Red Baron

If you search the for sale section, asking prices for nice working ones in the last few years range from around $2000 to $3000 (3k being mint restored).
Some anomalies were around $1200.
If someone doesn't want to make the effort to fix a game they have to understand the buyer is entitled to take the worst case scenario into account. Not sure what it is for this game, but my guess is that if you can't do board work, that's $800 by the time all the parts are shipped fixed and returned? Time and risk isn't free either so non working IMO should be around $1000 less than working. Hey, maybe you fix it for 100 bucks, but maybe the tube is ruined and it never works again, so...
 
If you search the for sale section, asking prices for nice working ones in the last few years range from around $2000 to $3000 (3k being mint restored).
Some anomalies were around $1200.
If someone doesn't want to make the effort to fix a game they have to understand the buyer is entitled to take the worst case scenario into account. Not sure what it is for this game, but my guess is that if you can't do board work, that's $800 by the time all the parts are shipped fixed and returned? Time and risk isn't free either so non working IMO should be around $1000 less than working. Hey, maybe you fix it for 100 bucks, but maybe the tube is ruined and it never works again, so...
"Entitled" is the wrong word. Buyer would be *wise* to take worst case scenario into account when coming up with an offer price. That we can agree on.
 
"Entitled" is the wrong word. Buyer would be *wise* to take worst case scenario into account when coming up with an offer price. That we can agree on.
We all know how this will play out.

It is what it is.
 
And I bet none of them are pulling out cash for this "good deal".

exactly. which is what one might tactfully bring up to the seller. old school negotiation conversation that sometimes goes like this:

seller: they're telling me it's worth more.
me: then why didn't "they" buy it from you?
seller: good point. what will you give me, again?
 
I don't think that will work with this guy. He runs a small arcade repair and sale shop. Told me he has sold over 3400 games in the 34 years he has been in business . Knows everything and has seen everything and every kind of game over the years. You can't tell him any different . I politely showed him the the 2 price guide figures and the history of the last ones that sold here on Klov he was not having any of it. His response was I know what I have and what its worth. Then added people? told him he was too low on price.
 
I don't think that will work with this guy. He runs a small arcade repair and sale shop. Told me he has sold over 3400 games in the 34 years he has been in business . Knows everything and has seen everything and every kind of game over the years. You can't tell him any different . I politely showed him the the 2 price guide figures and the history of the last ones that sold here on Klov he was not having any of it. His response was I know what I have and what its worth. Then added people? told him he was too low on price.
I've run into those before.

I've learned to walk away. I guy had a Robotron Cocktail game - I wanted an upright, but I thought why not a cocktail. It was local, good condition.

He wanted a lot more (cocktails generally draw less) than I was willing, so I bid in at what I was willing to pay.

He came back at full price. I said "Okay, good luck with your sale."

Then Izzys bar announced it was closing, and I found an upright for $1800 - and grabbed it.

A few weeks later, I got a message asking if I was still interested. "Nope, picked up an upright, thanks for asking, good luck with your sale."

Logic and facts don't matter. "He knows what he knows." Good on him.
 
I don't think that will work with this guy. He runs a small arcade repair and sale shop. Told me he has sold over 3400 games in the 34 years he has been in business.

oh. yup, probably wouldn't have worked at all. those types are usually (but not always) a lost cause on an overpriced game.

I politely showed him the the 2 price guide figures and the history of the last ones that sold here on Klov

that being said, 2 things i never do when negotiating on game prices outside this forum (mileage may vary):

1. cite the price guides
2. mention klov

quitw a few people have visceral reactions to those. 😅
 
I've run into those before.

I've learned to walk away. I guy had a Robotron Cocktail game - I wanted an upright, but I thought why not a cocktail. It was local, good condition.

He wanted a lot more (cocktails generally draw less) than I was willing, so I bid in at what I was willing to pay.

He came back at full price. I said "Okay, good luck with your sale."

Then Izzys bar announced it was closing, and I found an upright for $1800 - and grabbed it.

A few weeks later, I got a message asking if I was still interested. "Nope, picked up an upright, thanks for asking, good luck with your sale."

Logic and facts don't matter. "He knows what he knows." Good on him.
Is this cocktail possibly still available ? Robo tron cocktail is on my short list and how I grew up playing it .
 
I don't know. It was in eBay around 2020 during the pandemic. See if it's still there.
 
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