Ram Controls new owner? Anybody seen this now?

Seriously... You bought something from RAM Controls and came forward to "brag about getting it". UnF***ingbelievable!

No shit. I can't believe anyone that knows anything about any of this would still order from him. And not because I think you might lose your money, but because it breaks solidarity with the rest of the community. At least we know what side you are on.
 
Am I about to get laid into by angry former customers? :/

Probably, and you deserve it if you do.

I don't give a damn who runs the company honestly. It concerns me that he has ripped off people in the past, but since I stopped keeping up with the drama I'm not sure that he didn't eventually fulfill his obligations anyways...?
Must not concern you that much. And it would have taken all of a minute to find out he hasn't fulfilled any obligations. All the posts in the feedback section might have been the first clue...


I just wanna build up stock on parts for my games.

Icing on the cake. You didn't even NEED anything, just WANTED to stock up...

What a joke.
 
This is what I think happened...

1) You contacted RAM CONTROLS asking if he was going to make good on his obligations because you needed parts.

2) Dave/Adam/Dan said "yes, we are in the process of filling orders... we'll send you your parts free of charge if you help spread the word"...

Just FYI, many of Dave's parts are out there from such vendors as Video Game Parts @ http://www.videogameparts.com/ ... Steven is a great guy and these parts were purchased "before" all hell broke out! However, I'm sure his stock isn't going to be replenished with RAM CONTROL parts when they are gone.
 
Man.... I am a bit disappointed in you KSPIFF... when I posted my initial response I didn't quite catch the "RECENTLY" part of the email... nor much of the actual original post... just the quoted email... man... that's what I get for skimming.

Dude... really? Man... pfft...
 
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Ugh...

1) You contacted RAM CONTROLS asking if he was going to make good on his obligations because you needed parts.
2) Dave/Adam/Dan said "yes, we are in the process of filling orders... we'll send you your parts free of charge if you help spread the word"...

Me? No, I wouldn't give a rat's ass about free anything.

I risked a few bucks placing an order on his site, put a note on the PP payment that said something to the effect of "if I don't get a tracking number in 2-3 days, I'm filing a claim with PP to freeze the funds", and got my stuff. I haven't bothered reading about his exploits in something like 6 months or a year... actually that whole repro cockpit thing was news to me as of a few days ago (did you guys buy into something that ambitious and unrealistic AFTER the yoke fiasco?).

And then a few days later I get the email in post 1, verbatim. No way would I actually put my rep on the line for him. Besides he was probably waiting for a big money order worth screwing me over on.

Just FYI, many of Dave's parts are out there from such vendors as Video Game Parts @ http://www.videogameparts.com/ ... Steven is a great guy and these parts were purchased "before" all hell broke out! However, I'm sure his stock isn't going to be replenished with RAM CONTROL parts when they are gone.

What is the deal there anyways? Everything on his site that I ended up picking up at Ram is listed as NOS. Is it NOS or repro? (specifically that would be logo stick plungers and pivot balls) If it is repro then I do apologize to Stephen because I'd have rather given him my [continued] business. I've spent well over $1000-1500 with him in the past, including a beautiful set of NOS Assault sticks.

I didn't really look anywhere else after Stephen's site tho to be honest, so I have no idea what these other retailers are you speak of.

Also the main thing I wanted (that was NOT an extra btw) were UGN3503U sensors for rebuilding my hall sticks. Couldn't find those on his site, and didn't have any luck on Google, Mouser, or Digikey.


Wow I should have just lied about buying anything recently and just said the email came out of the blue. What was a $50 gamble to me which paid off has apparently offended some here, and I apologize for that, but I didn't really directly hurt any of you and your money is already gone no matter what I did after the fact. Technically I also lost $100 or so off Ram previously as well (by buying high on a repro yoke, and then ending up with an extra I had to sell low once I got my pre-order and the market was saturated), so, yeah, shame on me.


