...and the management should consider banning your ass and removing your email address/website address from your posts because I can see no "good" reason to promote a business that is owned and operated by liars and thieves.
 
...and the management should consider banning your ass and removing your email address/website address from your posts because i can see no "good" reason to promote a business that is owned and operated by liars and thieves.

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...and the management should consider banning your ass and removing your email address/website address from your posts because I can see no "good" reason to promote a business that is owned and operated by liars and thieves.

Rep for you good sir! This shit is outta control why is this guy still free? EDIT: gotta spread it first someone else hit him for me!
 
As for pldoolittle, there was no order placed on the online store and no paypal payment received. In the three weeks of correspondence back and forth between us

You are correct, I never placed an order. Thank you for clearing that up. And thank you for pointing out that while you were "occupied on projects" that you were actually still here on KLOV conducting business via PM's.

Also, thank you for making it clear that any claims of being "too busy" to field questions are BS. I was just hoping I could show that you were still taking questions from numerous people, and only avoiding the ones who weren't sending you money. But you included a bonus and admitted outright that you are specifically avoiding the pointed questions about your associations with known criminals.

As for those here who I told that I placed an order, I apologize. I needed "the order" to be public knowledge so it would open communications channels that wouldn't have opened up otherwise. Short of lying about it, the only option was to place an actual order, which I wasn't about to do. If it's any consolation, the ruse has produced some good information about RAM and it's associates, and that info has been forwarded on to those investigating the matter.

Oh, and for those concerned about the image of the building he's using, here is an updated image:
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Thanks for telling everyone on here that you LIED just to cause more drama.

This absolutely proves my point and I appreciate it. There are people on this forum that will flat out LIE to cause more drama and to cause trouble for me. If pldoolittle will do it, how many more will do so? Oh and pldoolittle what information did you find that justified you lying to everyone on this forum? That I am using the UPS store to receive packages since I am working in IT and am not home all the time. That is a piece of information that I would have given freely and is on the label of every package I send, big secret!!!

Again I ask you, find someone who has actually placed an order that I have not taken care of. You wont find such a person. Everyone who has placed an order since I took over has had their order shipped quickly or a full refund has been offered. So here we still are, we have people who will lie to cause drama, we have people who believe I can do no right, even though my actions have more than spoken for themselves. Yes I used a screen name, something EVERYONE on this forum uses. I would even say that there is a significant number who have done business under their screen names. So basically I am being held to some standard that no one else is being held to.

Jim
 
So basically I am being held to some standard that no one else is being held to.

Jim

No doubt. The standard is MUCH higher for you. Very high indeed. But Ram Controls dug a pretty deep hole. You're gonna have to climb pretty high to get out. I'm not sure you ever will.

I never wish ill on anyone, but if this isn't the definition of a lose/lose situation, I don't know what is.
 
Ram Controls Stock.

A number of people have recommended that I sell the stock to someone who is a neutral party who can properly market this product. At this time I am going to continue running the business and try to keep taking care of those who are owed something. If, however, there is someone who is interested in buying the entire stock I have on hand I am receptive. Send me an email or a PM.

Jim
 
Yes, people with ongoing business associations with known thieves are held to a higher standard.

Now that I've gotten you talking, why don't you explain why you are "helping" (your words) and protecting a criminal who has stolen from *many* people here?
 
He won't answer... just like he's refused to answer why he didn't come forward with the ADAM JUDD name from the get go. That in-of-itself speaks volumes as to the character of the person we're dealing with here.
 
Ok, you want all the info, here it is..

I was taken by Adam Judd just like many others. We went to High School together and I have known him since 1985. When you know someone for that long you tend to ignore the bad things that others say about that person. Up until recently it was just a bunch of talk. People were talking a bunch of crap about him and without any proof it was just talk.

Over the years I knew him, Adam brought me into a number of business 'ventures' a few of which made money but most did not. He began to owe me money that I had given him for these supposed ventures, money that was provided for some reason or another to further the venture. In hindsight I was not demanding enough for documentation and I realize now he was just taking money from me to support his lifestyle. He then was having problems financially and often had problems paying his cell phone bill. By that time he owed me a lot of money, so I loaned him one of my cell phones so that I could get a hold of him as needed. That is why he had the number that came up with my name.

Back in 2006 I loaned him money to grow Ram Controls which is why I have the connection to the name. I saw the potential and thought it was a good investment. I filed a DBA under the name Ram Controls so I could pay the costs from a business account. Soon afterwards I became occupied in other ventures unrelated to Adam Judd and left him to run Ram Controls and closed my related accounts and for about four years had no connection to Ram Controls. During that time I was not involved in the business operations, nor did I receive any funds from customers, nor did I have anything to do with the shipping of orders.

What I did not know was how poorly he was running the business during the time I was not involved. I was not aware that he was taking in money for product but never delivering it. Everything began to fall apart late last year and in March of this year he lost his house and in an effort to save the business and make something back from all that Adam owed me I took over the stock of Ram Controls and contracted him to help me in the transition and develop new products. I absolutely depended on his help to take over this business so I tried to ignore all the accusations and keep things going forward. Because I depended on him for the transition I made the decision not to wade into the Adam Judd / David Adams issue as I felt it would just cause more problems than it would help. In hindsight it was a poor decision.

