Richie Knucklez launches fundraiser to rescue his games from Banning.

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15k is the shipping cost of all his games to be shipping from Banning to NJ. He said he has 100 games to ship right ? Thats actually a good price. Or he will use the 15k to rent 2 18 wheelers and go pick them up himself ? Again, not a bad price considering. I tried to rent 1 small box truck to go 400 miles and back, and it was going to be about $600 total (this is with mileage charges and gas calculated approx). Including me wasting about 14hrs of my life driving. So I decided to just get them shipped from Beltmann for $694. To me, thats a better deal while I kick back and drink a few root beer floats.

BTW - At least 8 of those DK's are Arcade 1ups. Why save those ? lol I thought this guy was above Arcade 1ups ? Those are used for the circle jerk off, I mean Kong Off ? I now have less respect for the Kong off. Hopefully I am just wrong and jumping to the wrong conclusions.
Kong Klash is where its at!
 
What happened in this thread?

Someone went in and modified my post about selling 11 Donkey Kongs to remove my reference to how much money to sell each DK for.

Then someone deleted at least 2 other posts. One where someone commented about the price of a mint DK in the Midwest, and one where I commented about the average DK price in my area.

Why would mention of money be secretly censored in this thread?
 
Sounds good, sounds logical, sounds easy on paper. But let's take a moment to dissect this plan.

Given the information known. They are his games - not a few, but lots. The original intent was a business one. The intent is still a business one.
Most banking institutions are more than willing to loan you money, when you really don't need it. Meaning, you have a fair amount of assets, and things they deem valuable ( Property ) The hospitality and entertainment industry got hit super hard the past 2 years. The cash flow is probably not at the level the bank wants to secure a loan. (If the loan went to default they would just liquidate them at dump scrap prices, and chase him for years for the balance )

You already own the equipment to get a business up and going. Selling the assists off, is like a restaurant owner selling their deep fryers to pay for the floor tiles. Plus as all you game buying people know, it is EXTREMELY rare you ever buy back a game in the same or comparable condition as you sold it, let alone at the same price point, and in the time frame needed. So, to sell a cabinet actually weakens the long term business plan. If you were planning to open a business, would you honestly sell off your inventory just for building renovations? Would a car mechanic sell off his tools (which would easy be $25 000 ) just to have to buy them over again at a higher rate?

I am not saying what is happening is right or wrong. Not for me to decide, I don't pay his bills, and have no intention to buy him out. But other than it is under the gofundme umbrella, what makes this any different than say a kickstarter, or any other crowd sourcing avenue? People may say "just throwing money away with nothing in return" Well, there is the documentary, to be included in the story has some personal value for some. There will be a master list of anyone who donated. (Remember these are online transactions - everything is recorded ) So the beneficiary could go back and offer free 1 year passes to any and all who helped a long the way. (Wayyy cheaper than any bank loan )

I do see all sides of this, but the biggest thing is, It is easy for people to sit back and judge. Say what they would do if it was their game(s). Its easy when you only have 15 games or less, and you do not treat them as revenue generating machines. Tie up your life, your house, all you ever known into the venture, then get back to me with some honest soul searching answers. Slip those shoes on, take a little walk... let me know how it feels.
Not to beat a dead horse here, and it would make me happy to help a generous soul who merited assiatance, but couldn't he sell less than 5-10% of his pile to fund getting the rest of his games back (and wouldn't this be THE venue to advertise that concept?)
A plane ticket and a couch to surf for a week while you sold off a few cabinets could solve the whole problem and still leave you with an admirable lineup of games for a real arcade venue.

Sorry if something smells fishy here, but this gofundme ploy has the scent of a 5 day old ramcontrols casserole.

Shit, I would paypal the guy $2k if he shipped me a legit DK cabinet.
Seriously.
 
What happened in this thread?

Someone went in and modified my post about selling 11 Donkey Kongs to remove my reference to how much money to sell each DK for.

Then someone deleted at least 2 other posts. One where someone commented about the price of a mint DK in the Midwest, and one where I commented about the average DK price in my area.

Why would mention of money be secretly censored in this thread?
You made two similar posts which are both still up, i think you got confused and didn't see your other post. they're nearly identical, one says 1350 the other doesn't.
 
I would've assumed his CAG followers would just instantly rise to this occasion to save one of their brethren. they're a pretty disgusting collective and their exploits have contributed to me hating the collecting scene, my job, and video games in general. which is strong given I was literally born into the coin-op industry. I don't have any personal issues with Richie, but the awful people he's enabled over the years (some of you may know who) and their exploits were a bit too much for my liking.

also for those wondering what the deal is with his stage name, he had a band called Knuckle Sandwich and it was rooted in him being in a fight with like 10 guys at once. he thus handed out knuckle sandwiches and was rebranded Richie Knucklez (I believe he admitted he didn't win this battle, but took some people down with him). I could've sworn that was explained in The King of Arcades.
 
