Setting people up for failure...

Check this out:

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/ele/1314552283.html

This guy is going a little overboard by saying there's nothing to worry about... ZAP!

I think taking a casserole out of a 450 degree oven is just as dangerous, but few people think twice about doing that. The main danger (assuming they follow his instructions) is someone dropping the TV on their foot and/or breaking the tube and getting struck with shattering glass. There is essentially zero danger of an electrical shock since he's not asking them to touch anything past the plastic housing. I suppose they could trip and fall onto the TV, but even then, I see a bigger danger of bumps, cuts, and bruises from doing that than from a significant electrical shock.
 
god! people like this make me sick. What a jackass to expect other people to do all the initial work with him making no mention of buying price. We all know IF he actually got someone to do all this, and FIND the tube he needs, he's gonna offer them no more than $20. Jeez. Just go out yourself, buy suspect tubes and take a gamble. What a shithead.
 
god! people like this make me sick. What a jackass to expect other people to do all the initial work with him making no mention of buying price. We all know IF he actually got someone to do all this, and FIND the tube he needs, he's gonna offer them no more than $20. Jeez. Just go out yourself, buy suspect tubes and take a gamble. What a shithead.

That's a strange reaction. He's not holding a gun to anyone's head. In other words, for people reading his post, compliance is purely optional.
 
That's a strange reaction. He's not holding a gun to anyone's head. In other words, for people reading his post, compliance is purely optional.

No, I hear you, he's not putting a gun to anyone's head. But he's still a lazy fuck who is banking on the hope that some idiot will do all of his dirty work, so he can kick them some chump change.
 
god! people like this make me sick. What a jackass to expect other people to do all the initial work with him making no mention of buying price. We all know IF he actually got someone to do all this, and FIND the tube he needs, he's gonna offer them no more than $20. Jeez. Just go out yourself, buy suspect tubes and take a gamble. What a shithead.

I have to agree that there is no harm in removing the back off a TV.

First of let's take a look at the individual who didn't have enough back bone to have an email to respond to:
"Be warned that you can get shocked by 20k volts if you touch the red flyback wire on the tube. Read up on proper discharge of a CRT monitor before attempting to remove protective covers on tube TVs."

Touching the "red wire" will not shock you and why the hell would you even need to touch the ANODE wire? Clearly someone doesn't understand.
Why would you need to read up on discharging a monitor? Discharging is only necessary for chassis removal. I had thought about doing something like this myself. Do you go buy every single 19" to get it home to find out it isn;t compatible with your chassis? The reality is a person wouldn't allow you to tear apart their TV and then say "nope not right".

The ad also says if you don't feel comfortable ..... great dont do it. That's simple enough. I don't see a problem with the ad and no where does the lister state $20.00. Maybe being experienced in doing this gives me a biased opinion.
 
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I have to agree that there is no harm in removing the back off a TV.

First of let's take a look at the individual who didn't have enough back bone to have an email to respond to:
"Be warned that you can get shocked by 20k volts if you touch the red flyback wire on the tube. Read up on proper discharge of a CRT monitor before attempting to remove protective covers on tube TVs."

Touching the "red wire" will not shock you and why the hell would you even need to touch the ANODE wire? Clearly someone doesn't understand.
Why would you need to read up on discharging a monitor? Discharging is only necessary for chassis removal.

The ad also says if you don't feel comfortable ..... great dont do it. That's simple enough. I don't see a problem with the ad and no where does the lister state $20.00. Maybe being experienced in doing this gives me a biased opinion.

I would have zero problems with the ad if the guy mentions what he's willing to pay for the tube and the individual's time. I've done this more than once myself, and no there's no harm in taking off the back cover, but a random joe might not feel comfortable doing the job, and will only become more uncomfortable when he actually finds out what he's goona get paid for his troubles.
 
As the ad states - if you don't feel comfortable then don't do it. As far as price goes .... I suppose actually putting a price would be better I can't disagree with you there. But then again take a qucik gander at all the TV's for sale. Some people have old 19"'s for $45-$60 where as other people have ~$25.00. And again I ask - how does a person not go butt broke buying TV's to possibly end up with a bunch of incompatible tubes? I can see the listers side also and my point is pretty hard to argue.

I just wanted to chime in about the whole "RED WIRE BAD going to kill you" mentality. I've been hit with 19.5Kv. It sucks no other way to say it. It was truly my own damn fault trying to use an HV probe. I have never EVER been shocked by touching the Anode wire. It's shielded. If people are that worried about getting shiocked then don;t ever touch an extension chord - it's shielded too ;)
 
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As the ad states - if you don't feel comfortable then don't do it. As far as price goes .... I suppose actually putting a price would be better I can't disagree with you there. But then again take a qucik gander at all the TV's for sale. Some people have old 19"'s for $45-$60 where as other people have ~$25.00. And again I ask - how does a person not go butt broke buying to TV's to realize the tubes are incompatible? I see the listers side also.

I just wanted to chime in about the whole "RED WIRE BAD going to kill you" mentality. I've been hit with 19.5Kv. It sucks no other way to say it. It was truly my own damn fault trying to use an HV probe. I have never EVER been shocked by touching the Anode wire. It's shielded. If people are that worried about getting shiocked then don;t ever touch an extension chord - it's shielded too ;)

I wasn't sure what you were talking about until I saw this ad:
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/ele/1316935902.html

Which all and all, everything said now is pointless, looks like the dude's ad was flagged or removed. I of course agree with your wisdom Deadly, and I see the lister's side. Just wish the dude would ahve been honest and said "I'm gonna give up to ____ for the tube". I was scoring 25" for no more than $35 last year on CL and I see tons of older 19's for free on CL. Especially in the PDX area. Game on, my friend.
 
