I'd like to see a show of hands.

Keep RAM Controls running/shipping or pull the plug on it and mothball everything? Not pass it to someone else, just KILL it off and walk away! With the number of orders that come through every single day, I cannot imagine that any majority of you would want me to go away.

I've pushed hard to distance myself from the crap in 2007, yet it lingers with me and 90% of it wasn't even my doing in the first place! Thank you Darin! Thank you Jeff! You insist on bringing it up over and over and over again. Why not bring up ANY of the GOOD I've done in the last THREE years? Yes, I'm slow to ship - especially with those damn yokes. That horse has been beaten to death and then some. Do we STILL need to beat that horse?

Seriously? Haters, man. Nothing but haters!

Dave
 
I've always been pro Daviea. I've made no secret of it. If there's anything i ever learned about business is you simply cannot please everyone. You've shown me kindness Dave and it's something I'll never forget. Until you screw me I'll always be a supporter. Being a family man I can understand how things fall through the cracks or items get delayed. You've admitted your mistakes and apologized publicly. I can;t see what else people would want?

On a side note I need to be the first one with a cockpit so I can write a full review.
Sucking up comes with a price tag don;t ya know heh heh.
 
I was just typing up a long post offering some support.....and decide to just make it a short post.

May the force be with you!
 
Keep it going, I say

As you know Dave, we had some shipping issues, and I said some negative things. But good communication and a prompt delivery fixed all of that.

I should of just spoken to you earlier, and voiced my concerns to you directly.

People, Dave wants to help the industry, so if you are waiting for goods, get onto it directly with him.

I now have seen first hand, the forum is not a place for these comments.

I now realize Dave is a good man, and puts up with a lot of crap. Once your gear arrives, you will agree also.

I say leave the guy alone and ask him directly if his dealings effect you, otherwise let him get back to delivering products and services.
 
Dave, you've had some serious execution issues. I'm sure you wouldn't disagree with that. If you resolve that with the hiring of the extra people and take care of whichever customers are still waiting then you've got my support. Frankly I don't know how part timers like you or Rich or whoever else provides products for this hobby do it if you've got a family too. I rarely work more than 40-45 hours in a week and I still crave time to work on things. That's why this hobby will never be funded by fixing and flipping games in my case. I just don't have the time to sacrifice. So if you're able to find time to gradually put repro products out there, even if it's not as fast as people would like then you've got my support.

Of course what I have to say has to be taken with a grain of salt because the only stuff I've gotten from Dave has been some freebie cone buttons. However, I'm sure at some point I'll want to buy stuff from him and I hope he's around at that point!
 
Dave, don't let internet forum badmouthing and negativity stop you from doing anything. I have to admit this total Star Wars reproduction seems impossible on any sort of reasonable budget or time frame. However, it would be pretty amazing if it works out. If I were you, I would hold off on pre-orders and just keep plugging away until you have something ready to ship. I for one am pulling for you and this and all your projects.

DISCLAIMER- I have ordered parts from RAM and they arrived in a timely fashion.
 
Thanks guys. I really don't think I'm the horrible person a few guys would like to think I am. I've got a lot on my plate over here and arcade games come dead last when compared to work and family. Sure, I've had my problems and I've discussed it, answered to it, apologized for it and even made up for it. At least, so I thought.

Some of you seem to hate me, plain and simple. I get that. Why you have to spew it every chance you get I really don't understand. And I know that you do. Emails, phonecalls - it all comes back to me. Too funny.

Darin, even though you constantly badmouth me whenever you can, I still refer people to you constantly. I still keep the link to your site on my main index page. Love is one-way in this case, I guess. Dude, I just want the hate to stop.

Can't we all just get along? LOL

Watch for my upcoming releases, everyone. Enjoy!!

Dave
 
Just to be clear... I've never once said you were a "terrible person". I have said you were full of shit and I maintain that opinion.

That is all.
 
I hoped my post would come across as a balanced explanation for the lack of links we've discussed in the past. It's brought up to me every so often by others. For the record I did attempt to acknowledge the many recent parts you've made and point out that delays are often circumstantial.

I would never suggest pulling the plug on anything. Like I said before, I check the site often, and if I ever see a working repro upper-housing, I'll jump for joy and eat my words.

Good luck with the many projects.
 