@Arc: I don't mean to sounds incendiary, but you seem to almost have anger issues revolving around anything you don't like, and seem to be almost psychotic about this hobby. I did something selfish, but aren't you blowing things out of proportion? If you think I'm a dick for this that is okay, but my rep as a trader typically speaks for me in this hobby, and I pour a lot of hard earned money into our most valued resources (probably about $1500-2000 or so on repro artwork and parts alone in the past two months for spare stuff I will likely never use, not to mention several hundo worth of boards from members here, and a couple hundred in parts from Bob Roberts... and if any of the good folks working on Assault CPOs and side art currently asked me I'd front the funds for the whole run without giving it a second thought).

Hell, I think I've even had several perfectly good transactions with you in the past, didn't you buy one of my System 1 kits a while back? :/
 
Man.... I am a bit disappointed in you KSPIFF... when I posted my initial response I didn't quite catch the "RECENTLY" part of the email... nor much of the actual original post... just the quoted email... man... that's what I get for skimming.

Dude... really? Man... pfft...

I'm sorry I don't try to float a #2 poster position in here and don't keep up with who is ripping off who this week. Last I checked David was still in charge and was almost caught up making restitution. I stopped keeping up with that shit when I stopped spending money with him, and all the stickies disappeared from the for sale forum (which until my vacation this past week was the only sub I was reading for the past several months).

Y'know actually fuck it, just keep it coming guys.

Tell me what a piece of shit I am for gambling $50 of my own money on parts from Ram.
Tell me how irresponsible I am for ordering stuff from a guy who has sent me about a dozen packages in the past with only one major snafu.
Or maybe just harass me for not keeping up with Ram's every move and asking the KLOV community at large if it would be "OK" for me to potentially throw my money into a hole.
Hate me for not feeling all that sorry for those who spent outlandish amounts of money pre-ordering unrealistic vaporware products from a supplier who had already proven himself to be unreliable at best.
And loathe me for supporting this horrible person with enough evil profits to get a cup of joe in CA who - whether you acknowledge it or not - actually did provide our hobby with a lot of nice shit before he flaked out.

So come on, guys. I'm sorry as yet, but sorry + douchebags = not sorry anymore. Absolve me.
 
You are missing the point. We as a hobby have to stick together.

For example. Your friend in real life goes to walmart and buys a 2,000 TV At walmart. The TV isnt in stock so he pays and waits a month for it to come. The store never stocks it and wont refund his money. Would you go to that walmart and spend 50$? If the answer is yes go sit in traffic, if no then we are getting somewhere.
 
How many people are still owed $2500 for full payment on completed star wars machines?

Answer: was it 7? 7 who came forward anyway.

One of them people lives 10 minutes from me and is still owed $3250, because he had to pay freight to a depot to get the cockpit to Australia

He was told "finished ready to go", and "these things are beautiful man"

and "I need your final payment and it's on it's way"

This guy (Dave) belongs in prison, then he will be rammed
 
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I'm sorry I don't try to float a #2 poster position in here and don't keep up with who is ripping off who this week. Last I checked David was still in charge and was almost caught up making restitution. I stopped keeping up with that shit when I stopped spending money with him, and all the stickies disappeared from the for sale forum (which until my vacation this past week was the only sub I was reading for the past several months).

Y'know actually fuck it, just keep it coming guys.

Tell me what a piece of shit I am for gambling $50 of my own money on parts from Ram.
Tell me how irresponsible I am for ordering stuff from a guy who has sent me about a dozen packages in the past with only one major snafu.
Or maybe just harass me for not keeping up with Ram's every move and asking the KLOV community at large if it would be "OK" for me to potentially throw my money into a hole.
Hate me for not feeling all that sorry for those who spent outlandish amounts of money pre-ordering unrealistic vaporware products from a supplier who had already proven himself to be unreliable at best.
And loathe me for supporting this horrible person with enough evil profits to get a cup of joe in CA who - whether you acknowledge it or not - actually did provide our hobby with a lot of nice shit before he flaked out.

So come on, guys. I'm sorry as yet, but sorry + douchebags = not sorry anymore. Absolve me.

I merely said I was disappointed in you... but it seems like you still "don't get it". This isn't about your money... or your potential risk...
 
