By the way, I came across a guy in Santa Cruz who has a Centipede and a Tiger-Heli for sale. I saw them briefly and they were pretty rough. Someone can get them for about $100 each if he hasn't already sold them. I didn't stay long enough to see them work but the guy said the Centipede has roller ball issues (which makes sense considering how dirty it was) and the Tiger-Heli has display issues. Both had black painted sides. I decided to pass but if anyone is interested, PM me and I can give you the guys contact info.