quick 60-in-1 icade question

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the last two 60-in-1's I built I used two joysticks and two sets of 3 buttons each. But now I am wondering, dont all the games on there not allow two players to play at the same time ? So using two joysticks is just wasted supplies ?? I want to build a machine with one joystick, one trackball, and either one or two sets of 3 buttons..But I want it to be a two player machine..is this possible ?
 
I think 1943 is the only 2 player at a time game. Its never made sense to me to make a multi with two sets of controls. And alot of the time, i wont even run three buttons. There is really only one game which uses three.
 
Unless the person you're building the multicade for plans to swap out random JAMMA pcbs, I don't see a need for a 2nd joystick either.
 
I'm doing one right now, and i'm going with 3 buttons on the left, one joystick kinda in the middle and a trackball on the right. Also putting the 1 and 2 player buttons on the far left side because that is where they were on the custom made CPO I got...if not i'd put them to the far right.
 
if I had a cp with 2 joysticks, I would wire them both for player 1 and have 1 a 4 way and 1 an 8 way.
 
Thanks guys, looks like I will be using 1 joystick, 1 trackball, and three buttons. I wonder with 1943 if one player can use the joystick, and the other use the trackball.
 
2 joysticks are obviously needed for cocktails - duh.

In an upright machine, the only games that need 2 joysticks for 2-player simultaneous play are 1942, 1943, and 1943 Kai. All other games alternating, meaning you use the same joystick and buttons on a single joystick control panel. If you set it up with 2 joysticks and 2 sets of buttons, then on a game of Galaga (for example) the first player would use the left set of controls and the 2nd player would use the right set of controls.

Also, there is a setting in Gunsmoke to change it to 1-button play, so you don't have to use 3 buttons if you don't want to. Your character will shoot in whichever direction you are moving. It sucks that way, but it possible.

Also, a trackball is NOT necessary, as you can play the games with the joystick. It's not as good, but can be done.

If you are making these game to sell, then the 3rd button, 2nd joystick (and buttons), and trackball are expenses that aren't completely necessary unless requested by the buyer...
 
No, that wont work. 1943 can still be played but 1P only. The only game that uses 3 buttons is breakout, and the third button is only used to select the third level. Gunsmoke has an option to use a single fire button IIRC.
 
No, that wont work. 1943 can still be played but 1P only. The only game that uses 3 buttons is breakout, and the third button is only used to select the third level. Gunsmoke has an option to use a single fire button IIRC.

all of the 2-player simultaneous games CAN be played single player only if you wish, but he asked about using 2 joysticks for 2-player games, and I listed the ones that need it.

Forgot about Breakout needing the 3rd button, but it doesn't need it that bad because most people don't even know about it. The cab itself didn't come with 3 buttons, unless you count the start buttons and launch button as 3.

And I mentioned the Gunsmoke option, even though it makes the gameplay sucky...
 
Thanks guys, looks like I will be using 1 joystick, 1 trackball, and three buttons. I wonder with 1943 if one player can use the joystick, and the other use the trackball.

no...even if you could, it wouldn't work because you only have one set of three buttons to fire with.
 
Was thinking about ordering a 2 1/4 Happ trackball for my icade 60 in 1.
I've read that trackballs wont work correctly for certain versions of the icade.
Is this true?
 
If I remember correctly, the earliest icades (39-in-1 and 48-in-1) did not allow trackballs. All the 60-in-1s I've seen do. I think the main difference between some of the versions vary on how they hook up. The nice ones will include a little row of pins to attach a thin molex seperately for a trackball.
 
Thank you. I think mine has those.
Ordered the 2 1/4 bit, and can't wait to play Centipede as it was intended!

the pin thing is handy because it saves you alot of time, but when in doubt you can still wire up your trackball with the Player two wires. There is a setting in the menu to tell it one control/ one trackball.
 
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