@Arc: I don't mean to sounds incendiary, but you seem to almost have anger issues revolving around anything you don't like, and seem to be almost psychotic about this hobby. I did something selfish, but aren't you blowing things out of proportion? If you think I'm a dick for this that is okay, but my rep as a trader typically speaks for me in this hobby, and I pour a lot of hard earned money into our most valued resources (probably about $1500-2000 or so on repro artwork and parts alone in the past two months for spare stuff I will likely never use, not to mention several hundo worth of boards from members here, and a couple hundred in parts from Bob Roberts... and if any of the good folks working on Assault CPOs and side art currently asked me I'd front the funds for the whole run without giving it a second thought).

Hell, I think I've even had several perfectly good transactions with you in the past, didn't you buy one of my System 1 kits a while back? :/

I didn't say anything about it that was much different than what the rest are saying. I just think we need solidarity against the people that have ripped off others in the community and you bought stuff just to "stock up". Its a slap in the face to the people that are victims of Ram controls.

We may have had some deals, I don't remember, but it wasn't a system 1 kit.
 
I wasn't going to bother mentioning anything regarding ram since I eventually worked out something with another member that owed ram but your statemts here are ridiculous, and yes you should not have bothered mentioning the pathetic email.

I see, we're all fucked in the head for not supporting a compulsive liar and criminal but you're alright for supporting a liar and a criminal. Makes total sense to me.

So what products are vapor and what products are real and ship? How does Joe Shmoe figure that out? Members of various arcade forums are not the only victims of the ram effect.

Even though after a ridiculous amount of time, effort, and threats of legal action to finally get what was rightfully mine to begin with I will never deal with so called company. I don't care what they sell they are done in my book. It pisses me off just thinking about it.



You know what? Fuck this shit. You guys are fucked in the head. Think whatever you want. :(
 
Ugh...




What is the deal there anyways? Everything on his site that I ended up picking up at Ram is listed as NOS. Is it NOS or repro? (specifically that would be logo stick plungers and pivot balls) If it is repro then I do apologize to Stephen because I'd have rather given him my [continued] business. I've spent well over $1000-1500 with him in the past, including a beautiful set of NOS Assault sticks.

If my parts are listed as NOS then they are genuine NOS from the respective game mfg.
Any repro item is listed and sold as such.

I've had dozens and dozens of NOS plungers and pivot balls in stock long before any reproductions were made. In fact, Dave used my NOS samples to make his repros.
 
You know what? Fuck this shit. You guys are fucked in the head. Think whatever you want. :(

Again... you still don't "get it"... and instead of listening to the community... and thinking on it... and "trying" to understand our point of view... you bust out with "you guys are fucked in the head".

...I am sad.
 
Im here to report Dave Adam is alive, well, and still ripping people off.
and unfortunatly its with people who dont frequent the forums or still wish to keep it out of public forum. :(
FACT

But I did recently identify a voice recording that I hope will be used in court against him
and I for the life of me cannot figure out why the site is still up with sooo many victims.
 
Yeah, I don't understand this at all. Maybe "Anonymous" needs to be informed. :eek:

It totally amazes me that the site is still actively taking orders if that's the case. I haven't been keeping up on this stuff or even checked up on the site since I'm completely done with them.

I for the life of me cannot figure out why the site is still up with sooo many victims.
 
Seriously... You bought something from RAM Controls and came forward to "brag about getting it". UnF***ingbelievable!

Agreed, it takes some balls to come in and post about getting stuff when so many were screwed.

(don't think I'm supporting the guy or anything btw, I just spent a couple hundos to get enough small stick parts and Nyogel to keep my games running until I die)

If you send him money and buy parts you are supporting him.
 
Kspiff does expose one major issue on KLOV and that's the fact that there should be a WARNING sticky should be posted on every forum section at the top. Its crazy that a problem of this magnitude is not broadcasted everywhere on here.

You know what? Fuck this shit. You guys are fucked in the head. Think whatever you want. :(

Now you don't need to go there... you have to understand what the others on here are thinking and their reasons for being upset. I understand you aren't monitoring the forums every day but I can tell you Ram Controls has been on my blacklist for at least a year now and I read the forums enough that I haven't seen one single post praising RAM Controls for a long, long time.

I'm sure there are others here that are buying stuff from Ram still and not posting. If they knew what was going on then shame on them, RAM shouldn't be getting any business from anyone here. We come closer to that goal by putting up a sticky everywhere.
 
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