Reproduction SW Uprights and Cockpits?

[yzrider926]

I would be interested to find out more details. Like others have mentioned are the PCB's repro's, pulled from older machines, etc? Is the upgraded kit to include both SW and ESB going to be 2 separate boards or something similar to Mark's SW/ESB kit?

Also a timeframe, I don't want to have that kind of money tied up in something that I won't be able to use for awhile.

Other then that good luck with the project, looks like a lot of work but looks like you are doing it right.

 

[Level42]

I hate it. My SW cockpit with brilliant working 25" Amplifone just dropped in value by 50% !




Just kidding guys, amazing work !!!!!!!!


Oh, and if nobody blows the whistle.......Luc.Flm. already earned 1 million dollar (and this was in 1983, when 1 million dollar meant a bit more than it does now) on the license deal with Atari for this game alone. I think that should cover it.

 

[retroACTIVE]

Hey guys,

You beat me to the punch. LOL

I'll be posting about these soon. So much progress has been made with the parts for the SW cockpit (and upright), it's gonna flip your lids!! Especially with the *ahem* brand new Amplifone vector monitors. Yeah, brand new, bay-bee!

BTW, I pulled in help (2 locals and 1 NorCal guys) to get the yokes assembled and out the door. So, the bottleneck is going to subside in short order.

Watch for my post on the SW machines!

Dave

Totally awesome... but seriously... take it down! Darth Vader is advertising for you!!!

 

[FrizzleFried]

I hate it. My SW cockpit with brilliant working 25" Amplifone just dropped in value by 50% !

You mean it MAY drop in 4-6 years...

 

[SeaWolf]

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oh lookie the duck came out............. QUACK !!!!!!!!!!

You mean it MAY drop in 4-6 years...

 

[havok69]

 

[p1899m]

what about Lucas Arts ?

They stopped phoenix from selling the artwork.

Amazing project. I wish I had the room. Looks like lots of interest from down under

yes Lucas's lawyers are notorious for going after anyone even the little guys. Personally I would keep this under the radar until they are done and ready to ship. Even then I would keep it pretty low key.

Hell if Lucas's people get involved it could get press which in turn could get whoever currently holds the Atari IP involved. Yeah this is a bit of an alarmist attitude but better safe than sorry IMO.

 

[TheShanMan]

Dave told me that there aren't any legal issues which will bite him.

 

[copious]

Dave told me that there aren't any legal issues which will bite him.

And exactly what law school did Dave graduate from?

 

[darinjacobs]

Dave told me that there aren't any legal issues which will bite him.

Unless he has a license, which when I looked into it after my friendly letter from Lucas Films and would cost a min. of $25k for the license and 20% royalty, then he will have licensing problems. Given Lucas's history I dont see how this isn't guaranteed to get stopped in its tracks. But hey, I've been wrong before.

There's a lot of Kool Aid drinking going on here. There was a thread a few weeks ago on Vector List about Dave owing people parts and thousands of dollars. Now he posts his Dell PC went out and he wants someone to give him one? Why doesnt he order one from Dell and he can have it on his doorstep tomorrow? Or pay for rush repair service?

He says he is making the cockpit and the upright artwork from the Atari films when he doesnt have the upright films and wont get them.

I dont see any pictures of the progress being made to put rumors to rest. The price he is listing is crazy low, yet no one questions the validity of that.

Believe me I'd love for it to happen and if it does I may snag one of each. But Im worried people are getting excited for nothing and some may put up money to help the effort and never see it back.

 

[FrizzleFried]

oh lookie the duck came out............. QUACK !!!!!!!!!!

>gulp gulp gulp gulp gulp<

 

[PeRFiDiouS]

'L' is for Lemmings...

Unless he has a license, which when I looked into it after my friendly letter from Lucas Films and would cost a min. of $25k for the license and 20% royalty, then he will have licensing problems. Given Lucas's history I dont see how this isn't guaranteed to get stopped in its tracks. But hey, I've been wrong before.

There's a lot of Kool Aid drinking going on here. There was a thread a few weeks ago on Vector List about Dave owing people parts and thousands of dollars. Now he posts his Dell PC went out and he wants someone to give him one? Why doesnt he order one from Dell and he can have it on his doorstep tomorrow? Or pay for rush repair service?

He says he is making the cockpit and the upright artwork from the Atari films when he doesnt have the upright films and wont get them.

I dont see any pictures of the progress being made to put rumors to rest. The price he is listing is crazy low, yet no one questions the validity of that.

Believe me I'd love for it to happen and if it does I may snag one of each. But Im worried people are getting excited for nothing and some may put up money to help the effort and never see it back.

AMEN Brother!

