yea it allows you to change the volume then save the settings.
I'll resend you a set of eproms. Im just trying other things right now to see if there is a way to fix the rom check too
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yea it allows you to change the volume then save the settings.
I'll resend you a set of eproms. Im just trying other things right now to see if there is a way to fix the rom check too
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cadillacman
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was this for the single or dual layer boards?? Id love fo rmy pos to actually save settings.
this was for the single layer hack roms.
I havent sold any dual layer hack roms, only original ones.
mschwartz01
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Awesome man - Thank you!
aaaaaaaaaaaghhhhhhhhhhh....
So I went to burn a new set of roms for this with the code that I just had working and it isnt working.,.. so I put the set it that was working and they worked fine! so then I took the set that worked fine and dumped them and then reburned a new set, the new set doesnt work!!
BUT
I think I found out the difference.. The chips im using are 27c4001-10F1s, both the ones that work and the new ones. but the difference is the ones that work are old original eproms I pulled from the boardset and reimaged to the duo game. They are fatter and have different shaped windows.. So im wondering if its the speed of the chips that causing it? I reburned an old set with the code that has the checksum fix and they work as well, so so far the only ones that work are the ones that have old eproms that I recycled . The brand new eproms dont work even though they are the exact speed -10F1, something about them is different...
and when I say they dont work I mean, they give you the setting default eeprom value message, the game still plays fine with them.
So I went to burn a new set of roms for this with the code that I just had working and it isnt working.,.. so I put the set it that was working and they worked fine! so then I took the set that worked fine and dumped them and then reburned a new set, the new set doesnt work!!
BUT
I think I found out the difference.. The chips im using are 27c4001-10F1s, both the ones that work and the new ones. but the difference is the ones that work are old original eproms I pulled from the boardset and reimaged to the duo game. They are fatter and have different shaped windows.. So im wondering if its the speed of the chips that causing it? I reburned an old set with the code that has the checksum fix and they work as well, so so far the only ones that work are the ones that have old eproms that I recycled . The brand new eproms dont work even though they are the exact speed -10F1, something about them is different...
and when I say they dont work I mean, they give you the setting default eeprom value message, the game still plays fine with them.
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K3V
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Maybe we could send you our old original chips to re-image?
Ok I have erased and reburned feels like a hundred different EPROMs.
The only ones that do not give you the setting default eeprom settings message are ones that have the batch number B88AF so far
All of my original EPROMs from cojag boards have these.
So if your EPROMs are 27c4001-10F1 with batch number B88AF then you can send them to me to be reprogrammed
The only ones that do not give you the setting default eeprom settings message are ones that have the batch number B88AF so far
All of my original EPROMs from cojag boards have these.
So if your EPROMs are 27c4001-10F1 with batch number B88AF then you can send them to me to be reprogrammed
Holy hell....
Well today I decided to see if its maybe one of the four EPROMs that's causing the issue , I took a brand new set and and old set and replaced the old set one at a time and never got the damn message. Working like a champ with brand new EPROMs , so then I thought maybe it is the harddrive, so I made a brand new harddrive and 4 brand new EPROMs booted it up and it still works fine, BUT the free play settings where still there even though I used all new parts!!? So where are the settings stored? Maybe the PIC chip next to the EPROMs is the culprit? I tried 4 different boards today and around 40 different EPROMs and I can't get that "setting default EEPROM settings" message anymore...
Maybe I somehow reprogrammed something on the board itself? By swapping chips back and forth?
My other thought is maybe its the volume adjust.. Maybe you have to adjust the free play setting. Start the game, then go back and adjust the volume. ?
At this point I have no idea what to try since I can't get the problem to happen on any of my boards now with any combinations of new and old EPROMs or harddrives.
Well today I decided to see if its maybe one of the four EPROMs that's causing the issue , I took a brand new set and and old set and replaced the old set one at a time and never got the damn message. Working like a champ with brand new EPROMs , so then I thought maybe it is the harddrive, so I made a brand new harddrive and 4 brand new EPROMs booted it up and it still works fine, BUT the free play settings where still there even though I used all new parts!!? So where are the settings stored? Maybe the PIC chip next to the EPROMs is the culprit? I tried 4 different boards today and around 40 different EPROMs and I can't get that "setting default EEPROM settings" message anymore...
Maybe I somehow reprogrammed something on the board itself? By swapping chips back and forth?
My other thought is maybe its the volume adjust.. Maybe you have to adjust the free play setting. Start the game, then go back and adjust the volume. ?
At this point I have no idea what to try since I can't get the problem to happen on any of my boards now with any combinations of new and old EPROMs or harddrives.
mschwartz01
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I sent you my old EPROMS today, so I'll be able to see if the same thing happens for you on my board too.
K3V
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So I resolved this issue on my boardset. Turned out either my EEPROM was bad (the one that saves all the game settings) or the hack is very picky about the type of EEPROM used.
The one that I had in originally that DID NOT work was labeled as follows:
The one that DOES work is this one:
Anyone know a good source for the second chip? I need one to get my other boardset up and going 100%
The one that I had in originally that DID NOT work was labeled as follows:
The one that DOES work is this one:
Anyone know a good source for the second chip? I need one to get my other boardset up and going 100%
Can't see the first pic, but here's an AT28C16A
http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/st...Id=10001&ddkey=http:StoreCatalogDrillDownView
K3V
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Strange, uploaded both pics from my phone so I'm not sure why one looks terrible and the other looks ok. Here's the text from both chips:
First (doesn't work):
AT28C16
15PC
9702
Second (works):
AT28C16
15PC
9539
Thanks for the link
First (doesn't work):
AT28C16
15PC
9702
Second (works):
AT28C16
15PC
9539
Thanks for the link
Kevin
The only difference in those two chips is the date code (week 2 1997 vs week 39, 1995)
I'd guess the first chip is toast... try a new one
cheers
/Tim
The only difference in those two chips is the date code (week 2 1997 vs week 39, 1995)
I'd guess the first chip is toast... try a new one
cheers
/Tim
Strange, uploaded both pics from my phone so I'm not sure why one looks terrible and the other looks ok. Here's the text from both chips:
First (doesn't work):
AT28C16
15PC
9702
Second (works):
AT28C16
15PC
9539
Thanks for the link
K3V
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See you learn something new every day Ordering now.
What's strange is the chip worked fine with the original Maximum Force EPROMS but when I switched to the Duo upgrade it stopped working.
Ordering now.What's strange is the chip worked fine with the original Maximum Force EPROMS but when I switched to the Duo upgrade it stopped working.
K3V
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It did yeah. But when I took that EEPROM and moved it to the other boardset it didn't work there.
Might just have been its time to go !
Tighe
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I told you where to get them. ;p
K3V
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Yep I got 'em thanks all
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cadillacman
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Think this would work with mine top?
Mine has the arcade services kit in it with new security chip.
Mine has the arcade services kit in it with new security chip.
