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If you zoom in that wire in the very front of the one circled is no longer attached due to that black area crumbling to piecesYour picture is blurry, and I can't see the damage that you are talking about. The coil does not look to be burnt up. Have you tried cleaning your contacts or filing them down a little bit?
the coil seems fine as it was trying to atleast work, but with that piece being broken it couldnt, i guess lock on, not sure the right term, when i moved that wire the black part broke and was crunchy, they said it worked for a month when they got it but then stopped and this is the reasonIt does look pretty toasty.
If you haven't gotten to know Steve Young at Pinball Resource... good time to start! He likely has some Midway relay units, and can custom wind that funky 5000 winding coil.
Sea Devil is a cool game and totally worth the trouble.
the coil seems fine as it was trying to atleast work, but with that piece being broken it couldnt, i guess lock on, not sure the right term, when i moved that wire the black part broke and was crunchy, they said it worked for a month when they got it but then stopped and this is the reason
i found a copy online and i am pretty surre thats what cause this one to burn up, it needs that cap below replaced as well not sure if thats the reason it did that, the owner said the game was found in a warehouse and they brought it to their drive-in and it worked for about a month before it went crazy and stopped workingThose relays do get a workout. Once you get that relay replaced you're going to want to make sure it's not "machine gunning", or you'll burn up the new one quickly.
If you don't already have them, get a manual and schematics from Steve Young.
i found a copy online and i am pretty surre thats what cause this one to burn up, it needs that cap below replaced as well not sure if thats the reason it did that, the owner said the game was found in a warehouse and they brought it to their drive-in and it worked for about a month before it went crazy and stopped working
my issue is, i would be buying someething for something i will probably only work on once and then i would be stuck with itGood luck with the online version... I find them really tough to work with for stuff like this... and I've been doing it a while. If you're new to games like this, I think you'll find it's well worth the $ to buy a decent paper copy. Pinball Resource is good about providing highly legible schematics in the original format... usually a huge fold-out document.
Regardless, you're going to want to figure out what makes that relay go, and get to the root of the issue. Good luck!
my issue is, i would be buying someething for something i will probably only work on once and then i would be stuck with it
That I don't know, I mostly need the bottom black piece as it has crumbled into dust, I really don't want to remove it without a replacement but I may just have to remove it and see about remaking it in 3D and see about 3D printing itIt took 250 in the oven to break the glue loose. The coil does not look any worse for the wear. The bad news is that the coil is glued then riveted for the 24V coil.
My Midway one is screwed on. The solder needs to be removed and then slid over the tabs. Is this how the Sea Devil is?
i have to be very careful as this isnt mine but a customers and i have to be careful about removing anything that i cant find a replacement forI made the observations on my Midway Bullseye without removing anything. You can look at your relay and tell if it has removal screws. That would allow you to remove it and leave the solenoid attached.