KenLayton
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ASCAP wants $800 per machine per year for GH to be licensed.
R.I.P. Guitar Hero
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I wonder if we'll see a large number of GH machines being sold to collectors? I'd own one if the price was right.
PublicSectorTech
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Wow, that's ridiculous.
Does that apply to all rhythm games or just Guitar Hero? I'm pretty sure DDR/ITG uses at least some copyrighted music./
KenLayton
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Right now it applies to GH. ASCAP has DDR in it's sights now.
I've heard some operators sold their GH games to Mexico rather than pay $800 a year per machine to the ASCAP goons. In Mexico, they don't have ASCAP.
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Played GH1... great!
Played GH2... great!
Went to Rock band... awesome!
Still play Rock band 2 (w/imported RB1 songs and some downloadable songs) today!
GH3 and later GH = no good to me. Cannot stand throwing crap at the other player to mess them up.
Just my thoughts...
Played GH2... great!
Went to Rock band... awesome!
Still play Rock band 2 (w/imported RB1 songs and some downloadable songs) today!
GH3 and later GH = no good to me. Cannot stand throwing crap at the other player to mess them up.
Just my thoughts...
sosage
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Just curious, how do they enforce this license? How are the jukebox versions of this typically enforced? Randomly checking locations?
thebman80
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Honestly I don't consider much of what Guitar Hero had on there as Metal. I would say all of it was just crap they played on the radio 27/7. If you live in Philly look at the Guitar Hero songs and the stuff on the radio almost 100% match. Since you hear it on the radio its hardly going to be anything that great, just popular mainstream.
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KenLayton
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Yes, the ASCAP mafia does indeed send their goons out all over the country looking for current copyright licenses prominently displayed on said equipment.
Lindsey
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FWIW I had no timing issues with my games and I finished both 1&2 on expert. That would be pretty much impossible with timing issues. Actually... a friend of mine finished part 2 with major lag but she's a ninja.
They changed something in the control sensing (quick strike of the strum bar would register as 2 strikes) that made my technique unusable after part 2 so I stopped playing.
They changed something in the control sensing (quick strike of the strum bar would register as 2 strikes) that made my technique unusable after part 2 so I stopped playing.
Brick Top
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I stopped playing after 2 as well. I was a big fan for a bit. Even bought a PS2 just so I could play those games.
Bought #3 for the Wii and that killed it for me. More controls to buy and the game was lame.
I will be another one of those musician guys who say being good has nothing to do with playing guitar. My wife never played guitar and she was the best out of a group of a dozen friends or so. She could almost always 100% medium songs on one condition. Mute the sound.
Bought #3 for the Wii and that killed it for me. More controls to buy and the game was lame.
I will be another one of those musician guys who say being good has nothing to do with playing guitar. My wife never played guitar and she was the best out of a group of a dozen friends or so. She could almost always 100% medium songs on one condition. Mute the sound.
cbass
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BUMP
thank god this happen, hated guitar hero...
at the arcade when i was playing some MERCS i over heard some kids saying "WTF is this? they copied Guitar hero!" Guitar Freaks copied Guitar Hero, yea they sure did but wait Guitar hero currently has like what 6-7 different Guitar Hero games? (dont know and dont give a F**k) while Guitar Freaks has like 18? and been alive way before you were probably born you stupid kid! im not saying Guitar Freaks is better, i just hated that almost everyone said that Guitar Freaks COPIED guitar hero....
thank god this happen, hated guitar hero...
at the arcade when i was playing some MERCS i over heard some kids saying "WTF is this? they copied Guitar hero!" Guitar Freaks copied Guitar Hero, yea they sure did but wait Guitar hero currently has like what 6-7 different Guitar Hero games? (dont know and dont give a F**k) while Guitar Freaks has like 18? and been alive way before you were probably born you stupid kid! im not saying Guitar Freaks is better, i just hated that almost everyone said that Guitar Freaks COPIED guitar hero....
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Most games are derivative.
Bejeweled copied Yoshi's Cookie but who cares right?
Bemani games copy Parappa.
DDR is derivative of a little known NES Powerpad game in Japan called Dance Aerobics (1987). I bet you didn't know this one...
You don't need to be a Bemani fanboy too much... even they copied... Their arrow interface is a flipped version of Parappa albet improved.