Not to beat a dead horse here, and it would make me happy to help a generous soul who merited assiatance, but couldn't he sell less than 5-10% of his pile to fund getting the rest of his games back (and wouldn't this be THE venue to advertise that concept?)
A plane ticket and a couch to surf for a week while you sold off a few cabinets could solve the whole problem and still leave you with an admirable lineup of games for a real arcade venue.

Sorry if something smells fishy here, but this gofundme ploy has the scent of a 5 day old ramcontrols casserole.

Shit, I would paypal the guy $2k if he shipped me a legit DK cabinet.
Seriously.
Keep in mind, if you sell cabinets, the shipping price point does not go down. It actually increases! Right now, 15k for 100 cabinets is $150 per game to move from one coast to the other. When was the last time you seen that value? Some people charge that just to go an hour away! So then from a business standpoint, you sell off games, but the remaining games increase in value because of increased transport costs, replacement and insured value increases too. The higher transit cost makes the cabinet price increased. Right now if only 100 people at $150 per gave saves the Games.

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Preaching to the choir here about shipping costs... (although something went awry with your post.)

From a circulation standpoint, there are functionally zero original arcade cabinets out here.
I was told (by a rather bitter sounding individual) that whatever real machines were still here left after an auction maybe 5 years ago- and were shipped to the mainland en masse.
The few remaining ones extant are all in jealously guarded hoards from what I can tell (maybe 100 total? probably fewer.)

Given the population within driving distance of LA however (not to metion all the other like-mided obsessed withing a days drive) anybody with any motivation/business savvy/brain at all could sell a few cabinets in short order.

I am one given to allowing benefit of doubt to most (at my own expense generally) and personal experiences of others aside, the details of this whole fiasco do not play out well.
The number of paths preceding the pathetic journey down the gofundme trail are innumerable.

He didn't post anything here because he knew what the rather obvious result would be.
Went fishing in a shallower pool is all.

The longer this pathetic thread continues the more incensed by it all I become.
 
Just in case you need more good fodder for the this thread....

"Since then, there have been four more Kong Offs; Kong Off 5 took place at ReplayFX in Pittsburgh this past July. It was the most streamed Kong Off in the history of the event, and it's likely that next year's Kong Off 6 will bring the competition full circle—right back to Richie Knucklez Arcade Games, where it all started. And now, he has financial support; the Philadelphia 76ers will be sponsoring all of his future events."

 
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Here is what I would do: fly to Banning, rent a truck, get a storage unit(s), move games into storage units. Stay in Banning for a few days. Sell the games you really don't need in CA. Rent a one only moving truck and drive the first load of games back. Within the next few months, make a few trips to CA and pick up the remaining games.
You're missing the point where he wants the community to pay for all this without having to sacrifice anything in return. You'd think dude was a millennial pulling this crap but he's old enough to know but smart enough to know that people aren't smart enough to not do it for him.

(I been in a situation like this where my whole collection was in jeopardy as many people do fall on hard times)

I did what I had to do. Sold a title I really didn't want to sell but it floated me by to save the rest and I didn't have to burden anyone for MY problems. Some people just have that entitlement and it doesn't seem generational anymore as this isn't the 1st or last boomer to pull this.

In the end the enablers are also to blame. Business or not we've all had to make some tough choices. He could definitely sell 1 Captains Chair, a B title and a Dk or 2, save his business and easily find two DKs to Kong Off some more later. Not hard.
 
Since this thread is a complete shitshow, and at least two sets of people have threatened to beat each other up or get beat up or have Richie beat them up, it reminded me of this gem from Pinside a few years back.

If you're not into pinballs you probably missed it, but there was a guy who started taking preorders on a Predator pinball machine. This asshole got like 200 grand, AT LEAST out of people as preorder money and got to the point where he was begging people for the next installment, etc. Eventually they found out he never even had the license to make the machine, and had made a prototype and a few of the parts but wasn't anywhere near making the machine. He pocketed all the money.

I'll interrupt here to say i'm not talking about Richie, i've never heard of Richie taking anybody for money, i'm just saying the fighting reminded me of it.

Well anyways, lawsuits are flying, lawyers are involved, lots of tough guys are saying they're going to kick the Predator guy's ass when they see him, etc, they're going to show up at his door and demand their money... this guy had taken HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS from HUNDREDS of people.