Hey Peepers, thanks... my skin is way too thick to let this roasting stop me. :) Moles and trolls!! LOL

I've brought in help, so I know my usual bottleneck will subside soon enough.

Aside from that, nothing else to see here. Move along.

Dave
 
Thanks guys. I really don't think I'm the horrible person a few guys would like to think I am. I've got a lot on my plate over here and arcade games come dead last when compared to work and family. Sure, I've had my problems and I've discussed it, answered to it, apologized for it and even made up for it. At least, so I thought.

Some of you seem to hate me, plain and simple. I get that. Why you have to spew it every chance you get I really don't understand. And I know that you do. Emails, phonecalls - it all comes back to me. Too funny.

Darin, even though you constantly badmouth me whenever you can, I still refer people to you constantly. I still keep the link to your site on my main index page. Love is one-way in this case, I guess. Dude, I just want the hate to stop.

Can't we all just get along? LOL

Watch for my upcoming releases, everyone. Enjoy!!

Dave

Dave, I dont frequent the groups like you and while I give plenty of stuff away for free and have for many many years, I dont' do it to try to look good to newbies.

I came and posted here because I was asked to by 3 people who were burned by you but know if they say something whatever loyal followers you have will quickly dismiss them. Heck even Im being dismissed! How can you explain your bad dealings in the thread I read on Vectorlist with Brasington, Gregory, Archer, Capps? These guys have been around far longer than you.

I actually hope you succeed as Id like to get a SW for $2500. But your track record isnt too good and newbies (1-3 years) should be aware of it before handing over money. I never said Adams is a dick or an asshole. I leave that to others. Im simply saying youre a bad business person with lots of shaky, incompleted dealings with many people. How can you claim to have films for the upright when Scott says he has them? Where are pics of your progress? You've been selling me on the idea of new games since 2006 and saying theyre just about to come out. Its now 2010.
 
Hey Jeff,

Don't worry about me. And I apologize now for any misdirected heat. I've been working really REALLY hard to improve my ship times and, in turn, my image. I just cringe every time I see those old posts crop up yet again. Argh!!! No hard feelings here, though. I like you and your website. You're an asset to the community!! :) All I want to do is make excellent parts, help everyone out, make some friends and be a productive member of the community. I don't think that's too much to shoot for. LOL

Dave


I hoped my post would come across as a balanced explanation for the lack of links we've discussed in the past. It's brought up to me every so often by others. For the record I did attempt to acknowledge the many recent parts you've made and point out that delays are often circumstantial.

I would never suggest pulling the plug on anything. Like I said before, I check the site often, and if I ever see a working repro upper-housing, I'll jump for joy and eat my words.

Good luck with the many projects.
 
I'm happy with the small pieces I have bought.

I realize that nobody is most likely going to get rich selling reproduced parts to such a small collecting community.

I hope all of the deals from the past can be straightened out fairly.

K
 
Dave is a good person. I had a little trouble with him shipping but he made it up to me far and beyond with his generosity of parts (little mix-up with shipping confusion on his end). I know that nobody is perfect but I wouldn't hesitate to deal with RAM controls at all for my arcade needs.
Now Dave, I would like to be a free beta tester on your completed SW cockpit. PM me so we can work out the shipping details ;)
 
Darin,

I'm not trying to make myself look good, I'm trying to be a GOOD member of the community. I give away stuff all the time that's not even done publicly. And I deal with old school people all the time.

Perhaps it's because you don't frequent the groups, but I have explained myself regarding the situation in 2007 MANY times.

Brasington - He was paid back in full. End of story

Archer - I don't know what he's smoking, but his story is not true. I really think he has me confused with someone else! In fact, I never saw anything at all about this until this last round of lynching came up. Seriously, I have no idea what the hell he's talking about!

Capps - Still working it out. Lingering deal for a long time. He disappeared for a long time and left everyone hanging, myself included. I am in communication with him and we'll work it out.

Gregory - We both hopped in on this deal. we BOTH lost. He wants me to take full hit for it which I'm fine with. We've been talking about a suitable conclusion to this for some time now. Still nowhere with it, though. And it's not for lack of trying. We'll work it out.

And, quite frankly, I've been around far longer than you may realize. That has nothing to do with anything.

