell if the monitor is bad or if it's just the board, etc?

Here is a video of it before it died completely...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqpScUh8BuM





Levichar

2 Rush/Alcatraz, Ms Pacman cocktail, Lethal Enforcers 2, Mortal Kombat 3, 60-1, Top Gun Dart.
 
It most certainly looks like a monitor chassis issue opposed to the tube. Almost seems like a vertical collapse but with perhaps another issue. You said it is completely dead now - do you have any glow in the neck? Hear any static discharging from the tube to indicate that you have high voltage?
 
No Noise or Glow

I don't see any Glow/ light at all.
I don't hear any noise from the monitor area. (only your standard fan/harddrive, etc noise)

What I did see...the plastic covering the board has some small reddish/brown burn type marks on it. May have been from before it was capped/fixed up. I lifted the plastic up a bit and it didn't look bad underneath.

On the bottom left, the marks on the plastic are over R914 and on the top right over Q906.

I took another video. The machine was on while the video was taken. Lighting was bad. In video it looks like there were burn marks on the top left of the board, but there weren't.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5HzzJQ9D2U
 
I'm gonna guess that your flyback has went out. Do you see any bulging or hairline cracks in the plastic housing?
 
Where do I look?

Not sure where to look. There is a white ring around the neck of the crt. Looks plastic to me but my husband thinks its metal. Dont see where else it would be.
 
Looks like a Neotec monitor common to this game. Most likely the chassis (the electronics portion that includes the small board attached to the neck of the tube and the larger board below) and not the tube. It can likely be easily repaired. If you're not familiar with repair, you should remove the chassis and send it to a repair place. Arcadecup (a member on these forums) does monitor repair. You just send the chassis off and he'll send it back repaired.
 
I also highly recommend Chad @ Arcadecup - He recently repaired the board out of one of my Rush the Rock's and it came back working and looking like new.
 
If you can take a picture of your actual monitor board I can tell you if it's a NT-27E.
That will run you $140 from Chad @ Arcadecup which includes flyback replacement and return shipping.
 
I'll add another recommendation for Chad @ Arcadecup - I had him repair 3 bad Neotec 27Es for me (one awhile back and the other two more recently) - looking great in my Rush the Rocks!

$140 is very reasonable for a chassis rebuild on these temperamental Neotecs.
 
Time to pull the monitor

The guy that I got my Machines from has been great with all this. He's offered to swap the monitor/board out for another that he just fixed up for me last night. Now I just have to figure out how to get it out of there. This should be fun.
 
You don't need to remove the entire monitor (which is a complete pain on that game). You can remove the chassis only. Be sure that the replacement is the EXACT same type. Neotec made the 27E and the 2701...they are NOT interchangeable. The yokes ( the copper wire wraped thing on the tube) are different and not compatible.
 
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