Eventually, some guy posts a photo that he took of the guy, at an auction, walking away from him. After all that talk, this guy, who wasn't even a big dude or anything, went to an auction and was walking around all day ,bidding on shit, talking to his friends, loading games, etc. and the only thing anybody did was take a picture of his back, LOL!

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Same thing happened to me at CAX lol no one had anything not nice to say to me in person. Funny how that works
 
Oh, the aged testosterone of it all...
Adulting lesson to be learned here- like the guy or not.

Make a bad (business?) decision with regard to your stuff...?
Even if you've been screwed (I have been numerous times) you could just man up and deal and/or take some personal responsibility.

Option 1:
Just outright sell SOME of your stuff and salvage your business. Rebuild from a functional position some time down the road.

Option 2:
Leverage your inventory for a loan to be able to pull the thing off and maybe keep all the stuff.

Option 3:
Pawn some portion of your stuff to other enthusiasts to raise the funds you need and hope you get your act together in time to buy the stuff back.

And on, and on, and on...
Or-

Option 4:
Avoid Options 1, 2, 3, et. al. until you are left with nothing else but hoping a whole bunch of other people will bail you out, with no responsibility assumed.

Don't get me wrong, I am happy when worthy people succeed, but if he is worthy of just giving money to, why doesn't somebody ACTUALLY help the guy in making a respsonsible choice and taking care of his own stuff/life here?
Just GIVING people $$ is worthless-
To everyone involved.

Merely ASKING for a handout without offering something of value is shameful and unproductive on a long term basis.
I agree entirely. This guy is really a clown. I also think there is an aspect to this entire debacle no one is mentioning. Richie shut down his arcade back when he got divorced and I speculate he "donated" these games to defraud his baby-momma from her share of divorce proceedings. Then he teamed up with Billy Hot Sauce and Creepy Walter to run the TG scam. I haven't followed the drama at all and these are only my impressions and may be entirely wrong. I don't really care, but these are the kind of guys that make coin-op people look like over-grown children and/or pedo-creeps.

Let's find out who owns the property and buy the games out from under him.
 
Just in case you need more good fodder for the this thread....

"Since then, there have been four more Kong Offs; Kong Off 5 took place at ReplayFX in Pittsburgh this past July. It was the most streamed Kong Off in the history of the event, and it's likely that next year's Kong Off 6 will bring the competition full circle—right back to Richie Knucklez Arcade Games, where it all started. And now, he has financial support; the Philadelphia 76ers will be sponsoring all of his future events."

So that was in 2016. Here is his arcade FB page https://www.facebook.com/Richie.Knucklez.Arcade.Games, . If you check that and his other socials, the website goes to a dead link, and Twitter/Instagram haven't been active since 2017. Im guessing that's when he shipped his games to Banning. Where does he now say he wants to operate these games to make money? All he says is that he wants them back and that he hasn't been able to do a Kong Off. I see nowhere a plan or any hint of him opening an arcade again
 
So that was in 2016. Here is his arcade FB page https://www.facebook.com/Richie.Knucklez.Arcade.Games, . If you check that and his other socials, the website goes to a dead link, and Twitter/Instagram haven't been active since 2017. Im guessing that's when he shipped his games to Banning. Where does he now say he wants to operate these games to make money? All he says is that he wants them back and that he hasn't been able to do a Kong Off. I see nowhere a plan or any hint of him opening an arcade again
It seems you are sticking up for him. Think about the kind of people he's in bed with. Weeks was the ultimate scammer. He convinced a ton of old arcade guys to donate their games to the museum before they keeled over and then he took the money for himself. Now he walks away from the games Richie "hid" from his divorce proceedings and hangs out another "friend". Face it, these guys are just scamming scumbags. Don't stick up for any of them.
 
It seems you are sticking up for him. Think about the kind of people he's in bed with. Weeks was the ultimate scammer. He convinced a ton of old arcade guys to donate their games to the museum before they keeled over and then he took the money for himself. Now he walks away from the games Richie "hid" from his divorce proceedings and hangs out another "friend". Face it, these guys are just scamming scumbags. Don't stick up for any of them.
I don't think I am at all. Some people here said that we should consider his games as money making devices like you would restaurant equipment, and I'm pushing back on that contention. If you look at the rest of my posts I'm in no way defending this clown, and I've been very outspoken about my problems with the Museum and Weeks
 
Mental note: Don't post about my gofundme page about my Faberge Egg collection stuck in Ukraine.....
Well are you planning on opening a Faberge Egg museum with them? If so then it's totally okay and actually encouraged!
 
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