I never claimed to have the films. I said the artwork is made from the films. I was specifically speaking of the cockpit artwork. It does not take a genius to figure this one out. :)

Darin, I try to be as cool to you as possible, but you make it difficult for me at times. I refer people to you often and I don't bad mouth you. You might have a problem with my business tactics. Fine. It's a hobby and I treat it as such. Perhaps this is a problem. I get that and I've been trying to work on it, but I can only go so far with it when I have work/family which takes priority in my life.

What I cannot accept is when you badmouth me on phonecalls/emails with people who are common friends between us. That's just NOT cool and I find it highly offensive. Plus, it makes them feel uncomfortable because they're as loyal to me as I am to them. Perhaps you should rethink this trend of yours because every time you do it, they tell me about it. I think there's a real possibility that it's making you look bad. What people see from me in response? "Darin is cool, he just has a problem with me. He makes really awesome artwork, though." Ask anyone. I do NOT badmouth you because I give you that courtesy as a human being who shares the same friends I do.

Why can't you and I agree to disagree and keep to ourselves? I don't bother you, only try to help you by sending paying customers in your direction. I'm not asking you to send anyone my way, just keep your cool and stop antagonizing me and our common friends. There's really no point to it other than what appears to be hatred. I want to be wrong and believe that you don't hate my guts, but you've never shown me any reason to believe otherwise.

Look, I keep making reproduction parts - I've made so many different parts, it's sick. It seems to me that this fact alone should give me some level of acceptance from you, no matter how tiny. Can't we build on that and find a common ground to just get along?

I'd love it. Though, I'm sure it would make KLOV a little less interesting. LOL

Maybe we could agree to take this to PM and drop it...forever?

Peace!!

Dave

Dave, I dont frequent the groups like you and while I give plenty of stuff away for free and have for many many years, I dont' do it to try to look good to newbies.

I came and posted here because I was asked to by 3 people who were burned by you but know if they say something whatever loyal followers you have will quickly dismiss them. Heck even Im being dismissed! How can you explain your bad dealings in the thread I read on Vectorlist with Brasington, Gregory, Archer, Capps? These guys have been around far longer than you.

I actually hope you succeed as Id like to get a SW for $2500. But your track record isnt too good and newbies (1-3 years) should be aware of it before handing over money. I never said Adams is a dick or an asshole. I leave that to others. Im simply saying youre a bad business person with lots of shaky, incompleted dealings with many people. How can you claim to have films for the upright when Scott says he has them? Where are pics of your progress? You've been selling me on the idea of new games since 2006 and saying theyre just about to come out. Its now 2010.
 
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look at the Big Bang Bar pinball project 5 years from deposit to delivery

they did get made!!

Lets not talk about the MM remake LOL
 
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I think I speak for a lot of forum members here when I say "Action talks, Bullshit walks", lets see those cabs at those prices and you will be the most popular person on these forums.. or leave us all dissapointed with some of those saying "told ya so".

So which will it be? I hope to have one of those new SW cabs myself, lets see if it comes true...
 
The BS here on the forums has NOT derailed my intentions. 'nuff said. :)

Just keep your pants on and watch.

Dave

P.S. Those prices listed were pre-sale prices, btw. Damn, it's too bad I had to pull the offer! LOL I *might* still let the first FEW go at that price.


I think I speak for a lot of forum members here when I say "Action talks, Bullshit walks", lets see those cabs at those prices and you will be the most popular person on these forums.. or leave us all dissapointed with some of those saying "told ya so".

So which will it be? I hope to have one of those new SW cabs myself, lets see if it comes true...
 
Thanks for the pep-talk. Much appreciated.

Dave

P.S. Can't wait to see the review!!

Dave, I must say I have done business with you multiple times. I just recieved a huge order last week 4 brand new Star Wars Yokes. One is installed on my Star Wars right now. I had planned on writing a review on these yokes and it will be coming soon, All I can say is they are amazing.

To the people who doubt you really build a cockpit need to see one of these yokes, I have no doubt that he can and will produce a new working cockpit.

As for Darrins comments. Who really cares?? How many posts does he have here. He has just added one more reason I wont buy from Phoniex.
Frizz however is a respected person in this forum, and as I might disagree with him about you, I do respect his opinion.

Dave told me the other day that he has hired a few new people to help with they yokes. This will help you alot Dave!!!

My suggestions for Ram Controls is Blow off the bullshit, let Darrin crawn back under his rock. Keep putting out a top quality product, and work hard very hard on your timelines and customer service.

You are good for this hobbie and your work is appreciated by many!!
 
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