Even Dance Aerobics has a different section with markers and a timing bar that moves from left to right vs markers that scroll to a timing bar.
Isn't that Derivative?
GF was horribly broken - mapped to non guitar parts. JRock... the list goes on.
GH is a blend of GF + Amplitude and in the Karaoke Rev engine for PS2. We did lots of stuff like added buttons so that you could simulate power chords, move your hand up and down and the Whammy bar.
I don't need to defend it... we fixed what Konami couldn't get right and didn't have the courage to launch into the US. Activision bought us, I left and they drove it into the ground.
Go play Rock Band... end of story.
C-bass I like you but you don't need to hate on GH... it was my baby and they drove it into the ground.
It's already dead and we already talked about it when you were in my garage.
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sosage
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...just wanna opinion toss by saying Amplitude (and to a slightly lesser extent its prequel Frequency) is a bad ass game by its own right.
+1. I don't think there is anything in video games that is not built off an earlier idea by someone else. What matters is who takes those ideas and has the eye for creative design/editing to tweak them into something great.
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Also... Konami made Yie Ar Kung Fu -> SF -> SF2...
cbass
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quote "im not saying Guitar Freaks is better, i just hated that almost everyone said that Guitar Freaks COPIED guitar hero...."
im not hating on GH, i just hate that little kids say stupid shit about all this imported music games that konami was so stupid not to release in the US, they brought the location test for GF, DM, IIDX and they decided to cancel its release...also GH lacked the timing judgment of perfect, great, poor n such that all of the bemani games have, thats what made ppl say, i want to go back and PFC that song or i got too many greats, i need to get more perfects, thats why i did not even try GH, never played it and never will.
ohh btw i did know about that NES dance game, and i played it once...weird and funny
well if you look at it this way, they created the guitar, drum, keyboard, dj (sorta i guess) simulation so its kinda there stuff
everyone has opinions and different likes i guess
im not hating on GH, i just hate that little kids say stupid shit about all this imported music games that konami was so stupid not to release in the US, they brought the location test for GF, DM, IIDX and they decided to cancel its release...also GH lacked the timing judgment of perfect, great, poor n such that all of the bemani games have, thats what made ppl say, i want to go back and PFC that song or i got too many greats, i need to get more perfects, thats why i did not even try GH, never played it and never will.
ohh btw i did know about that NES dance game, and i played it once...weird and funny
well if you look at it this way, they created the guitar, drum, keyboard, dj (sorta i guess) simulation so its kinda there stuff
everyone has opinions and different likes i guess
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??? it seemed like you hated two aspects... GH and the fact that people credited it as a 1st Guitar game.
I never hid that fact in my interviews. I say that GF predates GH clearly. Konami made huge strides in furthering music games but they weren't the first there.
Cracking DJ I thought was where DJ should have gone but it never took off.
Beatmania wasn't a DJ game at all... the turn table was a button.
cbass
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lol ok maybe i did say i hate it but whatever....its my opinion.
crackin DJ is a cool game but Beatmania III used the turntable alot, they had the free scratch zone/360 turn and the bgm did not carry the sfx, it created it by pressing the keys at the right timing...
lol we can be here all night talking about the pros and cons about music games but i rather not...we each have our likes and dislikes....
crackin DJ is a cool game but Beatmania III used the turntable alot, they had the free scratch zone/360 turn and the bgm did not carry the sfx, it created it by pressing the keys at the right timing...
lol we can be here all night talking about the pros and cons about music games but i rather not...we each have our likes and dislikes....
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PublicSectorTech
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Mildly off topic but I pre-ordered the Rock Band 3 Squire Strat and the midi pro adapter and I don't think I'll ever see either one. Mad Catz (as is typical) totally underproduced their peripherals. Midipro adapters are showing up on amazon for $120. Reminds me of the whole Street Fighter IV arcade stick fiasco.
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I just want to chime in late and say that GH going away makes me sad.
I love music... and I love games. Rock band is great, but for some reason, I find Guitar Hero a more enjoyable experience.
GH2 is one of my favorites... but I've enjoyed all of the GH releases... Even GH Aerosmith... sort of.
I love music... and I love games. Rock band is great, but for some reason, I find Guitar Hero a more enjoyable experience.
GH2 is one of my favorites... but I've enjoyed all of the GH releases... Even GH Aerosmith... sort of.
