Revenge from Mars (Shop/Repair pics)

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I started the teardown of my new RFM tonight, thought I'd share some pictures. I also posted a crapload of them on my Flickr account. Could come in handy for someone else doing a shop job in the future :)

Just waiting on some parts, before I can put it back together again. Need to do alot of cleaning as well...

Here is the full set of teardown shots:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomdotcom88/sets/72157625893558970/
 

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What is that you are using to raise the playfield when working on it?
Looks neat.
 
It amazes me just how much stuff is in a pinball machine. You never realize it until you need to tear one apart, LOL.

Looks like you're well on your way to a very nice machine there!

I love my RFM, and luckily found a HUO example, so I have not yet had to go the complete teardown route.

Have fun with it, the engineering in Pinball 2000 is absolutely fantastic.


Edit: I am REALLY interested in knowing what chip is in your motherboard. Looks like a 586 from the pic, but I did not think these motherboards could run with that. Hmmmm. Here's what is in mine:

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Chris
 
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I could only wish my RFM was HUO. It is beat to death, then again I bought it from the local distributor as a consignment machine that died on the showroom floor. Thank you cheap power supplies for getting me a deal. I need to do this myself but haven't had a chance yet, any pointers on what to look out for?
 
One thing you may want to consider (if you have not already) is getting the protector for the Stroke of Luck hole. Protects is really nicely and does not interefere with the game play at all:

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Just an idea.

Chris
 
Pinball 2000 motherboards used a Cyrix Media GX CPU. Looks like that's exactly what's in there. There are some very specific features of this CPU that prevent the use of any other CPU. This is also why it was difficult to emulate the system (Nucore). If it was just a vanilla 486 emulation of any kind wouldn't necessarily be necessary.

http://www.pctechguide.com/24Cyrix_MediaGX.htm
 
It is supposed to be a 486 or it shouldn't boot. Can we get some more info on what you got?

Was this to me? So the motherboard is a 486, does it matter what CPU is in it? I mean, it says right on it that it has to be a GXm chip, but does it really matter what speed? I have a GXm chip, but it's a 266 MHz.

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Looks like his is a 586 MHz

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Just found it interesting is all, not disputing it would work :)
 
does it matter what CPU is in it? I mean, it says right on it that it has to be a GXm chip, but does it really matter what speed? I have a GXm chip, but it's a 266 MHz.

Ahh... I was talking about the original picture you posted. Didn't notice Tom's picture with the 586.

IIRC, it just has to be a Cyrix Media GX CPU. I haven't seen one with a 586 version but it obviously works :)

The architecture of the CPU is more important than the clock speed.
 
The thing that says "586" in that pic is not the CPU. That's just a sticker on top of the Cx5520 chipset. The MediaGX processor is based on 586 architecture.
 
I got a SOL hole protector on the way from a guy in Calgary :) Also got some plastics protectors, bunch of switches, rubbers, pop bumper skirts, post rubbers, etc...Going to be a couple weeks by the time all the parts show up. This machine is supposedly home use only, the original owner was in Oregon, then a guy in Kamloops picked it up. He NEVER opened it up though, didn't even know it had a diagnostics mode or anything haha. He was totally clueless...

One thing you may want to consider (if you have not already) is getting the protector for the Stroke of Luck hole. Protects is really nicely and does not interefere with the game play at all:

138654348_3de84a521d.jpg


Just an idea.

Chris
 
I got a SOL hole protector on the way from a guy in Calgary :) Also got some plastics protectors, bunch of switches, rubbers, pop bumper skirts, post rubbers, etc...Going to be a couple weeks by the time all the parts show up. This machine is supposedly home use only, the original owner was in Oregon, then a guy in Kamloops picked it up. He NEVER opened it up though, didn't even know it had a diagnostics mode or anything haha. He was totally clueless...

Sounds like you have everything well under control :)

HUO does not always mean good condition. Many people fail to realize that. I bet this will look great when it's done, but if you have a game for 9 years and never clean it, well then it will look like ass, LOL.

While mine is HUO (and I can prove it if anyone needed to know), there are a couple issues that could make people think otherwise. My siderails have many chips on them, and there's a small flaw in the RFM side art, but I do have NOS siderails for the game. HUO is not the end-all be-all of pinball like some people think. I look forward to following your progress on this :)

Chris
 
Ya that's why I didn't really mention HUO before. I don't care either way to be honest, condition is king IMO, HUO or not :)

It shouldn't take me long at all once I get the parts in. Gotta replace the pop bumper skirts, bunch of rubbers, bulbs, plastics, etc. Whack of cleaning, slap it back together and then play the shit out of it ;)

My son and his buddies are pretty pumped to try it, should be a great game for that age group. He's 11....
 
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