The scariest part of this is that they have a "order" button on that web page...

 

[TheShanMan]

And exactly what law school did Dave graduate from?

I have no idea how right he is and I know nothing about this kind of legal stuff. Just relaying the message. I'm not going to quote all the details on it he told me. He can always chime in if he wants, or you can talk to him yourself.

I doubt that anyone is drinking kool aid and getting ready to click the "order" button but if anyone can do it, he can. I do agree that he should get rid of those order buttons ASAP. He is only asking for more grief with them.

 

[Deadly]

Without a doubt a Cease and Desist letter will be sent as soon as Lucas catches wind about this. It happened to Phoenixarcade and others. However the comment about not having the films for artwork - you could be dead wrong. How do you think the "latest" repro SW yoke overlays were made? From the original SW films. Who do you think made the artwork for the yokes? Well most of know and there's no reason to name drop in case Lucas Arts does get poopy about it. Of course the art can be made from original films.

 

[hamish_nz]

Best to remove from website and keep it on the down low

He could offer a restoration service send in you old cab for a new one.

 

[darinjacobs]

Without a doubt a Cease and Desist letter will be sent as soon as Lucas catches wind about this. It happened to Phoenixarcade and others. However the comment about not having the films for artwork - you could be dead wrong. How do you think the "latest" repro SW yoke overlays were made? From the original SW films. Who do you think made the artwork for the yokes? Well most of know and there's no reason to name drop in case Lucas Arts does get poopy about it. Of course the art can be made from original films.

Sorry about that, how about this. He doesnt have films for the upright side art and front art and wont get them. I spoke with Scott Evans today about it.

The yoke overlay films are the same for the cockpit and upright.

Many of you on here are relatively new (1-3 years) and need some history from guys that have been around for quite awhile and have been active members of the trading community. Start with this recent thread. Read the first message and scroll to the bottom and click next message and so on til youre done. Youve got some HUGE names that have had bad dealings with Dave.

http://www.vectorlist.org/Vectorlist/2010/05/0024.html

 

[FrizzleFried]

B...b...but he makes parts that no one else does...

Sorry guys. I've been been the squeaky wheel for about 2 years now and have taken a lot of shit for it... and I am sure there are some that will give me shit for this post, but frankly... I don't care...it seems I am in good company after reading that vectorlist link.

 

[PeRFiDiouS]

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[Daviea]

Hey guys,

I swear, it's like high school around here sometimes!

A few people said that some of the other projects I had in the brew would "never see the light of day". I proved them wrong.

I'm saying this project will be completed and I will prove the poo-poo's wrong yet again.

Sour grapes! Sour grapes! I've defended myself against that crap from 2007 on MANY occasions, yet SOME of you still hold onto it for dear life as a reason to hate my very existence and you're happy to tell everyone you can that I'm the worst person on the planet. Damn the fact that I've done SO much for the hobby.

I'm not in this for a profit, I'm in it to enjoy the hobby. I dump SO much of my personal $$ into this, it's just silly! Quite frankly, some of you are real turds and sometimes make me second guess why I bother.

And what does me needing a new computer to tide me over got to do with anything at all, Darin? Dude, you NEED to chill out and get a hold on your hate button.

Believe what you will. I'll still work on my projects and complete them with or without your backing.

The offer is OFF the table. Wait and see what the future holds in store.

Dave

 

[JeffC]

This is a really interesting discussion. As some know, I run a 720 site in hopes of offering a consolidated source of 720 related info on the web. I'm often asked why I don't link, or have stories about the Ram Controls 720 work.

It's undeniable that Dave has done some amazing work on 720 and other arcade parts, and that some of these parts have been delivered to happy users. But its also undeniable that some very long-time, respected members of the arcade collecting community have had deals gone bad:
http://www.vectorlist.org/Vectorlist/2008/01/0015.html
http://www.vectorlist.org/Vectorlist/2008/01/0022.html

Certainly things come up, life gets in the way, and projects get delayed, and we all understand that new items for our hobby take time and patience. In the case of Ram Controls, there's just so much out there on rgvac and byoac about long delays, that I've had a tough time justifying an official recommendation/link.
I've thought about recommending people request CoD situation with Ram Controls, but have stopped short of adding the links.

Not to say a recommendation on my site counts for jack-squat, but I've been sent the links from site visitors, and often asked why I don't Ram Control linked. I actually discussed it briefly with Dave directly at one point.

In the end, it's tough to know what to do. I read each of Dave's posts, and visit the site often. I continue to hold out hope that a full working 720 controller will be available.

...an entire, re-built from scratch, Star Wars arcade game? I've been wrong before, but this just seems impossible.

SKATE OR DIE!!!