Selling on Klov vs Selling on Ebay

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Let me preface this by saying after 11 Years I will be severely limiting my Ebay sales starting today - I will be using Ebay to advertise and drive buyers to alternatives for purchasing my goods.

I realize complaints about Ebay have been rampant on here, but there are some pretty specific changes that are coming that are driving me away. It's a shame Google cant get their auction stuff going because Ebay would get hurt pretty quickly to a competitor, even if that competitor just copied Ebay from 10 years ago and RE-Implemented it.

Here in no particular order are the reasons why I am abandoning Ebay:

- No ability to give negative feedback to abusive buyers. I realize retaliatory feedback was a problem, but I think I should be able to warn sellers when some tool buys an item off of me, leaves me a neg and opens a claim without even emailing me once to resolve the issue.
- New complaint system allows buyers to report you as "not responding" to complaints, without ANY verification as to the truth of their claims.
- New complaint system is used against you as a powerseller. If someone opens a complaint, WHETHER VALID OR NOT, you are dinged.
- New powersellers program treats people who sell 1000 $1 items better than sellers who sell 10 $1000 items, even though the latter pays a significantly larger amount in fees. (Powersellers based mostly on # of items, not net sales)
- Fees average 10%-30% now on items under $100 (including listing fees).
- Ebay buyers have gone from well-informed smart shoppers looking for a bargain, to uninformed complainers who don't read auctions then file claims for getting EXACTLY what was advertised and they agreed to buy.

So all of my lower ticket items will ONLY be offered for sale here on KLOV (and possibly a new Yahoo Shopping site).

- Feedback system here allows me to research a buyer before I agree to sell to them. It also allows ACCURATE information, just not positives.
- People here are generally well informed and know when something says "untested" or "parts only" that means it MAY NOT WORK!
- "AS-IS" and "NO REFUNDS" actually means something here. KLOV'rs that pay $2 for a Pacman board that is AS-IS and it doesn't work, dont go complaining and requesting a refund.
- No Fees other than Paypal if I use it.


So there's my $.02 on why KLOV is far superior for selling my surplus arcade items than Ebay. Look for another one of my sales posts later this week to get rid of all the stuff I had for sale on Ebay that I took down. No fees and better buyers means lower prices from me.

Rick
 
I list items on eBay as "List until sold" and then instruct the buyers to pay cash outside of eBay.

I can't sell games here on KLOV. I have had 2 games (KI2 and Sega Sky Target) listed on KLOV for over a year, not even a bite. I listed them on eBay and both sold in a few weeks.

I don't like selling them via eBay because of the high seller fees, but I like to use them as an advertising medium.
 
I don't blame you.
I think ebay stuff will come full circle at some point though.

Hey I heard your the guy to talk to about hyper pin setup stuff! I have a gottlieb wb cab in good shape I wanna mess with ehehe
 
- Fees average 10%-30% now on items under $100 (including listing fees).

Jesus, didn't the last fee rework take it up to about 10% max and that caused enough of a commotion as it was? 30% is completely insane, prices are going to go above retail if the fees are that high.
 
I quit selling on eBay a long time ago, but I will still buy stuff if I can pick it up and pay cash. Works well on the large stuff like arcade games and pinball machines.

For the smaller stuff like console or PC games I've been doing well on Game Gavel. I have to watch and wait a bit, since the stuff I'm looking for is on the rarer side. But the price I pay for items and the lack of having to use Paypal makes up for the wait.

I've got some older stuff to sell in the near future, so I'll be able to give an opinion on the selling end of GG soon.

I buy a lot of arcade parts off of the for sale board here on KLOV.

-JM
 
I dont know how people on ebay make it anymore. I started a gaming/entertainment liquidation biz in college and did almost 80% of my sales on ebay from 2002-2007. Did over 11000 transactions on there and stopped selling in early 09 because of the constant fee increases and shipping and handling regulations. Paypal rates dont help either. Its gotten ridiculous. Impossible to make any sort of profit.
 
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