I did not realize the level of problems that were going on until I took over this business. I took over Ram Controls in March and I started to see the level of problems that he had caused. I saw the poor business practices, the deceit, and the lies. But even then I did not have the 'smoking gun'. I received that smoking gun in the conversations with Cara, who is pursuing a lawsuit against Adam Judd. I finally had proof that I had given Adam money for a supposed business venture that actually was used to pay his living expenses. This information only came to me about 6 weeks ago and that's when everything started to change. I am now willing to listen to Adam's critics and am trying to figure out what action to take.

All in all Adam has taken me and my family for about $59K from a number of failed business ventures and I am trying to do anything I can to recoup some of that money. I took on Ram Controls because it was hard assets that I could sell and make something back. In hindsight I never should have made this deal and I wish I could undo it but at this point I am trying to get whatever I can.
 
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What I did not know was how poorly he was running the business during the time I was not involved. I was not aware that he was taking in money for product but never delivering it....

I took over Ram Controls in March and I started to see the level of problems that he had caused. I saw the poor business practices, the deceit, and the lies. But even then I did not have the 'smoking gun'. I received that smoking gun in the conversations with Cara, who is pursuing a lawsuit against Adam Judd. I finally had proof that I had given Adam money for a supposed business venture that actually was used to pay his living expenses. This information only came to me about 6 weeks ago and that's when everything started to change. I am now willing to listen to Adam's critics and am trying to figure out what action to take..

I believe you when you say that knowing and doing business with him has been detrimental to you and your family.

That said, it wasn't that he wasn't running his business poorly. It was that he was running a scam. Running a business poorly doesn't include lying about whole game machines being made and shipped when no such thing occured (it's cute he accused you of losing them), nor continuing to prey on the public as his personal ATM machine.

You say you didn't see the 'smoking gun'. That concerns. What I'm reading into this is that he could lie and cheat to other people, but as long as he wasn't doing it to you it wasn't a concern.

If you really want to have a legitimate business, you need to depend on this community, not your high school buddy.

And your crediblity is really going to hinge on making good on Ram Controls' problems, and quickly. This conversation shouldn't be still happening in August. This is more than fiscally making good as I understand neither you nor the business may have sufficient resources to do so. Giving people goods other than what they ordered as a way to pay them back isn't satisfying either.

And: I don't think we have heard from you how you are going to help the community hold him accountable. Again, this isn't an issue of him being a particularly poor business man (which just not delivering would do that), it's an issue of being a preying con man.

I'm personally getting tired of waiting for this to happen. I and leaders of other sites serving this community are having to answer questions like why we haven't banned you yet. I'm getting tired of fielding such questions, and won't for much longer.
 
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I believe you when you say that knowing and doing business with him has been detrimental to you and your family.

That said, it wasn't that he wasn't running his business poorly. It was that he was running a scam. Running a business poorly doesn't include lying about whole game machines being made and shipped when no such thing occured (it's cute he accused you of losing them), nor continuing to prey on the public as his personal ATM machine.

You say you didn't see the 'smoking gun'. That concerns. What I'm reading into this is that he could lie and cheat to other people, but as long as he wasn't doing it to you it wasn't a concern.

If you really want to have a legitimate business, you need to depend on this community, not your high school buddy.

And your crediblity is really going to hinge on making good on Ram Controls' problems, and quickly. This conversation shouldn't be still happening in August. This is more than fiscally making good as I understand neither you nor the business may have sufficient resources to do so. Giving people goods other than what they ordered as a way to pay them back isn't satisfying either.

And: I don't think we have heard from you how you are going to help the community hold him accountable. Again, this isn't an issue of him being a particularly poor business man (which just not delivering would do that), it's an issue of being a preying con man.

I'm personally getting tired of waiting for this to happen. I and leaders of other sites serving this community are having to answer questions like why we haven't banned you yet. I'm getting tired of fielding such questions, and won't for much longer.

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I am not sure exactly what to do about making things right with all those Adam scammed. I was doing pretty well when the product was selling and made some sort of compensation to about 25 people who were owed something. I might add that the vast majority of those people were happy that I made some effort to take care of them and were OK with the arrangement that was made.

Adam has by his own actions sabotaged some of that effort. I took money that was coming in to resupply key parts that were desired by this community. Those included the completion of the BattleZone Bellows and making more of the key weldments to complete 50 more Star Wars Yokes. I hired Adam to complete these projects as per our contract and I now believe that he took that money and used it for something else than completing those projects. I have given him an ultimatum about this issue and he is not returning any of my communication. So once again I am sabotaged by the people who are involved. At this point I have reached the "Throw Adam under the bus" mentality and will do whatever I can to help the community get back what is deserved. I am not sure what can do at this point but I will help.

Jim
 
You know...I'd almost feel bad for you if I wasn't already convinced you and Dave/Adam are in bed together... and guess who convinced me of that? You did Jim.
 
Jim,

If you want to make this right then here's what you need to do:

First off... you need to contact Steph and get your 59K added to the list of people that he owes/stole from and you need to talk with the police officer(s) that Steph has talked to.

You also need to help provide contact information such as home address and phone numbers to Steph and to the police officer(s) he is working with.

In addition - give them any other info they need such as fake businesses and/or other people ripped off, etc. It's time to bring Adam to justice.

Until all of that happens you are still in the same boat to the community.

Raymond
 
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