This is the typical CL ad that wants you to do their work for them. It's like the ad for free firewood - only problem is that the tree is still alive and growing in my backyard; all you have to do is come get it!
 
As long as it isn't pine, that ad will actually work.

STAY AWAY FROM MY PINES!

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He could do a little research and say something like if you have one of these TVs, please contact me for purchase.

Panasonic CT9041
Panasonic 7601US
Panasonic CT9051
Panasonic WT5931RW1
Panasonic WT5964SW1
Panasonic 7901US
Panasonic CT9060
Panasonic WT5931SW
Panasonic WT5965SH
Panasonic CT1910
Panasonic CT9071
Panasonic WT5932RW1
Panasonic WT5965SW
Panasonic CT1910M
Panasonic CT909
Panasonic WT5935SW
Panasonic WT5965TH
Panasonic CT9010
Panasonic CT958
Panasonic WT5960TW
Panasonic WT5965TW
Panasonic CT9021
Panasonic CT959
Panasonic WT5961SW
Panasonic WT5971SW
Panasonic CT9031
Panasonic TT5968SW
Panasonic WT5961TW
Panasonic WT5971TW
Panasonic CT9040
Panasonic WT5930RW1
Panasonic WT5962SW
Panasonic WT5972TP
Panasonic CT9041
Panasonic WT5930SW
Panasonic WT5963SW
Panasonic WT5975TP
Panasonic CT9050
Panasonic DFLTMDL
Panasonic DT909

JVC 7601US
JVC 7690US
JVC 7790US
JVC 7890US
JVC 7901US
JVC 7990US
 
Hmm do all those have a particular tube #? I started to assemble a list as I rip apart TVs. The easiest way though is to aim for 1980s or early 90s tvs (you can tell), and just use a white led flashlight through the back vent. If the tube looks to be over an inch in diameter - you're most likely good!

The biggest catch I've found is 20" tvs that look like 19s - if the tube is an A51----- it won't bolt up to an arcade monitor frame :-(

Here's my list I started - I have a couple more entries to add - maybe I'll add a couple real quick. These are all tvs that I've ripped apart and found useable tubes in. I'm even documenting the yokes in case their compatible with anything...

http://www.junknet.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=121&Itemid=121
 
Hmm do all those have a particular tube #? I started to assemble a list as I rip apart TVs. The easiest way though is to aim for 1980s or early 90s tvs (you can tell), and just use a white led flashlight through the back vent. If the tube looks to be over an inch in diameter - you're most likely good!

The biggest catch I've found is 20" tvs that look like 19s - if the tube is an A51----- it won't bolt up to an arcade monitor frame :-(

Here's my list I started - I have a couple more entries to add - maybe I'll add a couple real quick. These are all tvs that I've ripped apart and found useable tubes in. I'm even documenting the yokes in case their compatible with anything...

http://www.junknet.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=121&Itemid=121

Those all have the same tube as a G07 (19VJTP22). While looking for compatible tubes I compiled that list of TVs that used the same tube.
 
I think taking a casserole out of a 450 degree oven is just as dangerous, but few people think twice about doing that. The main danger (assuming they follow his instructions) is someone dropping the TV on their foot and/or breaking the tube and getting struck with shattering glass. There is essentially zero danger of an electrical shock since he's not asking them to touch anything past the plastic housing. I suppose they could trip and fall onto the TV, but even then, I see a bigger danger of bumps, cuts, and bruises from doing that than from a significant electrical shock.

You Sir are giving people way too much credit. The TV maybe old but he never told them to turn it off and unplug it before removing the back. :D
 
You Sir are giving people way too much credit. The TV maybe old but he never told them to turn it off and unplug it before removing the back. :D

Luckily most people are afraid to open their TVs and won't attempt such as asinine request. Those big Warning stickers about high-voltage and do not open work great. That is why we have warnings everywhere now to keep the people safe. ;)
 
Luckily most people are afraid to open their TVs and won't attempt such as asinine request. Those big Warning stickers about high-voltage and do not open work great. That is why we have warnings everywhere now to keep the people safe. ;)

Those warnings are great but if the idiots can't read they do no good. :eek:
 
I have to agree that there is no harm in removing the back off a TV.

First of let's take a look at the individual who didn't have enough back bone to have an email to respond to:
"Be warned that you can get shocked by 20k volts if you touch the red flyback wire on the tube. Read up on proper discharge of a CRT monitor before attempting to remove protective covers on tube TVs."

Touching the "red wire" will not shock you and why the hell would you even need to touch the ANODE wire? Clearly someone doesn't understand.
Why would you need to read up on discharging a monitor? Discharging is only necessary for chassis removal. I had thought about doing something like this myself. Do you go buy every single 19" to get it home to find out it isn;t compatible with your chassis? The reality is a person wouldn't allow you to tear apart their TV and then say "nope not right".

The ad also says if you don't feel comfortable ..... great dont do it. That's simple enough. I don't see a problem with the ad and no where does the lister state $20.00. Maybe being experienced in doing this gives me a biased opinion.

Confidence in technical knowledge is one thing, but correct me if I'm wrong, an automotive coil wire is also technically sheilded in much the same way, but I'll tell you after personal experiance of my arm being thrown into the hood of a truck from a discharge wasn't pleasent. The key is if you are also touching the frame ground when you touch the 'red wire'. The way I see it, if I was 'doing this guy a favor' and taking my tv apart to make a sale and didn't know the potential suck and got a shock, I'd be pissed haha.
 
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